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You can shut the fuck up to a higher degree, or just answer the question I asked with a simple yes or no. Since you claim to be a domestic abuse survivor, you’re quite literally the perfect candidate to answer. According to you, it’s not abuse because she did it once and it was just a single slap, even though it literally drew blood and left a mark, BTW. Following your logic, right? Did you stay with that abusive partner for five long years so they could hit you more, since apparently one slap wasn’t enough to qualify as abuse? Or was the first slap your partner gave you not painful enough to alert you that they were abusive?

And saying I’m sensitive because I don’t want to brush off abuse? What part of that logical reasoning makes me an idealistic teenager? Mind you, this is all over a character who, for ABSOLUTELY no reason at all, tore down a complete stranger’s house, had her men drag out his disabled father out of his OWN HOME and onto the cold hard floor, threw out his belongings, broke several of them, and even slapped him across the face when he stood up to her.

You idiots are weird for excusing such actions in the name of character complexity. There’s nothing wrong with morally grey characters or purely evil ones, but there should be some narrative reason behind their actions, whether fair, reasonable, or completely illogical. THE FL LITERALLY HAD ZERO REASON FOR HER ACTIONS. There was nothing leading up to it that angered her to warrant the lashing out or for her to proof a point. I’d even understand if she’d gone on a power trip because he stared at her too long or she didn’t like his tone, but NONE of that happened. She simply followed him home and then went mad taking over his place? Lmao And now she’s being portrayed as a victim deserving of pity and love because of her past? And the audience are suppose to what skip past what happened? She’s not like this for one episode either…..

Anyways, I’m casting pearls before swine. You’re obviously a {redacted}, so it’s useless trying to debate with you or explain simple logic. A domestic abuse survivor going out of their way to defend and excuse abuse? The irony is so fucking staggering that I honestly don’t know what else to say.

So, if your boyfriend, girlfriend, or partner slaps you across the face hard enough to leave a bruise like she did him, you'd genuinely argue that it's not abuse because it was "just one slap" and they "only did it once," right?

I just know it echoes upstairs whenever you blink, because since when does abuse need to happen repeatedly before it qualifies as abuse?

Your foul mouth runs faster than your empty head, letting out your true, vile thoughts! DO NOT SPEAK ON ABUSE when you clearly lack even the most basic understanding of what it actually is!

Okay what does that have to do with her being abusive unwarranted though? I can see that she’s a character who has baggage but that does that provide proof or explain why she destroy a complete stranger property and PHYSICALLY abuse said stranger and his family? They didn’t have an altercation or nothing….She had just met the man. No amount of complexity or past grievance explain her action. Ya’ll refuse to admit that which is so weird cause like bro….its like that for the first few episode… Are there no sane people left in this world?

huh??? Every tyrant leader in Chinese history is noted down carefully as well as all the benevolent leaders. You thinking it's the norm for royals proves you haven't watch enough dramas or read enough books. There were far more sovereign (regular or effective) emperors and royals in China than there were tyrants. And, of course, every family had its black sheep or power-hungry family member who'd abuse their power and make the entire family look bad, but that's not what we're discussing. So please, spare me the irrelevant history lesson. You're clearly missing the point.

Yes, very well said! I can see that they deliberately wanted her to appear overbearing. The issue is that they didn't provide a why. All the ML did was give her a helping hand by providing her with directions since he's from around those parts??? Her actions following that were quite nonsensical. Everything she did to him had no why, reason, or logic behind it.

I said it before: there needs to be a narrative reason for a lead character's behaviour, especially when it's such a large part of their character, and particularly when the story positions that character as the "lesser evil" or the good guy. Having the main character commit heinous acts against another main character just because she wants to, and for no other reason, makes her no better than a straight-up villain. How is she any better? How do you defend her after that? How do you feel pity for her when, later down the line, you see the actual villain do her wrong? They chatting rubbish and it's getting me mad!

oh I'm sure.....

I spent an hour writing what? Lmao. Girl, I'm not unemployed. Furthermore, why would it take me an entire hour to write a single comment? Nobody is saying fictional characters can't be mean or have emotions. Maybe you're just slow. Since we're currently discussing the LEAD CHARACTER here, it absolutely makes zero sense for her to have unexplained evil traits when she's supposedly the good guy in the story. Essentially, there needs to be a narrative reason for a lead character's behaviour, particularly when the story positions that character as the "lesser evil". Had they written her as morally grey, where she does evil things but for a reason, then that would be understandable. But what lead character simply abuses others for no reason at all except because they just "wanted to"? Does it echo when you sneeze or cough? That's the only way you'd think a lead character like that makes sense!

