Re: E08 ending…That was the best revenge against the people who are using your own brother; and clearly doesn't…
Nah, I think the section chief is just kissing ass to get ahead, so to speak - he probably thinks it'll get him a promotion or at least set him up in his boss' thanks books, LOL.
I mean, if he also helped put together the case ten years back, he wouldn't want it to become known that they did a quick job just to close the cases and hide the rape of SBY or that there are also circumstantial evidence that are in JeongWoo's favour - things like the gas ticket for example. Or the too-small shoes JeongWoo supposedly was wearing when he was (not) in the barn, or how they convinced him to confess to killing them when he just cannot remember one way or the other. If the chief goes down, so does the section chief - he wants it all to go away now, too.
Re: E08 ending…That was the best revenge against the people who are using your own brother; and clearly doesn't…
The chief went along with the cover up because the other two parents told him about what happened in that warehouse and implied GeonOh was there too and participated in what happened to BoYeong. He never really knew what GeonOh actually did, and it was always hanging over him. The evidence was already hidden, and if he had gotten it, he would've destroyed it before checking just in case there was anything to link back to GeonOh.
He tried to protect him the best he could, by sending GeonOh away and doing whatever he could to hasten the trial before JeongWoo became an adult according to law (and get JeongWoo the best lawyer he could, just shut up his conscience).
The other case - NaDeum's - was linked by sheer circumstance, since she was JeongWoo's girlfriend at the time. He just wanted to solve two crimes at once, get his promotion for doing it so fast, save his son, and all he had to pay for it was another family's son's life. It was an easy choice for him - just as it was an easy choice for the other two to just blame JeongWoo for being better than their own sons and find excuses for them...
If I were JeongWoo at this point, I'd go get some gas and a lighter and fire up the whole town.
TBH I think it's more like Noh SangCheol GETS JeongWoo's frustration with it all, since now he's convinced JW was a victim too, and just can't quite grasp the solid evidence to go ahead and open up the case bypassing the chief. And maybe he pities him a bit too, though the puppy eyes didn't hurt LOL.
It always is frustrating to know you HAVE to do something because it's the right thing to do, and getting shut down by incompetence, corruption or plain lazyness.
And he's a bit sneaky, too, I guess he thinks JeongWoo could get some more info out of ByeongMu if he has a little chance. He already tried MinSu, and got little - but a little part of the reason why. They were both driven insane by jealousy - here's this guy who's from a well-to-do family, smart, good looks, athletic, acting like being a hero for his friends is easy, going to med school, already got a car, all the girls want him... And they're just his hangers-on who have to work really hard for whatever they need, a bit cowardly, not really wanted by the girls they're interested in, well-aware of the difference between them and him. When BoYeong taunted them, they snapped.
And then it was easy to move their own shock and guilt on JeongWoo, because obviously if he wasn't there or wasn't himself to cast such a large shadow over them, they would have NEVER. It's always someone else's fault with this type of people...
Now if JeongWoo got them to tell how BoYeong ended up in the sewer... But not yet.
At least now the chief lost one son, he'll lose his freaking control and finally DO something about the other two. There's nothing that could happen to GeonOh any more, there's no reason to hold back.
It broke my heart because it was an automated response - he knew the moves and did it without having to think about them. Just imagine living like you never got out of the prison and now everything you will ever do will be shadowed and guided by that.
Like taking off shoes and checking to see if you have anything that can be used as a weapon on you before they lock you up.
And having all that rage pent up inside and still not being able to release it because you know you're the one who's going to get the most hurt.
Though by the way JeongWoo is going around not sleeping and eating and losing nights looking for cowardly friends, I guess not hurting himself isn't that high on his list of priorities.
How about 2 guy friend of ML? Do the others find out what they did?
They didn't kill her, but she was found dead and moved to the old school's sewer. I leave it to you do decide who gave who the idea and who is the main schemer LOL.
