Sanoya

I’m casting pearls before swine.

I bet if they put your brain in a bird, it’ll fly backwards!

Cause huh? Why do you think they don’t directly show certain correct dosages of medication in media? Why do you think certain suicide scenes, except for like hanging or drowning, are heavily censored? Parents ARE responsible for their children. However, actors are also responsible for the kind of influence they’re giving off to their young fans. Their every little action has a huge impact on their fans. The impact is not the same as what you’ll see in Western media; it’s way bigger than that!

Not everybody’s brain is fully developed, so when they come online to see people romanticizing and defending a character who used sexual coercion and a power trip to receive “sex,” what do you think will happen in their young, impressionable minds? C-netizens are made up of, like, 90% mid-teens and newly young adults, mind you. And I don’t think you quite understand what it means… these “fans” completely idolize these artists, and they’ll quite literally follow their every action.

Chinese media had to ban a certain type of trope because of this, and you wanna say I’m saying all of this to feel morally superior over who exactly? I wish I gave a fuck about stuff like that lmao.

They most definitely are romanticizing is character and skipping over the fact that he has used power base coercion to receive sexual favors from her….they most definitely are!

Rape is rape. Sexual assault and harassment are just that. There’s no amount of debate you can hold that’ll convince me that the male lead of a show sexually coercing the female lead is part of him being “complex”!

I saw incel behavior, so I said incel. What’s wrong with calling a spade a spade?

I’m not morally superior, and I NEVER thought I was. I just won’t defend rape or its adjacent forms under any circumstances.

Maybe you were raised by a dog, but I wasn’t! But I pray that y’all will NEVER be met with a situation where you’ll have to decide in real time/in real life what constitutes rape, sexual abuse, sexual harassment, or coercion!

Good night! Have the day you deserve.

What do you call being forced to perform sexual acts or have sexual acts done to you EVEN THOUGH YOU’RE SHOWING CLEAR DISINTEREST AND BEING OPENLY UNCOMFORTABLE, by the person who is holding your fiancé captive? If that’s not sexual coercion, then what the hell is it?

You’re using the fact that someone I love is being held captive to force me into sexual acts I clearly do not want. That is literally coercion. There is no meaningful choice there. I’m not willingly participating because I want to—I’m doing it because someone has power over my fiancé and is exploiting that power to obtain sexual access to me.

Furthermore, I’m literally Black. Why do you care if I say “niggas” or not? Worry about why you’re writing it out if you’re not Black, unlike me!

Yeah, yeah. Fuck alladat. How does any of that warrant you defending a character who is being romanticized after he constantly sexually abuses the female lead, who, BTW, they’ll later pair up romantically?

Rape is rape. Sexual harassment and assault are just that. There’s nothing in this world you can write that would make it justifiable or defensible. Every “sexual encounter” between them stems from abusive coercion and the absence of meaningful choice.

Stop talking to me about character complexity where sexual assault is involved. I don’t wanna fucking hear it.

EXACTLY! Point blank period. That’s just it. There’s no about of complexity to defend or justify sexual abuse of any kind!

Lmao🙁. Here I was thinking the same thing. They’re literally proving my point, and this is EXACTLY WHY I SAY IT IS A HARMFUL ONSCREEN PORTRAYAL! They’re jumping through hoops to justify how sexual assault/rape/harassment is part of the character’s complexity and how he does “good things” otherwise. Like, umm, can you imagine such a scenario happening in real life and people looking at the victim and saying some weird-ass shii like that?? Like, your ass deserves to get punched square in your freaking mouth!!!

I wonder if these people were raised by dogs!

Yes I’m close minded. I simply do not care about the character otherwise. I’ve seen enough. I don’t care about its background or how complex they’re otherwise. Their action should not include sexual assault, abuse or rape. SIMPLE. He could’ve done a 1000 good deeds and I’ll judge him base on the fact that he’s a rapist. There’s no need to rape someone and you can’t accidentally do it either. You have to be disgustingly evil to do such and act. You’re just proofing my point though. People will find a reason to say he did that because of his past or because he’s a complex character. I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR IT? I should thank you to block me and stop replying to my comments on here! Go somewhere else with that incel shit!