Mind you, the people are suppose to be her subjects....So the royal family are just tyrants who abuse their innocent poor subjects?

This is my first and last reply to you.


People can be hurt, sad, and lonely without becoming abusive towards innocent people. Yes, hurt people hurt people, but being hurt shouldn't have made her automatically abusive (ESPECIALLY TOWARDS THE DAMN INNOCENT), nor does it excuse choosing to inflict unnecessary harm on people who have done nothing to deserve it. She deliberately subjected several innocent people to mistreatment simply because she could and because she "wanted to," as you yourself mentioned. That doesn't demonstrate some profound emotional complexity. It demonstrates a willingness to abuse her power and status and disregard other people's dignity and well-being.

And let's distinguish between explaining someone's behaviour and excusing it. You can give me her entire backstory, explain why she's spoiled, sad, lonely, or emotionally damaged, and even explore how those experiences shaped her personality. None of that changes what she CHOSE to do, in my books. IT IS SIMPLY INEXCUSABLE. That doesn't make her a complex character (or rather, it shouldn't equate to her actions, which also makes complexity quite irrelevant here, BTW). That just makes her, as you said, spoiled and, as I would say, narcissistic, power-tripping, wicked, and evil. Yes, she may be psychologically complex, but most of all, she is also a terrible, terrible person. Those two things are NOT mutually exclusive. Complexity doesn't make her actions any less cruel. She's still narcissistic, power-tripping, wicked, and, based on what I've seen so far, downright evil. Yes, her backstory might help explain her behaviour, but I couldn't care less about all that, as it doesn't change the fact that she deliberately inflicted harm on innocent people for shits and giggles. In simpler terms, her psychological complexity is entirely separate from the moral assessment of her actions.

Also, PLEASE do not make this about a man. A man didn't do what she did. This is ALL on her. If a male character behaved exactly as she did, I'd judge him by the same standard..... THE FUCK? He'd be narcissistic, power-tripping, wicked, and evil just the same. He wouldn't get a pass from me or be considered a "hot red flag." You're arguing against a double standard that I haven't demonstrated. You're weird for even alluding to that. Are you insane? I've never been more offended!

I don't know what kind of spaces you come from, but where I'm from, we don't tolerate abuse of any kind, and we certainly do not find it attractive. Male or female!

You can openly admit that she's a terrible person who will likely be given a tragic sob story to make the audience pity her and forget about her evil deeds, and STILL say you enjoy her as a fictional character. Nobody is stopping you from liking an unlikeable character. She is the leading lady, after all. But there's a difference between enjoying a character despite their actions and trying to downplay their evil deeds as part of their character being complex. NO, no, my friend, the character is just wicked! No amount of sugarcoating will change that.

You used character complexity as though it somehow addresses the criticism I'm making—it doesn't. You're also introducing a gender comparison that has absolutely nothing to do with the specific behaviour I'm criticizing. I watched her mistreat innocent people, and I'm calling that behaviour exactly what it is: cruel, entitled, and abusive. You even said it yourself. So stop trying to make that assessment into something it isn't.

What an odd thing to say to a person who called out a bully....Hmmm

I'm trying to watch this, but off the bat, the first episode was most unpleasant. Just the first episode alone could make me hate the female lead. I think that was exactly what they were going for, but the thing is, all her overbearing acts made no sense.

There isn't any amount of character development or explanation in the world that could justify tearing down poor people's homes, throwing out their belongings, and even dragging the people themselves out just so you could occupy their home. The FL was just overly unpleasant, and her actions made zero sense. There's absolutely no reason in this world for you to be this disgusting towards someone who offered you hospitality.

So, because of this, I'm gonna drop the drama. Because she'll likely not apologize to the ML and his family, but instead, the writers will come up with a sob story about why she is the way she is now and why she acted like that. I'm sorry, but there's no justification. There just isn't.

Then, as for the ML, he allowed that to happen to his family, only intervening when he thought blood would be drawn... Ion know, man. They need to go back to the drawing board. Ion know a single soul who would be that tolerant of someone behaving so openly horribly towards their family. Power trip or not.