With friends like these, who needs enemies...And he's hurt again #saveGJWDammit, I should've waited to binge it.…
I am beginning to hate-love NaGyeom and her wish to see the world burn LOL. If she can't have JeongWoo, then everybody needs to suffer along, hahaha~
So, she snitches on the gang to BoYeong's deranged father who will go deliver some justice in case the chief finagles them out of jail.
But at least NSC is consistent with his approach to policing - "I don't care about the ups and downs in your life, you rapist scum!" Tell him, NSC!! Short and to the object, LOL. SBY also had a family and ups and downs (lots of downs), what did she do to deserve what they did to her? And she was their freaking FRIEND!
... Then again look at what they did to JeongWoo, who was also their friend. Or at least he thought they were his friends, but they were leeches, the lot of them. Including GoenOh, wretchedly coward til the end - he could've at LEAST told the truth before ending everything. He was courageous enough to do that, but not to help his friend?!
And in trying to cover it all up everybody seems to have forgotten SuOh also saw what happened, even if he's not able to tell it directly. It's not as easy to cover up any more as it was, when people who are not in are looking at the evidence now...
There’s 7 eps left.. they can’t possible drag it on for another 7 right? Unless they conclude the first case…
There's still DaEun and NaGyeom's parts, and the people involved are even more powerful and desperate than the Chief of the police. Also, everyone else BUT NSC and Ha Seol are still very much against the truth coming out.
i don't think Geon Oh is going to say anything when being interrogated but at least they got those 2 pieces of…
He's a druggie and a drunk, already forbidden to leave the country because of his drug use accusations. His testimony alone isn't enough because it can be easily discredited.
CNG has this obsession with him, that it is starting to feel dangerous, that she will be the last hurdle for him…
It's not based on SK society, it's straight out from the book and the book is about conspiracies to cover murders and land thefts and money exchanges in a German village. This is very nicely adapted so far, but the original is definitely not about (or specific to) SK.
Just goes to show nobody has a monopoly on corruption, either political, financial or moral.
One less murder on the poor pathetic boy's head.Thank god. SMS,YBM,HGO you pieces of shit I hope you rot in prison.…
He just got a concussion, he was talking out of frustration. The second he saw the book and what was inside it he went straight back to SangCheol, LOL, he already is aware there's no one else in the village whom he can trust BUT the outsiders.
I don't think he's pathetic at all, he's fighting the whole village from the bottom of the pile upwards and against everyone with a hint of power there. So far there is no proof he didn't do it, nobody will listen to him without proof - even when he found the skeleton, everybody assumed he put her there and returned to the scene of the crime (NSC included).
But threads will start unravelling soon.
IMHO GJW is one tough bastard, to be so freaking good and naive when they put him in prison, to survive that and to come out swinging... it takes a lot of mental power.
Best episode yet. Wow. I must watch more of Byun YoHan's dramas, he's a great actor. I'm loving every scene he…
The best and most complex part though is Lee GaSub's - I totally buy it they are different persons, and their personalities come through perfectly. And I kind of think I like GeunOh a lot - he's a coward who knows he's a coward, and STILL he does the right thing, even if always too late.
While the other two are just scum who blame the victim for becoming victim and don't like it at all when the victim is fighting back.
I wonder if either of them will come clean with NaGyeom's role in BoYeoung's death. I don't remember if the twin was a part of that - SuOh saw something but he's unable to tell except for paintings...
And FINALLY we're getting to DaEun's death and the greater conspiracy.
At this point, I just want to take JeongWoo away and let him heal. Most abused character in a currently airing drama...
Best episode yet. Wow. I must watch more of Byun YoHan's dramas, he's a great actor. I'm loving every scene he is in - the character helps, but still, BYH can emote like nobody's business, and that's pretty rare lately in kdrama.
SangCheol finally decided to get out of his manic slump and go detecting - he's on GJW's side completely now and it's a pleasure to watch them spark back and forth.
Yes, this is what I'm coming back here week after week for. I have a good feeling about it.
I guess I might be in a blue mood right now, but all I'm seeing is My Country Joseon style, in movie-format, maybe with some extra violent scenes on top.
