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Replying to CrystalCandy Jan 6, 2020
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
I think emperor and gu don't have mutual trust anymore. That'why gu is prolonging the war because he is afraid…
CP is going to be crushed by the Gus betrayal, he loves them so much. :(
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jan 5, 2020
Well AOL gave me rashes but I loved TMOPB so to me they are very different outside of being broadly xianxia romance…
Last year the regulators threatened a 40 episode limit on c-dramas but as far as I know it wasn't made official. Since then, many new dramas are limiting themselves to about 30-40 episodes but I suspect some of them are going to go for another season. The problem is people don't really pay for c-drama its still mostly advertising based. So they need a lot of episodes to make money. That will change as more people are willing to pay to view. I hate the fillers too, my time is also limited so I am picky about what I watch. Once something has too many fillers I watch it casually on the treadmill only.
I agree L&D wasn't balanced - they wasted too much time on the 2nd arc and there wasn't enough of the good ending parts. The two leads are among my favourite actors and Chang Chen really doesn't make that many dramas at all.
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jan 5, 2020
Well AOL gave me rashes but I loved TMOPB so to me they are very different outside of being broadly xianxia romance…
It is very unfortunate indeed that many good shows in 2019 had way too many fillers and L&D was no exception. Hopefully the threat of episode limitsby the rgulators puts a stop to this nonsense. In any case you should be at the part where its pretty much good to the end. Enjoy!
Replying to 930201_In Jan 5, 2020
The whole drama series was cut/reduce from 72 episodes to 60 episodes. It seems that the plot for General Gu and…
I wonder if that much content was actually lost. They supposedly shot three different endings so a big big chunk of that must be related to that. And this part doesn’t strike me as that controversial that it merits what amounts to a whole arc being cut like that. It shouldn’t be a free pass that is used to excuse all the plot holes that are emerging. If it was really censored at least some explanation of what was cut should be forthcoming.
On Royal Nirvana Jan 5, 2020
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
What was the catalyst for Gu turning against the emperor? Was it because the empress died under suspicious circumstances or simply because the Cp had come of age and would be more malleable? Or is it because the horse scandal undermined the army and indirectly led to the death of his eldest son? It just seems he tolerated him for so many years what made him turn? Or is it defensive as emperor is striking first?
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jan 3, 2020
Title Love and Destiny Spoiler
Well AOL gave me rashes but I loved TMOPB so to me they are very different outside of being broadly xianxia romance…
LOL - I found him really annoying also and I watched while airing which was worse. But she does kick him out and lets Jiu Chen stay instead I just don't remember when - maybe around 40. I have seen many way worse triangles than this one.
Replying to Poohbearies Jan 3, 2020
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
He doesn’t know. Luo Jin has confirmed that in an interview now that the reunion is happening this Thu.
Nah I am down to the last legs of my vacation so I am not really prioritizing watching drama at the moment. But I hope you are right this wife beater CP has a lot of redeeming to do. Which btw I am aghast at the censors - if they let this kind of shit get through I wonder what it is that they actually cut.
Replying to Poohbearies Jan 2, 2020
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
He doesn’t know. Luo Jin has confirmed that in an interview now that the reunion is happening this Thu.
Indeed love is the explanation that always works when nothing else does. It would be less lame if he didn’t beat the crap out of her (again). I want to like CP. but this character is regressing on multiple fronts. Who cares of they keep him alive at the end but assassinate his character along the way?
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jan 2, 2020
Title Love and Destiny Spoiler
Well AOL gave me rashes but I loved TMOPB so to me they are very different outside of being broadly xianxia romance…
LOL so do I but it is not really a love triangle. She is never really that into him. But he is a real pest and he hangs out for about 10 episodes - you can just fast forward a bit. Definitely keep watching if you like the main leads.
Replying to Poohbearies Jan 2, 2020
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
He doesn’t know. Luo Jin has confirmed that in an interview now that the reunion is happening this Thu.
Actually CP's actions to save her from the emperor made no sense whatsoever if he doesn't know her. When she was WX he had clear boundaries on what he was willing to do for her and drew a very clear line at his teacher's reputation. He had priorities and a sense of what is important. Then he squanders all the hard won goodwill he earned with his father after giving up the love of his life to save a lowly maid just because crown princess said to protect her? Beyond royally pissing off the emperor, this decision led to the ousterof his last remaining supporters at court. All to save a lowly servant he didn't even trust. The logic in this show is spiraling downward. I suspended disbelief in that entire episode because I assumed he figured out who she was and even then it didn't make complete sense because he had set limits on what he would do for WX. So this ending makes even less sense not more sense to me.