EDIT✍️: You idiots are weird for excusing such actions in the name of character complexity. There’s nothing wrong with morally grey characters or purely evil ones, but there should be some narrative reason behind their actions, whether fair, reasonable, or completely illogical. THE FL LITERALLY HAD ZERO REASON FOR HER ACTIONS. There was nothing leading up to it that angered her to warrant the lashing out or for her to proof a point. I’d even understand if she’d gone on a power trip because he stared at her too long or she didn’t like his tone, but NONE of that happened. She simply followed him home and then went mad taking over his place? Lmao And now she’s being portrayed as a victim deserving of pity and love because of her past? And the audience are suppose to what skip past what happened? She’s not like this for one episode either!

I’m so shaken up by this news. I grew up watching so much of his works without even knowing it’s him. May he find heavenly rest🕊️💐

Yes Sad ending. Thank God!

Garbage storyline…..and even more rubbish romance.

I hope the writer never picks up a pen again, and I hope the director and screenwriter go on hiatus! Anybody who romanticizes rape culture should not have that kind of authority….

Please, PLEASE, before you come under my comment defending Changxuan and arguing about semantics, place yourself in the same situation as Ping Jun. Picture yourself experiencing what she experienced with Wu Shao. If you’re comfortable having every single sexual encounter she had with him, despite her clearly not wanting it, ONLY THEN are you worthy of coming here and starting a debate with me.

Until then, I should thank you to kindly FUK off.

They should’ve ended up alone. Neither of these relationships are healthy….. Ho and Sua could work with a little more work like therapy …..but Teasung and Mido DO NOT belong together! Not even therapy will be able to help them. They’re equally bad people( relationship wise) and shouldn’t be anywhere near each other. I think even up until now it’s only lust that’s between them. There’s absolutely no love!

I pray you’ll never have to experience what you’re so casually trying to blur the lines around. I pray you never find yourself face-to-face with a situation where you have to determine whether what happened to you was rape, sexual assault, or abuse. Maybe then you’d understand very quickly why these distinctions matter and why you can’t keep changing the definition of sexual violence simply because it’s convenient for your favorite character or storyline.

I’m not taking in nothing that degenerate incel shii. There were GOOD MEN in the 80s. Not every man from back then thought forcing sex on a woman who clearly didn’t want it was okay. The only men who thought of doing stuff like that were sexual assaulters and abusers.

But I think this show did exactly what it needed to do; cause look at the lengths ya’ll are willing to go to to defend a fictional rapist character. I pray none of y’all will ever have to experience what you’re so casually trying to blur the lines around. I pray you never find yourself face-to-face with a situation where you have to determine whether what happened to you was rape, sexual assault, or abuse. Maybe then you’d understand very quickly why these distinctions matter and why you can’t keep changing the definition of sexual violence simply because it’s convenient for your favorite character or storyline!

Yeah, so….. It still seems so insanely weird to me how they made a man who tried to sexually assault her—to the point where she had to defend herself by stabbing him—and who forced several kisses on her, end up together with her. It’s so disgusting, my God.

Y’all have no arguments to defend this sex offender ML, so I bet you’ll pull out the good ol’ “if you don’t like it, then don’t watch” card lmao. It’s because I watched up to a point that I’m able to call out how shitty the story is.

Mind you, this is being fed to young audiences, where it’s mostly girls. We’re being fed this thinking it’s romance if we haven’t fully developed mentally. I think everybody already knows this, but people, especially REAL C-netizens, literally worship artists and the characters they play. Some even want to be like them in real life and CANNOT separate fictional characters from real people. Production and writers know this the best, which is why they specifically chose young/still newly upcoming actors for the roles. They wanted to deliberately feed us this media!

If this show should gain worldwide or nationwide success by next year, we’ll have four more storylines like this, and very quickly, it’ll be normalized. I see them doing the same shii with pseudo-incest!

The male lead is a rapist. The FL is a victim. This is not a romantic story. THERE IS NO REDEMPTION FOR A RAPIST!!! stop acting like there is! I need everybody to wake the fuck up!

If the story is about Choi Sang I journey, why is Chris K the cover of the poster? Why is the being marketed around Ahn Hyo Seop as if the story is about him?

I saw two different synopsis one about him and the other about her which is from here and the other from an article. Which is it?

I said I think it has to do with most of the ML parts. I think I wrote that comment and it typos and I didn’t check back or anything since I dropped the show!

This show just isn’t speaking to me. And u think for the most part it’s ML acting. Something about it is throwing me off….