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Replying to OneAjhussi Jun 21, 2020
They are too lazy to go check the definition in the Law and they prefer to argument based on their own understanding…
You knows it’s a fact many victims of sexual harassment keeps it to themselves and don’t report it due to a myriad number of reasons like fear, dignity, pride, shame, and etc.

He clearly was uncomfortable with her kissing him. And why wouldn’t you be? That’s a normal reaction being kissed by a stranger on the streets.
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Replying to Pranksalot Jun 21, 2020
“ Stop the toxicity”—the toxicity is coming from people who make up their own definitions of what is sexual…
“ the thing is that most people don't look a drama with a moral judgment”
—I’m not sure how this can be proven,

Tbh I don’t have evidence but in my opinion, I don’t think your style of thinking is common, differentiating right and wrong in both drama and real life context.It’s great you can separate reel from real.

My problem is people who don’t see those behaviors as wrong, even in real life. Because they are pulling up laws from their country and justifying with real life examples.
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Replying to Kat39 Jun 21, 2020
Actually, the male lead did not perceive or feel that the female leads actions were sexual assault ( when she…
And it was unwelcome. She’s a stranger he met in three minutes randomly. It’s not like they were speed-dating. He was flustered and uncomfortable by it.
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Replying to Pranksalot Jun 21, 2020
It’s called sexual harassment (happened on both episodes) and physical assault and home-wrecking(trying to pursue…
Home wrecking is referred to three years later, he has a girlfriend. You can see her in episode 2
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Replying to Pranksalot Jun 21, 2020
“ Stop the toxicity”—the toxicity is coming from people who make up their own definitions of what is sexual…
Your rebuttal doesn’t make sense at all.

So people have separate moral codes while watching dramas and in real life?
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Replying to OneAjhussi Jun 21, 2020
They are too lazy to go check the definition in the Law and they prefer to argument based on their own understanding…
You provided one paragraph of your country law? And you deemed that is sufficient? Your paragraph of the law also constitutes the FL actions as sexual harassment
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Replying to OneAjhussi Jun 21, 2020
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I don't see where in this drama there is sexual harassment or physical abuse or cheating so far.
When did I say she blackmailed him???

Everything you stated is just pure justification and would not be acceptable in real life.

https://www.un.org/womenwatch/osagi/pdf/whatissh.pdf

Under the UN article, her actions would clearly be classified as sexual harassment.

—just because it happens in other dramas does not mean it should be tolerated.
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Replying to OneAjhussi Jun 21, 2020
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I don't see where in this drama there is sexual harassment or physical abuse or cheating so far.
When did I say she blackmailed him???

Everything you stated is just pure justification and would not be acceptable in real life.

https://www.un.org/womenwatch/osagi/pdf/whatissh.pdf

Under the UN article, her actions would clearly be classified as sexual harassment.

—just because it happens in other dramas does not mean it should be tolerated.
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Replying to Kyubin Jun 21, 2020
Your comment is ignorant and hurtful.Honestly, do you think there is just one, ONE, drama, series or film in the…
You’re throwing something so broad. It’s not a cookie cutter. Every situation has to be evaluated differently. In this situation it’s clear as day the FL committed unethical acts.

“ I just proved that according to someone's moral, anything can be seen as immoral”
I don’t disagree with this. Ex. I can be offended if you eat apples.

This has nothing to do with the context at hand. And in the court of law, she would be deemed guilty.
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Replying to Kyubin Jun 21, 2020
Your comment is ignorant and hurtful.Honestly, do you think there is just one, ONE, drama, series or film in the…
You’re throwing something so broad. It’s not a cookie cutter. Every situation has to be evaluated differently. In this situation it’s clear as day the FL committed unethical acts.

“ I just proved that according to someone's moral, anything can be seen as immoral”
I don’t disagree with this. Ex. I can be offended if you eat apples.

This has nothing to do with the context at hand. And in the court of law, she would be deemed guilty.
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Replying to ponnu Jun 21, 2020
for decades in kdrama land arrogant rich male leads have been forcefully kissing, stalking and controlling the…
The problem is that there are people here who are arguing that no sexual harassment exist on this show when it did, twice.
So that’s one of the big issues.

I can’t speak about your examples because they’re so broad and I don’t know the context but if it happened the exact same way, then yes it’s wrong.

And you’re right, you shouldn’t degrade the entire show because of a few incident. And that’s not what I’m doing.

The thing that gripes me is that certain people are lowballing the few incidents as harmless.
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Replying to HealerIsLove Jun 21, 2020
So true...people need to understand that they cannot impose their opinions on others by invalidating positive…
“ ..just because some people are watching this show purely for entertainment purposes and don't want to look for any social or moral inconsistencies doesn't make them or their opinions ignorant.”
—well in that case, why are those people arguing back and giving their perspectives of the issues in the dramas? If they are watching for purely entertainment purposes, then act like it.

What makes them ignorant is their explanations of the social issues and justifying the behaviors of certain characters.

“ It wouldn't necessarily be bad to look at the other side...would it?”
—I’m reading all the comments, so yeah I’m reading the positive and negatives. I leave all the positive comments alone unless they start complaining about the critics.
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Replying to HealerIsLove Jun 21, 2020
So true...people need to understand that they cannot impose their opinions on others by invalidating positive…
Heck yeah we can call people ignorant if they are not informed of the definitions of sexual harassment and the other issues.

If you read the comments, some defenders also called the critics ignorant as well, so why can’t I use it?

Well you’re pushing your opinion, so I can as well.
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Replying to Kyubin Jun 21, 2020
Your comment is ignorant and hurtful.Honestly, do you think there is just one, ONE, drama, series or film in the…
You are pulling things out of thin air to justify this, your MPB example is so extreme. I can’t even. Did they point a gun at their heads to consume the alcohol? They are used by the heavens to help people by going into their dreams and resolved grudges and other life problems.

“ sure you will disagree, but it just shows how shallow your argument on moral is and that in the end it's just a matter of opinion, what you like or dislike, and not something about absolute right or wrong in this world.”
—where are you pulling this out of? That’s there’s no absolute right or wrong in the world? Are we going philosophical now? I’m sorry, but your thinking needs some altercations.
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Replying to Jonasan Jun 21, 2020
When i dislike a drama I drop it and don't comment any further on it. It's very sad that the same* people feel…
“ Stop the toxicity”
—the toxicity is coming from people who make up their own definitions of what is sexual harassment and belittling those who won’t stand for justifications of unethical behaviors of characters in the show. Because how you view the character actions is how you view people’s action in real life. And it’s a tragedy really the way some people think of issues on sexual harassment, physical assault, and pursuit of people who are already in a romantic relationship.
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Replying to Kat39 Jun 21, 2020
Actually, the male lead did not perceive or feel that the female leads actions were sexual assault ( when she…
He was clearly uncomfortable and that was unexpected and he did not ask for it.

The second time, he was not aware because he was asleep and drunk.

See, your comments are examples of why people have to repeat the same thing over. Your justifications are really devastating and tragic.
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Replying to OneAjhussi Jun 21, 2020
I don't see where in this drama there is sexual harassment or physical abuse or cheating so far.
The paragraph you provided is so broad that I can argue that the acts of the FL is sexual harassment.
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Replying to HealerIsLove Jun 21, 2020
So true...people need to understand that they cannot impose their opinions on others by invalidating positive…
It’s the same for those who don’t like people voicing out their concerns. You don’t like it, then please ignore the comments.

This comment page is for everyone.

You all can sit back and perpetuate ignorant comments and thoughts.
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