Pinklotus12

Les gens qui supportent deux idées différentes ou parallèles ne font jamais du sens.

I just realised your comments have double standards. You said " how is embracing and learning other cultures wrong?" And then you said " you want to censor fashion and individual expression? " waaaw. Then you go " how is shouting, tatooing is related to some culture?" And then you said " they adapted things from another culture" Then asked if it's not African-American, then what culture was that, then you diverted me by saying it's fashion and individual expression and asked who said it was some culture. Rastafarian was a question not an affirmation. you didn't say all all rappers should look like Alex but why is it a rapper from America? You explained how it wasn't CA by bringing unnecessary history lessons . Why the need to explain? You should have simply said freedom of fashion and expression in the first place. You really found it cool as you are calling it fashion. hahahaha oohh my God. Anyways I have been reading your comments and you have been attacking people who don't agree with you as UNEDUCATED, IGNORANT AND WHO DON'T HAVE DEEP KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE SUBJECT TO COMPEL THEM TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT but that won't work on me. Save your racism definitions. As a person of color I know what racism is by experience not just by words. STAND BY MY INITIAL COMMENT AND YOU CAN'T COMPEL ME TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE. However you are free to disagree. Afterall it's a comment section. I'm done with you since you are two faced. Au revoir.

I think this is beyond discussion. People are insulting each other pointing fingers on who is RACIST, IGNORANT AND UN EDUCATED. The scene doesn't need serious research neither does it require someone who went to school or who knows the subject in depths to understand what was going on

Your whole comment is VAGUE. My point wasn't that that the character did CA. Read my comment properly but HOW HE PORTRAYED A CERTAIN CULTURE. it's like you didn't understand what that scene implied since you found it cool how on Alex was shouting, cursing, adorning tatoos everywhere even in his face. Plus the way he talked, throwing things and asking about his brother's billion dollars . And tell me which DAMN CULTURE did they really portray in this manner without any diginity? Rastafarian you say? I would have known right away if it was Rastafarian. And what FACTS are you reffering to? I don't get you. I stated my own reasons why it was RACIST but you keep on saying there's nothing wrong to embrace another culture. Who said it was wrong to learn and embrace any CULTURE? ?????? THE WAY HE CAME OFF WAS WRONG. It was uncomfortable. PORTRAY A CULTURE PROPERLY. AND WHO TOLD YOU EVERY RAPPER FROM AMERICA SHOULD BE LIKE ALEX???? I WON'T STOP POINTING IT OUT FOR FEAR I WOULD BE LABELLED A RACIST as you are saying now. Keep the FACTS TO YOURSELF and let other people adress how they feel about the matter. YOU SAID WE HAVE A PRE DESCRIBED NOTION ON HOW SOMEONE SHOULD BEHAVE IS RACIST???!!! I think that remark should go to the writer who thought every African American should shout, curse, chain himself and have tatoos everywhere even in his face. I don't need any FACTS as it's solely my opinion and how I felt which isn't wrong to express or to point out.

Despite of everything, I will still continue to watch the show now that Alex or Logan? are still in Penthouse and see what he's plotting with Oh Yoon Hee

Again someone trying to shut people's mouth and say that there was nothing wrong with the character. Whatever people are saying, they are free to say it if it doesn't sit with them. This comment section won't be filled with comments which agree with your point of view sadly. I wonder what you are trying to prove. Are you saying people shouldn't talk about it? Are you forcing people to accept what you think is right? Or Are you saying people shouldn't comment how OFFENSIVE AND RACIST it was here on MDL platform? The way you write your replies imply people should just shut up and enjoy the show even when deep down we know IT'S NOT OKEY.

On n'a absolument pas de temps à comprendre les détails clés de l'histoire avant un autre plot s'introduit

We are not talking about where the style was invented, infact that's off topic but which group of people are popularly known with this style. Of course like you said, some people loved it as aesthetic and others laughed while associating it with the N word. To me it was utter insult and I have reasons why I felt that way. And let me say this, not every rapper adorns himself like Alex. As for you when you saw Alex, you saw a rapper but for me with the exaggeration thuggery, I saw African American thugs. Me pointing out what I felt or what I analysed doesn't label me as someone who is pointing out that All of us Africans are THUGS. The style it's self speaks volumes for those who understood crystal clear what group was depicted. That's why we are offended because we know clearly well that we don't live as Alex or we don't wear Bling Bling for us to be seen that we are African-Americans. Again Each to his opnion. Don't go on rampage pointing fingers and accusing people who don't agree with you. Not everybody saw a rapper in Alex and not everybody will laugh it off and leave it un addressed.