I have zero tolerance for bullshit. 🤷🏾‍♀️ There’s no amount of moral greyness or character complexity that makes rape and abuse a normal part of their action. I’m sorry.

Furthermore, I made three comments going in-depth and making points from all angles, and you’re here trying to “justify” his actions or make it seem as though he’s not a one-dimensional rapist. You’re literally proving my point.

A RAPIST IS A RAPIST. I’ll thank you to stop defending his actions and trying to blur the lines just because it’s a drama, especially when it’s being marketed towards a young audience.

I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT HOW COMPLEX THE CHARACTER IS. At the end of the day, he’s a rapist, regardless of how complex he might be otherwise. I’m judging him based on his actions as a rapist, and I’m not about to let whatever other qualities he possesses distract from that fact!

Girl I’m not reading alladat. I said what I said. There’s literally nothing you can say to me that would justify why they’re trying to romanticize a rapist. NOTHING!he’s not a complex or morally grey character HE’S a rapist. Everything else can be justify except rape. And that’s just what it is. He’s a rapist!the character is a rapist!

I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE RAPE IS NORMALIZED AND ROMANTICIZED JUST BECAUSE THE ASSAILANT IS GOOD-LOOKING. ACTING OR NOT, THIS SETS THE STAGE FOR A RIPPLE EFFECT ON REAL-LIFE ATTITUDES AND BEHAVIOR.

Women are being killed for not giving niggaz their numbers. Millions of women across the globe are still losing their lives to domestic abuse because governments refuse to adequately charge and lock away their assailants for good.

THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR YOU PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY AS WOMEN YOURSELVES, TO BE CONSUMING AND ROMANTICIZING MEDIA THAT NORMALIZED RAPE!!

PICK UP YOUR MORALS AND GET A FUCKING GRIP!

And before y’all start… “Netizens” and Asian drama watchers differ significantly from those who mainly consume Western media. The original premise that popularized Chinese dramas and K-dramas alike was the storytelling and cinematography. The fans of these artists/actors differ significantly from Western audiences. I know a lot of ya’ll are gonna say, “They’re actors; it’s literally their jobs,” or that I’m trying to align every role with my personal preferences. I AM NOT!

ACTORS’ DECISIONS HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THEIR FANS, so their choices DO matter when their characters are not the SUPPORT/SIDE villains of the story BUT THE MAIN LEADS, whose every action is GLORIFIED AND DEFENDED by their fans. They can both pick whatever scripts they want, HIM ESPECIALLY, but me and others alike can side-eye them for picking ones that romanticize abuse and violence adjacent.

I’m not saying we can’t have morally grey lead characters or even a villain/evil person as a lead… I’m saying there’s a line we mustn’t cross, especially when it comes to justifying certain things/actions.

Goodbye, My Princess had a horrible male lead, but he was a great character, and the show didn’t paint his actions in a good light.

YES, I AM THE MORAL POLICE! I really don’t care what people choose to watch, be it toxic, problematic, morally grey characters, or whatever, but SEXUAL ASSAULT? Yeah, that’s where one should draw the line, even in fiction. Defending a rapist and romanticizing it under the label of “dark romance” is so………..fucking weird and nasty, to say the least.

Like, yeah, I’m judging you, disgusting pig. LITERALLY, WHO RAISED Y’ALL!!!

The fact that people are actually hating on the girl for not falling for the man who tried to rape her is even WORSE, like??? Imagine being this desperate that they want her to fall for her assaulter… Oh my God, where the fuck is this world going… like, genuinely.🫩🫩

I simply do not understand the concept behind the writing either. It doesn’t bring awareness to the topic; instead, it turns around and romanticizes the character who committed the act(WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN HE’S “HAWT”🤢🙁) and will even pair and link the assaulted and assaulter together romantically?? Like, in what fucking world?? I don’t know what was going on in the original writers’ minds, and I’m even more confused as to why the directors and screenwriters thought this was something that needed to be brought to life, knowing that the audience would undeniably MAINLY BE people of young and impressionable minds.

