Not a fan of both, just to correct your statements, Yu Shuxin's dad doesn't owe that $15M, it was about a tax…
Attention seeking whore. I don’t care where you live bruh. I said what I said and none of it included hate towards Esther just the plain truth and hard facts.
Not a fan of both, just to correct your statements, Yu Shuxin's dad doesn't owe that $15M, it was about a tax…
How do you know k don’t live in china? Do you know me? YOU DO NOT! How do you know I’m not fluent in mandarin? YOU DO NOT! your idiocy truly knows no bounds. Whether I’m poor or wealthy is irrelevant. Excusing celebrities immoral actions just because you stan them shows your character as a person. It’s a fact her family owed the money, it’s a fact it’s not the first they’ve been media for being sketchy business people with reports of them even charging higher interest rates than should be accepted and it’s a fact that knowing of this Esther still publicly associate with her family and even in the midst of them owing the money that was not yet paid back she and her dad went out shopping in luxury brands. I saw the report in real time about her dad and grand father separately and I saw the video recorded by one of her fan from inside the store where was with her dad shopping in the midst of it all. I don’t need to read poorly translated articles since i understand mandarin just fine.
Not a fan of both, just to correct your statements, Yu Shuxin's dad doesn't owe that $15M, it was about a tax…
I don’t care if they’re wealthy they had a debt of 15 million that was unpaid at the time of when she and him went shopping in luxury brand. There was no miss translation. It was money owed that needed to be paid and they didn’t pay it but was instead on a shopping splurge. You’re an idiot who just wanna run your mouth tryna be a know-it-all.
If getting pregnant by Ci Min wasn’t Qian Qian’s idea or plan then she’s also a victim. She was a powerless…
Bruh are you slow? all of this was told in the novel and all of what I said was also hinted at in the series meaning they addressed it they just didn’t go into details like the novel did.
How can u say that when u don't know either of them. You can't judge someone just because of what u read and watch.…
Watch both of their shows only one can act. The other is stuck doing aegyo faces and voices at her big age. Her expression is subpar just like her acting. I sound so mean and harsh right now as if I’m bullying her but I’m literally not it’s just the truth without any bias. My comment isn’t because I like Rosy over her either.
Forget the drama. You’re the kind of person who sees everything in black and white, while most people in real…
What’s your point? Nobody is saying he didn’t experience hardship. If he was stuck on killing Qian and the child because they assaulted him nobody would’ve seen him as a villain however that’s not the case. He became a villain when he began killing just for the love of the game. He became blood thirsty and grew a selfish desire to rule even if that means killing any and everything in his path including his own child. He longed stop caring about how the child came about and more about getting rid of it because it pose a threat to his position.
Again everybody would’ve been more lenient with him if he simply wanted to take revenge and was only attacking and killing those who wronged and the Leads and everybody was stopping him for the “peace” but that’s not the case. He’s just a tyrannic murderer that’s why no one SANE is taking his side. He could’ve been a grey character if his killings were a little justified but they’re not at all. Not even one.
If getting pregnant by Ci Min wasn’t Qian Qian’s idea or plan then she’s also a victim. She was a powerless…
When Qian Qian confronted the nanny/wet nurse I don’t remember which EP it was. But I think the nanny was helping her escape and she mentioned something along the lines of it was the nanny’s fault this is happening because she chose to throw her into Qi min bed chamber.
If getting pregnant by Ci Min wasn’t Qian Qian’s idea or plan then she’s also a victim. She was a powerless…
Though she was force into the equation she still committed the act therefore making her a rapist nevertheless. But yes the main person to blame is the nanny/wet nurse. Qian Qian decided to run away after she started being abused and Qi min many attempts to murder her. She also learnt she was pregnant and decided she didn’t want her child to grow up with such a father.
There’s a comment somewhere here that explained this. Qi Min did not rape Qianqian. Both of them were drugged…
Qian Qian raped Qi min not the other way around. Qian Qian was aware of what happened while Qi min learnt about it much later after he got better from his illness. When he learnt of it he wanted to kill Qian. He only became obsessed with her after her act of kindness; saving him from drowning.