I think you are twisting words here. My comment was clearly written in the simplest words possible. The way this CA was shown is what's problematic. I'm not saying Alex Lee shouldn't adorn himself with whatever he likes but the way he came off is what's problematic . Be honest with me. When Alex first appeared, what was the first image that came in your mind? Was it an italian? Don't say it was Jamaican or something. Many elemnts pointed out clearly what group of people are depicted in the scene , some people only saw dreads but it wasn't just his hairstyle. I bet the first image that came in your mind was an African American THUG. ARE AFRICAN AMERICAN THUGS CONSIDERED PEOPLE WHO ARE ACCEPTED IN SOCIETY POSITIVELY? NO. And to emphasize that they were pointing out a certain group of people, Alex came with BLACK BODY GUARDS. I MEAN BLACK. NO MIXED BLOOD. This shouldn't have been a problem if he came in another African-American style which brings out positive impact. If he did, I would have clapped and be proud but Hey they guy reminded me of LIL WAYNE the moment I laid my eyes on him. I won't talk about how cultures evolved historically as I'm not interested to know how it came to be but I'm pointing what I saw in Alex character. As an African my self who lives in Europe, I know what we black people go through. I don't know why you are finding my comment an insult to my own race but at least that's how I processed Alex and it's the truth. That's why we found it insulting because we know very well no race adapts this style other than us. There's even a video on YouTube where they put Alex aside with some black guy with dreads. Why do you think they put a black guy aside him and not an Asian or an European ??? Anyway, each to his opinion. To some people, it was humorous, to others, it was aesthetic but to me, it was insulting. It's you who is basically insulting people and accusing them just because they don't have the same opinion as you and you just want people to shut their mouths. This MDL comment section doesn't belong to you and everybody like you has every right to comment how they felt about the character either negatively or positively regardless of what they know about this style.

CA should be used in a positive way especially on these medias. It's sensitive. For people who don't know any better would think all black people don't wash their hair and have flies as their company. Any culture or race when portrayed should be used positively to avoid controversies although the writer might have aimed for humour or aesthetics.

Using a certain culture isn't the problem but how the writer uses that culture or how he or she depicts a race of people who own that culture is what is problematic. Alex liking African-American style isn't a problem but the way he portrays it is what is problematic ( Dreads, tatoos, talking loudly,cursing, chaining himself etc) There many African-American styles the writer could have used but an African-American THUG is unpleasant and uncomfortable. For anyone who doesn't know better would think all African Americans are THUGS. The same thing happened in ep 1 of season 2. The guys who broke Ha yoon Chul's hands happened to be black people which didn't sit well with me but in this episode, it's too conspicuous for all to see.

If Alex is Logan lee and Logan gave Yoon Hee acess to his money, then why on earth is he confronting Shim Suryeon about himself and the money which the poor lady doesn't know about? Isn't that harsh?

Okey Penthouse without Logan was like an empty shell to me but Why the HECK did the writter introduce Alex Lee??? And in such a manner??? Like what the fuck did I just watch? Okay. How did Alex Lee who grew up in an Asian strict family adapt such a life style??? The life style of BLACK AMERICAN THUGS. It was disturbing to watch. The character portrays all the traits of Black American Thugs who live off of stealing, murder, robbing banks and the like.Is it RACIST? YES IT IS. Not all black people live like THUGS as it is portrayed here. The idea of bringing up such character in this season isn't brilliant at all. It brings us to question why such a family brought it's self trouble by involving themselves with Min Seol A when they had someone who could have saved Logan Lee's life. Okay the writer wants to keep the spice and the hype we had with Logan but this will come off repeatedly and it's no fun neither does it keep us curious. Now it's certain Logan is alive as Alex Lee.

Exactly. I was like girl don't you feel anything heavy in your pockets?

Another kdrama which tells this very story but in more depth and without the fantasy element is " King Gwanggaetto the great" which is long beacuse all the conquests and wars are shown in great detail.

Didn't the doctor in the hospital tell the cops not to handcuff him because he had to go for examinations? (Before attacking Logan)

I'm watching Penthouse but I think we will get a closure like one we got in Empress Ki where the lead ends up with nobody like bittersweet because we see many men eyeing her. A similar ending like in the last empress. I haven't watched the world of the married but heavy dramas need a nice closure given the ride we go through as viewers

One of the best Sageuks I happened to stumble on by chance and I was surprised how in the world I didn't know about it. My favourite character was Cheok Sa Gwang. I loved her because she kicked asses when she's a lady. She was legendary.

It's been some time since I last came here. I was hoping for new updates but I guess there isn't yet.

Hao Yi Xing is a good name and it matches the context since the original story involves rebirth, revival and reincarnation. So I hope they don't change it.