This is off-putting and leaves a bad aftertaste. It’s the second time this year I’ve seen people and writers alike try to romanticize rape and even pair up rapists with their victims. IT’S REPULSIVE!!! And it’s not okay!

Let’s hope we get back the full original cast. I hate new faces with the name of characters that were played by others. It just doesn’t feel the same (in a very bad way)

I should thank the writers, producers, hell, the whole fucking team, to never step into a writers/producers booth again!

The secondhand embarrassment I’m getting is gut-wrenching. I just keep gagging and vomiting in my mouth.

It’s like a humiliation ritual for the lead actors, this one.

These bitch-ass niggaz took a piss writing this shitshow.

There shouldn’t have been enough money in the world for anybody to see such a script and decide, “Yeah, imma act in this.” WERE THE BILLS PAST DUE???

It reading alladat. Sorry that happened to you or congratulations!

This is either gonna be the greatest show ever; something like "kill me, heal me" or absolute bullshit. There's no between. (I'm aware it's not the same concept necessarily I'm just referring to the playing of multiple character with different "personality"/way of living)

I don't understand his character? LMAO........ He's literally the most one-dimensional character ever. What's there to not understand? Furthermore, Qi Heng is like two or so years younger than Gu Ting Ye; there's no way he's a teen or should be acting as such in any of the episodes after Gu Ting Ye had his outside mistress, which SEVERAL ep before Episode 28.

He had help to fight for the girl of his so-called dreams and chose to give up because he feared power. Then he had the gall to petty attack Ting Ye's political character.

Unlike him, Gu Ting Ye saw what he wanted and took it without being indecisive.

Let's forget everything about him being the only child and choosing his family over her. The fact of the matter is, marriage would always be determined by the parents and a matchmaker, unless, in Gu Ting Ye's case, you had already established your own household separate from your family.

Qi Heng knew he was a momma's boy and had no power or control over his mother to steer her toward proposing marriage on his behalf. Furthermore, Minglan was but an illegitimate child. It would be unlikely for her to marry into a prestigious family like his unless as a concubine, by order of the king, a figurehead, or if his family genuinely wanted her.

He knew all of this, yet he continued chasing her without having any realistic way to make their relationship possible. That is the biggest issue with him. He knew he was powerless against his mother and the people above his family, but instead of accepting that reality and protecting Minglan from the consequences, he kept making promises and giving her false hope. His actions only damaged her reputation and made her look like a social climber and a "whore", while he seemingly never stopped to consider what his pursuit was doing to her.

If he truly loved her, he should've drawn a line when he realized he couldn't give her a future. Instead, he kept chasing her until she trusted him and believed his empty promises, only for him to abandon her when the first REAL obstacle appeared. That's not just being sheltered or young. That's cowardice.

And yeah, he's spineless. He knew the kind of person Ting Ye was. This is a man who, as a boy, fought off his maternal uncles when they intended to steal his assets and reclaim them. He was no more than 10–15 years old then. They tried to kill him several times, and he survived. They tried to steal his property, and he reclaimed it. He literally had a reputation from a young age for being tactful and smart.

I'm sure Ting Ye would've delivered on his promise to save Qi Heng's father and family. He would've fought tooth and nail to help them, gotten the prince's family to stand before the court and face justice, and even helped Qi Heng get married if he put his mind to it. I know we as viewer gets a more in depth view of his character but literally i'm sure even Qi Heng knew how resilient his character is. He saw they had strong feelings for each other and wanted to help them. He was willing to take risks and fight when he wasn't. That's the real difference between them.

Qi Heng spent years chasing Minglan and insisting on a future he knew he couldn't secure; My hatred runs deeper when I saw he finally had the opportunity to fight for that future, but he instead bowed to power and gave up and her after putting her through hell! He turned his back and married someone else, knowing exactly what that would do to Minglan's reputation and her standing in her family and society as a concubine/illegitimate daughter.

So yeah, don't tell me about who I don't understand! You would be correct that he was at a crossroads on his own when it came time to choose, but he was not. He was offered help from his most trusted ally but gave up the chance to fight at all. He had the perfect opportunity to proof he could protect her, but when the time came to actually take that risk, he chose not to.

sure Jan!