What the fuck was that ending?!! Why is everyone saying it's happy ending?! HOW?? Spoiler↓
Where is there not a happy ending? The king found his supporter, not in the concubine he brought in with the queen, but in the queen herself. In the end, he does say he feels like something is missing, but it seems they were happy and accomplished a great deal as king and queen. The queen was finally recognized for herself and not because of her family. She fully supported the king. Bong Hwan, after getting the two together got to go home to a hero's welcome. He never wanted to stay in the Joseon era. He just knew he had to change history in order to get home.
In Minglan i was rooting for Feng Shao to get the FL their chemistry was fire🔥 here although the same age difference…
Yes, I felt their characters during the "love" scenes were a little stiff, especially him. He is supposed to deliver a line about how she can undress him anytime and it came out like a lead balloon.
niao niao's mom mistakes her daughter for a soldier jesus... also, her vowing to take care of yang yang as if…
Mom does not mistake her daughter for a soldier. If she had, NN would have been beaten way more than she was. Her mom only hit her once with a ruler and then paddled her when she collapsed the bridge. Each time the punishment fit the crime. Mom represents the authoritarian style disciplinarian. Her father represents the soft-hearted "let her do whatever she wants" disciplinarian. The aunt and the uncle represent middle ground. The "let's talk it out or put them in time out" disciplinarians. We can all relate to one of those types of styles. We discipline our children differently based on their personality.
Which one did NN finally respond to. Notice after she is struck with the ruler you do not see her eavesdropping again. Once she is paddled, she doesn't pull any more antics that could seriously hurt someone. When she pulls the stunt in the palace, it is only dumping water, dirt, and something else with the sticks as switches or paddles. She is willing to take the punishment and clean up the garden. She learned her lesson that you must take responsibility for your actions.
Mom had a learning curve as well. Not until she fully understood what had happened to her daughter did she understand that taking away food was not an option as a form of discipline. Multiple times she talked with her daughter. Is she a perfect mother, no. What parent is!
I think they are referring to when she is 14 and he is 19 and then again when she is 17 and he is 22. When she…
I just read about it. Nothing that SS does in that show would disrespect the historical timeline. She modified and enhanced things that were already around. If they would have kept that aspect of the novel in there then the lead female character would have relied on a "future" brain to invent things. It would have made her character weak and she only portrays strong female characters.
I think they are referring to when she is 14 and he is 19 and then again when she is 17 and he is 22. When she…
There is a reason for that. Through the dramas I have watched it seems that Chinese parents push their male children to get married when they are between 21-25. Once they are past this age they are considered "too old" for getting married. That's why the male character insists on getting married by 27. They even poke fun at this by the clothes he wears at that time. The writers are challenging this societal belief. As you said, is he really that old? No. For females it is even younger, 19-22. So both are about the age of getting married in Chinese culture. However, legally she can't get married. If the Asian modern dramas are correct, then the couple have to be at least 21 or 22 to get married. The topic of age is very much the focal point of this drama.
I think they are referring to when she is 14 and he is 19 and then again when she is 17 and he is 22. When she…
Why would the government ban the time travel plot for this drama when they allow it in others, many others I might add? No, I think they took it out because Zhao Lu Si would not have played the part if they had kept it in. Zhao Lu Si is known for playing strong female characters who depend upon their own wits to survive or characters who grow into this type of girl. Her characters always question or fight against some societal belief. In Hidden Love her character goes against the societal belief that if the father commits an act of treason or does something else then the whole family must be guilty and take responsibility for it as well. This is the reason for the very loud discussion in the restaurant between ZLS's character and DJX's "girlfriend". Scenes in dramas should have a reason for being there. They should create meaning to the story. It's why I place a great deal of importance on the three scenes I mentioned in my last post.
You're right the world doesn't revolve around me and my opinion of this drama, but I am not the only one saying it. Many people found it enjoyable. The opening sequence caught my attention, but lost its momentum afterwards with the introduction of the goblin bride. As the person below this wrote, the main leads relationship felt forced. It was because there was no reason for the goblin bride to be there except to create a romance for the main character. Why did he need romance? He knew how to love someone. He didn't die because he didn't know how to love. I am sorry if I offended you in some way. I am glad that you enjoyed this along with many other people. I just couldn't because of all the questions I needed to ask about the plot.
Thank you for the discussion. Hope you're having or had a good day.
I think they are referring to when she is 14 and he is 19 and then again when she is 17 and he is 22. When she…
I have watched both Love Like a Galaxy and The Romance of Tiger and Rose. In the novel Love Like a Galaxy the main female character comes from the future and invents all kinds of things. The screenwriters took the liberty and didn't put it in. This aspect of the novel detracted from the message that the writers wanted to convey that women are just as creative and inventive as men. They don't need to rely on a "future" brain. Also, that trope is so overused. The Romance of Tiger and Rose is an illustration of that and for me becomes a very forgettable drama. I am sure there was imagery in it, but I don't remember it. Hidden Love had a few creative scenes with lots of meaning and visual imagery: the light bulb scene, the milk bottle scene, and the flower scene. If there is no meaning to them, why put them in the drama?
I can explain more if you would like, and thank you for the discussion.
I think they are referring to when she is 14 and he is 19 and then again when she is 17 and he is 22. When she…
MikaM, can love for another person be hidden even from that person and not realized until later on? This concept is found in Jewel in the Crown and the Joseon Flower Crew. The story as written appears to her that he does not like her in a romantic way. Romance doesn't have to be about hugging, kissing, or even sex. Romance can be just wanting to be near someone, doing things for them and with them, etc. The most telling scene when she is 17 is when they go to the museum. The brother disappears as he obviously trusts DJX to be alone with his sister. When they make the promise to help each other achieve their goals, the flower starts small and when they complete the promise pact the flower is in full bloom. For me, this symbolizes that they are in love even though one doesn't know he is in love. Their love is growing slowly and will not be complete until the promise has been completed. Hence her words at the end. This drama is aptly named. Even the brother has a hidden love.