Where the heck did the smiling mobster/killer come from? And how and why did they have to wipe out Tyme's whole…
Please use a spoiler tag, the fans will flame us for anything they consider a spoiler.
My approach is I'm losing interest the more this is discussed. I am pretty attention-oriented and I don't need to be spoon-fed details of any plot, this drama isn't anything special in that manner, and TBH, it's tiresome to have to try and find alternative explanations for anything that doesn't really work in the plot - so far. I am ready to be amazed by a great and logical ending to all this.
This is coming from someone who is very much into scifi/fan and loves thrillers, who has watched plenty of dramas and movies with complicated plots, who has read quite a lot of novels in the same genres (and others), so what I'm saying - I am not a novice. Frills don't impress me much if they don't make sense.
And I'm starting to see a lot of frills the more people are trying to explain what doesn't really make sense or is unnecessarily made obscure just for the sake of it.
I'll just wait and see how well they round it up - hopefully it'll be good and satisfying. I'll just tone down my expectations (since the first half was genuinely good.)
Where the heck did the smiling mobster/killer come from? And how and why did they have to wipe out Tyme's whole…
Please don't make this about me.
The killer would have done this, the killer would have done that - the simplest thing is that they made it overconvoluted because they wanted it to be even more "shocking" and it doesn't land well. That's just that.
Not that I really care, TBH. The more people argue in favour of how good this drama is and try to give examples, the more the lack of attention of details comes through. I'd rather just wait and see if they manage a good ending, LOL.
Where the heck did the smiling mobster/killer come from? And how and why did they have to wipe out Tyme's whole…
Yeah, the production team tried to make it a bit artsy and convoluted (and managed it for a while) but now it's way too convoluted and I don't trust the writer to bring it down safely.
If I had read about her previous works I'd have lowered my expectations, TBH. Now I'll just... wait it out.
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I mean, if he also helped put together the case ten years back, he wouldn't want it to become known that they did a quick job just to close the cases and hide the rape of SBY or that there are also circumstantial evidence that are in JeongWoo's favour - things like the gas ticket for example. Or the too-small shoes JeongWoo supposedly was wearing when he was (not) in the barn, or how they convinced him to confess to killing them when he just cannot remember one way or the other. If the chief goes down, so does the section chief - he wants it all to go away now, too.
He tried to protect him the best he could, by sending GeonOh away and doing whatever he could to hasten the trial before JeongWoo became an adult according to law (and get JeongWoo the best lawyer he could, just shut up his conscience).
The other case - NaDeum's - was linked by sheer circumstance, since she was JeongWoo's girlfriend at the time. He just wanted to solve two crimes at once, get his promotion for doing it so fast, save his son, and all he had to pay for it was another family's son's life. It was an easy choice for him - just as it was an easy choice for the other two to just blame JeongWoo for being better than their own sons and find excuses for them...
If I were JeongWoo at this point, I'd go get some gas and a lighter and fire up the whole town.
It always is frustrating to know you HAVE to do something because it's the right thing to do, and getting shut down by incompetence, corruption or plain lazyness.
And he's a bit sneaky, too, I guess he thinks JeongWoo could get some more info out of ByeongMu if he has a little chance. He already tried MinSu, and got little - but a little part of the reason why. They were both driven insane by jealousy - here's this guy who's from a well-to-do family, smart, good looks, athletic, acting like being a hero for his friends is easy, going to med school, already got a car, all the girls want him... And they're just his hangers-on who have to work really hard for whatever they need, a bit cowardly, not really wanted by the girls they're interested in, well-aware of the difference between them and him. When BoYeong taunted them, they snapped.
And then it was easy to move their own shock and guilt on JeongWoo, because obviously if he wasn't there or wasn't himself to cast such a large shadow over them, they would have NEVER. It's always someone else's fault with this type of people...
Now if JeongWoo got them to tell how BoYeong ended up in the sewer... But not yet.
At least now the chief lost one son, he'll lose his freaking control and finally DO something about the other two. There's nothing that could happen to GeonOh any more, there's no reason to hold back.
