it’s been 8 weeks i can’t believe y’all are still bringing up the same tired arguments about episode 2...…
Or...just a thought...ya'll have been telling us to just ignore it or stop watching, so I guess you could just ignore our comments too? (Oh, and not loving watching sexual assault does not make one a Puritan.)
Does she have a website? Where does she upload her subs? I watched something she subbed a few months ago but I…
Can you remind me where to find these subs? Like what is d-addicts address again? (I can't seem to find it anywhere after I cleared all the cookies away...) Also, has episode 6 been subbed yet?
Thank you for this. I agree, people will say "he wanted it" but he wasn't coherent enough to want it, and then…
Thank you for your comments, as they're helpful and I appreciate them.
Sexual violence shouldn't be normalized in media though, no matter queer or straight or non-binary. Game of Thrones got a huge amount of flak for all the rape and abuse heaped on character after character. (I've not seen Forbidden so I can't comment on that one.) And there are multiple advocacy groups in the US asking for fewer serial murder shows that depict women getting assaulted and tortured and murdered every week. It's an unpopular opinion to have right now but that has effects on people. It adds to the narrative that women exist to be assaulted and murdered onscreen, in terrible ways, week after week, for our entertainment and enjoyment.
I acknowledge your point about not wanting to apply a purity test to media about queer folks, and I actually don't want to do that. I hope we can keep telling stories about how queer Asian folks exist in the world. But I didn't make up the fetishizing comment out of thin air - that's an opinion that quite a few people are talking about right now (not just on MDL), and more all the time. BL is almost exclusively written by straight women. The world needs more queer media written by and for queer folks. (This goes for the actors, writers, and directors too...also, more media for lesbians and bisexual folks!!) This is just one video that I found about this topic - I'm sure you've watched and read quite a bit about this, but for anyone else reading this comment, this might be helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0hL_ujXqk
But back to your point about not wanting to separate BL and LGBTQ+ like heterosexual romance and shoujo manga, I would say that rape culture and physically abusive tropes appear in shoujo manga and anime more often than they should, and those need to be talked about too.
Right. I agree, like we have had so many shows that have shown way worse than what these BL shows shows. Hell,…
It does for many of us. I know that that's a source of consternation for others on here, but it actually makes the show MUCH less entertaining. Because sexual assault is just not fun to watch.
Thank you for this. I agree, people will say "he wanted it" but he wasn't coherent enough to want it, and then…
LGBTQ+ media is being produced in great quantities all over the world, (and have been for years) but they don't usually have the tropes and fetishizing fanservice for straight women that many (too many!) BL's from Asia have. It's media produced for the queer community, not straight women, which is very different. (Also, Brokeback Mountain was not a "BL movie", and neither of the characters were married when they started their relationship.)
This is a much more sober and judicious objection than what we have seen on here. I disagree with you on a few…
I hope we can get to the point where we say that each person gets to decide for themselves when to have sex with another person. It's majorly screwed up that this character decided FOR his stepbrother that it was time to have sex, and because they weren't moving fast enough (in his opinion), he sped up the process. That decision wasn't his to make, though, and that's why a lot of us have an intense dislike for that particular storyline in this drama. That was one character thinking he knew better than another and taking someone he supposedly loves completely out of the equation. That's not healthy - it's the complete opposite, actually - and it's not a good start to a relationship.
Right. I agree, like we have had so many shows that have shown way worse than what these BL shows shows. Hell,…
Well at least you admit that a character was actually "drunk and taken against their will." And for many of us here, being drunk and taken against their will is a hell of a lot worse than infidelity between two sober and consenting adults. Sober. And consenting.
I didn't like the actor who plays Nomiya at all. He felt so emotionless at times. The movie was alright, I loved…
I'm not sure what movie you watched if you thought Yokohama Ryusei was emotionless in this film. All kinds of emotions seeped out of his pores in every scene he was in....