The forbidden love only comes in his mind, from the beginning he feels he is too old for her. He keeps expressing her age. Once he realizes he loves her he keeps expressing her age because she is not old enough to get married. She is old enough to have a relationship, but not to be married. Age does play a huge deal in this drama.
Screenwriters when adapting a book to the screen weigh what will "sell" the audience, but they also put their own twist in it. I read somewhere that in Love Like a Galaxy the female lead character is from the future. I am glad they didn't put that in the drama itself as it would have detracted from the message that the writers wanted to get across. If they had I don't think ZLS would have taken the part.
I think they are referring to when she is 14 and he is 19 and then again when she is 17 and he is 22. When she…
Thank you for the information about the author and background of the drama. I have not read the novel or anything about it in the media. My interpretation of the drama is what I saw the characters do, say, and express.
With that being said, it is very clear that she has a crush on him when she is 14. The most telling is the scene where she takes the light bulb that he brought over and draws a picture of him patting her head on it. For me, the most telling scene is him not telling the brother (nor the parents for that matter) that he went to her conference. The brother advised him against it, but he went anyway. What is in it for him? He has just met her and knows nothing about her except what the brother has told him. Seriously, can a 14 year old blackmail a 19 year old, especially when they are not related?
As for the gifts, dates, and flirting, there are many examples of this when she turned 17. The most telling are the essay he wrote, the milk bottle scene, and the promise at the museum with the sensory box . In the essay he wrote that he was happy that he could see her again. You may call it teasing, but the milk bottle scene resembles too much of a kiss on the cheek when people are starting to date. Since he has never experienced a first love himself, how does he know what that looks like and feels like. There is much more going on in this story during this time.
In the book, the boy may not reciprocate the girl's love, but in this story he does in a way that is acceptable to the family and society. His real love is hidden, while her's is out in the open.
Again, thank you for the background information, but it does not change my interpretation of the drama.
I don't go by what people write as they judge based on how they feel about the drama. In school, I was taught to analyze a story by what the characters say, their actions, the story structure, the themes, symbolism, etc. When questions like the ones I asked are asked by many, then there is something wrong with the storytelling. Yes, a lot of people like the drama, it made them feel good, but that was all it did. Feelings do not make a masterpiece.
People do not have to hate a drama to call it overrated. People call it overrated because something in the story is flawed to make it unbelievable. For me, it was the two main leads and their relationship. Please explain to me why he needed a bride to pull the sword out? Why did the bride have to be a 19-year-old girl? Please explain to me why he was the wandering spirit? Why was the king a grim reaper? (They explained that, but it does not make sense, since he is the one who caused all the trouble in the first place). These are just three of the many questions that I had to make the story work and believable. Also, I felt there was more chemistry between the two males and two females than the couples themselves. Was this intentional? But the biggest question I have about this story is what is the message the writers are trying to get across? If viewers can't figure that out, then the story is overrated. I am glad that you enjoyed it, and it seems that it was a huge hit when it came out. I have watched many older c and k dramas and enjoyed them. It doesn't matter how old a story is. What matters is how the story is told.
Which one did NN finally respond to. Notice after she is struck with the ruler you do not see her eavesdropping again. Once she is paddled, she doesn't pull any more antics that could seriously hurt someone. When she pulls the stunt in the palace, it is only dumping water, dirt, and something else with the sticks as switches or paddles. She is willing to take the punishment and clean up the garden. She learned her lesson that you must take responsibility for your actions.
Mom had a learning curve as well. Not until she fully understood what had happened to her daughter did she understand that taking away food was not an option as a form of discipline. Multiple times she talked with her daughter. Is she a perfect mother, no. What parent is!
Thank you for the discussion. Hope you're having or had a good day.
I can explain more if you would like, and thank you for the discussion.
The forbidden love only comes in his mind, from the beginning he feels he is too old for her. He keeps expressing her age. Once he realizes he loves her he keeps expressing her age because she is not old enough to get married. She is old enough to have a relationship, but not to be married. Age does play a huge deal in this drama.
Screenwriters when adapting a book to the screen weigh what will "sell" the audience, but they also put their own twist in it. I read somewhere that in Love Like a Galaxy the female lead character is from the future. I am glad they didn't put that in the drama itself as it would have detracted from the message that the writers wanted to get across. If they had I don't think ZLS would have taken the part.
With that being said, it is very clear that she has a crush on him when she is 14. The most telling is the scene where she takes the light bulb that he brought over and draws a picture of him patting her head on it. For me, the most telling scene is him not telling the brother (nor the parents for that matter) that he went to her conference. The brother advised him against it, but he went anyway. What is in it for him? He has just met her and knows nothing about her except what the brother has told him. Seriously, can a 14 year old blackmail a 19 year old, especially when they are not related?
As for the gifts, dates, and flirting, there are many examples of this when she turned 17. The most telling are the essay he wrote, the milk bottle scene, and the promise at the museum with the sensory box . In the essay he wrote that he was happy that he could see her again. You may call it teasing, but the milk bottle scene resembles too much of a kiss on the cheek when people are starting to date. Since he has never experienced a first love himself, how does he know what that looks like and feels like. There is much more going on in this story during this time.
In the book, the boy may not reciprocate the girl's love, but in this story he does in a way that is acceptable to the family and society. His real love is hidden, while her's is out in the open.
Again, thank you for the background information, but it does not change my interpretation of the drama.