A lot of people were at my throat for my comments replying/addressing other comments I saw romanticizing Qi min and Qian Qian relationship … so in this comments I’ll talk about how these people can never ever and should never ever be seen as a couple. (Most of what I’ll be saying isn’t only from the novel but are heavily hinted at in the series as well, most people just missed it)
Let’s start with the fact that Qian Qian is literally Qi min’s rapist. I don’t want to be too hard on her since she was just a servant who was force into committing the sin but that’s the plain truth. Qi min was at death doors and his wet nurse decided to force Qian Qian into his bed chambers because they wanted to secure an heir for the eastern palace after Qi min pass.
Fortunately or unfortunately Qi min didn’t die; learnt the truth and decided he’ll kill her, that fell through and instead she ended saving him from drowning. As the first person to ever truly show him kindness/ save him without ill-motives, the idiot became obsessed. This action switched the roles of both of them. She who was the perpetrator from assaulting him became a victim of his obsession and his tyrant killings and he who was a victim of being raped fell “in love” or rather developed an obsession towards his rapist believe to be affection.
This one act of kindness changed the person who is suppose to be pitied into one who needs to be shunned instead. Point of the matter is. It would've been understandable if he remain on the path of wanting to kill her for the action she commits instead he became obsessed with her and change target to the child. There’s no way he loved her considering all the previous events.. The closest thing would’ve been a development of Stockholm syndrome and that is why I said all of what I said in my first comment.
Now that I’ve told things from his point of view I am even more sure he didn’t love her and why I still cannot emphasize with him either cause his motive for a lot of things changed to just purely performing evil deeds and grounded in his desire to sit on the throne .
This is a story about a victim who became obsessed with his rapist then he and the rapist somehow switch roles having him become the perp while she the victim. My argument is; he stopped being a victim when he changed targets and started killing everyone who blocked his path towards his ambition. This is with inclusion of the child.
Forget the drama. You’re the kind of person who sees everything in black and white, while most people in real…
I think if they were to tell the real story of what really happened with these two characters people would wake up. this is a story about a victim who became obsessed with his rapist then the rapist somehow switch roles because of all the extreme measures the other took. I'm arguing that he stopped being a victim when he changed targets and started killing everyone who blocked his path towards his ambition.
Forget the drama. You’re the kind of person who sees everything in black and white, while most people in real…
You’re blowing things out of proportion. Books and tv series are fine. What’s not okay is when people start to fetishize and fantasize about stuff like that happening to them in real life to the point they’ll even go out SEEKING it. That’s exactly what the comments I saw sounded like. From what I READ in the comments these people weren’t seeing qi min as a character anymore.
Forget the drama. You’re the kind of person who sees everything in black and white, while most people in real…
No I’m not being too harsh. His motive changed and victim became a perpetrator. The only thing I pity him for is that he was violated for others selfish desires. The ML and FL both lost their parents and were faced with extreme jeering from the public none of them resorted to killing the innocent. And he wouldn’t have given up the throne to anybody had he won. The child would’ve inherited it ONLY if he became crown prince, Qi min abdicated to him or qi min died without any other male heir. The chose to kill the child not because it was a a reminder of a painful memory but out of sheer selfishness for his great ambition.
Forget the drama. You’re the kind of person who sees everything in black and white, while most people in real…
THANK YOU!!! mind you my comment was never directed at people who praise the actor for his portrayal but directed at comments I saw cursing the SFL for kill Qi min, not reciprocating his “love” and wishing she had died with him. But somehow I’m immature because I wasn’t desperately looking for the romance they all wanted me to see.