This was ok, but the main leads were just too pure and naive and the conflicts were unnecessary. However, (and as always), Ryusei doesn't disappoint, even with less than great material to work with.
I'm not trying to be rude or a smart ass, but seriously, wouldn't this be a great cause for some deep reflection…
Where did I use all caps? On proper nouns, names and acronyms?! Because I didn't use them for anything else... A "shame-free" society? You're an expert at shaming people on here who express a different opinion. But again, you really are reaching here, and you seem to like making huge declarative statements about how right you are and how wrong everyone else is. Again, you don't know me, but you keep making these assumptions about what "people like me" do and say. Suffice it to say that all of the bullshit you've spewed so far about me is just wrong. But I don't owe you an explanation, and there's no fucking way that I would trust you with any of my personal information.
I'm not trying to be rude or a smart ass, but seriously, wouldn't this be a great cause for some deep reflection…
Fuck off, honestly. You used some big words in your screed just now, but you just sound pathetic and sad. Talk about not being able to handle something - dear Lord, you are the worst. If my opinion really didn't matter to you, you wouldn't have used as many caps as you did in your reply (which you also insulted someone else in this thread for doing, but you seem to not be able to take your own advice.) I've watched LGBTQ+ content for longer than you have, I'd be willing to bet, so don't lecture me about what I can handle. You don't have a clue. "Virtue-fascism"? WTF?! As if you can fucking talk. You virtue-signal all over the fucking place, but whatevs. And you don't know me, but I'm about as far from puritanical as it gets - but hey, you've got to always be right! And contrary to your proclamations, you actually seem to be the biggest moralizer on this thread....
Sexual violence shouldn't be normalized in media though, no matter queer or straight or non-binary. Game of Thrones got a huge amount of flak for all the rape and abuse heaped on character after character. (I've not seen Forbidden so I can't comment on that one.) And there are multiple advocacy groups in the US asking for fewer serial murder shows that depict women getting assaulted and tortured and murdered every week. It's an unpopular opinion to have right now but that has effects on people. It adds to the narrative that women exist to be assaulted and murdered onscreen, in terrible ways, week after week, for our entertainment and enjoyment.
I acknowledge your point about not wanting to apply a purity test to media about queer folks, and I actually don't want to do that. I hope we can keep telling stories about how queer Asian folks exist in the world. But I didn't make up the fetishizing comment out of thin air - that's an opinion that quite a few people are talking about right now (not just on MDL), and more all the time. BL is almost exclusively written by straight women. The world needs more queer media written by and for queer folks. (This goes for the actors, writers, and directors too...also, more media for lesbians and bisexual folks!!)
This is just one video that I found about this topic - I'm sure you've watched and read quite a bit about this, but for anyone else reading this comment, this might be helpful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD0hL_ujXqk
But back to your point about not wanting to separate BL and LGBTQ+ like heterosexual romance and shoujo manga, I would say that rape culture and physically abusive tropes appear in shoujo manga and anime more often than they should, and those need to be talked about too.
(Also, Brokeback Mountain was not a "BL movie", and neither of the characters were married when they started their relationship.)
A "shame-free" society? You're an expert at shaming people on here who express a different opinion. But again, you really are reaching here, and you seem to like making huge declarative statements about how right you are and how wrong everyone else is. Again, you don't know me, but you keep making these assumptions about what "people like me" do and say. Suffice it to say that all of the bullshit you've spewed so far about me is just wrong. But I don't owe you an explanation, and there's no fucking way that I would trust you with any of my personal information.
I've watched LGBTQ+ content for longer than you have, I'd be willing to bet, so don't lecture me about what I can handle. You don't have a clue.
"Virtue-fascism"? WTF?! As if you can fucking talk. You virtue-signal all over the fucking place, but whatevs. And you don't know me, but I'm about as far from puritanical as it gets - but hey, you've got to always be right! And contrary to your proclamations, you actually seem to be the biggest moralizer on this thread....