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Jan 1, 2020
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
Its getting a bit repetitive the mulish stupidity of CP and the abusive frustration of emperor. The writing is…
Wow... I didn't see that one coming. I just felt that uncle Gu was a grownup and fended all too well for himself all these years CP didn't have to go to such extreme measures to save him. How naive of CP. The guy just doesn't learn. Tragic.
Replying to Poohbearies Dec 31, 2019
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
He doesn’t know. Luo Jin has confirmed that in an interview now that the reunion is happening this Thu.
That's quite disappointing. They went with the most crowd pleasing and least interesting way to end the show. This show lost me about 5-10 episodes ago - I only kept watching because I thought there were two really interesting ways to end this but it seems they went with neither.
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 31, 2019
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
Its getting a bit repetitive the mulish stupidity of CP and the abusive frustration of emperor. The writing is…
Indeed but surely he doesn't need to take the scorched earth approach. His actions only serve to reinforce his father's suspicion that his first loyalty is to his uncle and maybe they are colluding. A dangerous and unwise idea to convey. And in any case, his plan doesn't seem to have worked that well. I can understand emperor's ongoing valid criticism of CP - he has a hard time separating personal vs professional. Maybe it is indeed true that the Gu family ought not to have so much military power. If I were the emperor I would not like anyone to have power to usurp the throne. Rebalancing power is a good and rational decision that should not be personal - it should not matter that Gu is his uncle. And CP already assumes his father will do the worst to his uncle and is trying to pre-empt him. Guilty with no opportunity to be proven innocent. There is no trust in this relationship. Emperor hates CP because when he looks at him he sees his own worst traits in the mirror and vice versa. They are so alike it is scary. CP's increasing abusiveness toward WX is yet another manifestation of their similarity.
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 31, 2019
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
was it always platonic? When he was fooling around with WX in his chambers some of the other attendants implied…
Well she tried to kill WX over a man she has no realistic hope with (unless CP did lead her on - which is what I was wondering). WX turned around and had her killed dead instead. Very vicious of her. I am both shocked and a bit impressed at the same time... although I am not sure she knew CP would kill Chen maybe just have her dismissed.
Replying to BTSFT123 Dec 31, 2019
If i didn't like the writing in TMOP and also AOL would i like this? it seems like it has a more mature vibe,…
Well AOL gave me rashes but I loved TMOPB so to me they are very different outside of being broadly xianxia romance dramas. In L&D there is definitely some history to establish the backstory of the main characters - that is unavoidable but most of the story focuses the two leads, especially the FL. There is a lot more comedy and is quite witty but if I have to find fault it is that the main characters are too good to be true and don't have a dark side. The acting by the leads was really outstanding. I would just check it out. If you don't have super high expectations you may find it quite enjoyable.
On Royal Nirvana Dec 31, 2019
Does anyone else have a problem air-playing the new episodes from Youku? It doesn't work with every latest 4 new episodes but then the previous 4 episodes will be fine. I can't figure out how to fix it and its driving me nuts.
Replying to CrystalCandy Dec 31, 2019
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
Today's espisodes made me feel very bad. Cp gets beaten by his father again, worse than previous one. I just hope…
Its getting a bit repetitive the mulish stupidity of CP and the abusive frustration of emperor. The writing is also deteriorating and CP's latest provocation of his father seems unnecessary and doesn't make that much sense. I realize they may have cut scenes but the last 10+ episodes have just gone downhill wrt plot. If there is any hope of salvaging this relationship or ending at this point it better happen very soon. Otherwise short of the emperor dying suddenly of a stroke or being struck by lightning (which would still be lamely satisfying) there is no saving the ending.
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 31, 2019
was it always platonic? When he was fooling around with WX in his chambers some of the other attendants implied…
So she was just bat shit crazy and had no hope of ever being made a concubine...I guess just another slightly unhinged character in this show... Feels like a mental ward rather than an ancient royal palace.
Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Dec 30, 2019
Title Royal Nirvana Spoiler
I wonder re: CP relationship with Chen neiren:
was it always platonic? When he was fooling around with WX in his chambers some of the other attendants implied his relationship with Chen neiren had been similar.