Forget the drama. You’re the kind of person who sees everything in black and white, while most people in real…
I know how the child came about in the novel and they also hinted at the same thing in the series. However that’s not the reason he wanted to kill the child. He wanted to kill the child out of fear. He feared after he ascended the throne whatever happened to the late emperor would’ve happen to him and his son would take his position since that was the sole reason the child was conceived. The wet nurse force Qian to have sex with Qi min to secure a heir because he was dying. He first wanted to kill her but changed after she saved him from drowning. His motive for killing longed changed after that too. He now solely wanted the son out of the equation because it interfered with his great ambition. I'm giving him more heat for his action because he's simply just blood-thirsty while Qian was force into the situation of assaulting him.
Forget the drama. You’re the kind of person who sees everything in black and white, while most people in real…
Obsession is just obsession no matter how you put it. There’s nothing to ponder over and there’s nothing more to understand. There’s nothing black and white about my comment either. THIS IS A MAN WHO WANTED TO KILL HIS OWN KIN. In modern times people like qi min would need to be locked away for treatment and any sane woman would keep their distance from a man like that. He didn’t have one but two obsessions. He desperately wanted the throne and desperately wanted Qian for himself, I could even argue he wanted that throne more than he wanted her and would stop at nothing to get it. There’s no romance in their story and ya’ll who are desperately looking for some there need to rethink life. You’re ending down a dangerous road. I’m not referring to people who are admiring the actors portrayal of the character I’m referring to people who wished bad on the Qian because she didn’t reciprocate Qi min “love” and those who so desperately wanted her to “love” him back.
Please learn that obsession can never be love, It’ll only end in your own tragic death. A victim can never truly love their rapist what you're seeing is mental illness developed from the trauma
First of all, this is fiction. There’s no need to attack personally. This kind of moral policing is weird, acting…
The dumb bitches saying exactly would be the ones with a developed frontal lobe and don’t find comfort in the suffering of women. I think you're even forgetting that they fist meet because she raped him under orders of the wet nurse. Though she had no control over her own actions....I still don't see how you can romanticized their relationship.... I pray you heal. Quit talking to me.
Again everybody would’ve been more lenient with him if he simply wanted to take revenge and was only attacking and killing those who wronged and the Leads and everybody was stopping him for the “peace” but that’s not the case. He’s just a tyrannic murderer that’s why no one SANE is taking his side. He could’ve been a grey character if his killings were a little justified but they’re not at all. Not even one.
Let’s start with the fact that Qian Qian is literally Qi min’s rapist. I don’t want to be too hard on her since she was just a servant who was force into committing the sin but that’s the plain truth. Qi min was at death doors and his wet nurse decided to force Qian Qian into his bed chambers because they wanted to secure an heir for the eastern palace after Qi min pass.
Fortunately or unfortunately Qi min didn’t die; learnt the truth and decided he’ll kill her, that fell through and instead she ended saving him from drowning. As the first person to ever truly show him kindness/ save him without ill-motives, the idiot became obsessed. This action switched the roles of both of them. She who was the perpetrator from assaulting him became a victim of his obsession and his tyrant killings and he who was a victim of being raped fell “in love” or rather developed an obsession towards his rapist believe to be affection.
This one act of kindness changed the person who is suppose to be pitied into one who needs to be shunned instead. Point of the matter is. It would've been understandable if he remain on the path of wanting to kill her for the action she commits instead he became obsessed with her and change target to the child. There’s no way he loved her considering all the previous events.. The closest thing would’ve been a development of Stockholm syndrome and that is why I said all of what I said in my first comment.
Now that I’ve told things from his point of view I am even more sure he didn’t love her and why I still cannot emphasize with him either cause his motive for a lot of things changed to just purely performing evil deeds and grounded in his desire to sit on the throne .
This is a story about a victim who became obsessed with his rapist then he and the rapist somehow switch roles having him become the perp while she the victim. My argument is; he stopped being a victim when he changed targets and started killing everyone who blocked his path towards his ambition. This is with inclusion of the child.
Please learn that obsession can never be love, It’ll only end in your own tragic death. A victim can never truly love their rapist what you're seeing is mental illness developed from the trauma