Like taking off shoes and checking to see if you have anything that can be used as a weapon on you before they lock you up.
And having all that rage pent up inside and still not being able to release it because you know you're the one who's going to get the most hurt.
Though by the way JeongWoo is going around not sleeping and eating and losing nights looking for cowardly friends, I guess not hurting himself isn't that high on his list of priorities.
And Ha Seol? What about Ha Seol? She, SangCheol, JeongWoo and SuOh can make another team of musketeers :D
So, she snitches on the gang to BoYeong's deranged father who will go deliver some justice in case the chief finagles them out of jail.
But at least NSC is consistent with his approach to policing - "I don't care about the ups and downs in your life, you rapist scum!" Tell him, NSC!! Short and to the object, LOL. SBY also had a family and ups and downs (lots of downs), what did she do to deserve what they did to her? And she was their freaking FRIEND!
... Then again look at what they did to JeongWoo, who was also their friend. Or at least he thought they were his friends, but they were leeches, the lot of them. Including GoenOh, wretchedly coward til the end - he could've at LEAST told the truth before ending everything. He was courageous enough to do that, but not to help his friend?!
And in trying to cover it all up everybody seems to have forgotten SuOh also saw what happened, even if he's not able to tell it directly. It's not as easy to cover up any more as it was, when people who are not in are looking at the evidence now...
... Ah, I seriously should've waited to binge it.
And he's hurt again #saveGJW
Dammit, I should've waited to binge it. This is getting addictive.
+all the FMVs on YT. They will help with the withdrawal symptoms when you get there :D
Just goes to show nobody has a monopoly on corruption, either political, financial or moral.
I don't think he's pathetic at all, he's fighting the whole village from the bottom of the pile upwards and against everyone with a hint of power there. So far there is no proof he didn't do it, nobody will listen to him without proof - even when he found the skeleton, everybody assumed he put her there and returned to the scene of the crime (NSC included).
But threads will start unravelling soon.
IMHO GJW is one tough bastard, to be so freaking good and naive when they put him in prison, to survive that and to come out swinging... it takes a lot of mental power.
While the other two are just scum who blame the victim for becoming victim and don't like it at all when the victim is fighting back.
I wonder if either of them will come clean with NaGyeom's role in BoYeoung's death. I don't remember if the twin was a part of that - SuOh saw something but he's unable to tell except for paintings...
And FINALLY we're getting to DaEun's death and the greater conspiracy.
At this point, I just want to take JeongWoo away and let him heal. Most abused character in a currently airing drama...
SangCheol finally decided to get out of his manic slump and go detecting - he's on GJW's side completely now and it's a pleasure to watch them spark back and forth.
Yes, this is what I'm coming back here week after week for. I have a good feeling about it.
My approach is I'm losing interest the more this is discussed. I am pretty attention-oriented and I don't need to be spoon-fed details of any plot, this drama isn't anything special in that manner, and TBH, it's tiresome to have to try and find alternative explanations for anything that doesn't really work in the plot - so far. I am ready to be amazed by a great and logical ending to all this.
This is coming from someone who is very much into scifi/fan and loves thrillers, who has watched plenty of dramas and movies with complicated plots, who has read quite a lot of novels in the same genres (and others), so what I'm saying - I am not a novice. Frills don't impress me much if they don't make sense.
And I'm starting to see a lot of frills the more people are trying to explain what doesn't really make sense or is unnecessarily made obscure just for the sake of it.
I'll just wait and see how well they round it up - hopefully it'll be good and satisfying. I'll just tone down my expectations (since the first half was genuinely good.)
The killer would have done this, the killer would have done that - the simplest thing is that they made it overconvoluted because they wanted it to be even more "shocking" and it doesn't land well. That's just that.
Not that I really care, TBH. The more people argue in favour of how good this drama is and try to give examples, the more the lack of attention of details comes through. I'd rather just wait and see if they manage a good ending, LOL.
If I had read about her previous works I'd have lowered my expectations, TBH. Now I'll just... wait it out.