can someone tell me whether or not the main lead is a serial killer or psychopath? if he is a psychopath, till…
He's not a killer. He doesn't kill anyone, but he does attack a few persons - mostly in self-defense.
He has some kind of mental health problem - probably somewhere in the autism range, highly performing, where he can't recognize the emotions of others or empathize with them. He's still able to feel emotions himself, he just can't recognize what they are. Think about it like he's someone emotions-blind like he would be colour-blind (he's not colour-blind though, LOL).
Go for it, if you're on the fence about it, it's worth it!
Sort of reminds me of the movie “Waterworld” but in space … don’t ask
Ah Waterworld. The only movie I ever paid to see on the big screen and walked out in the middle of the showing. And I managed to struggle through Hollow Man, so it wasn't for lack of trying to stay there...
This doesn't fall as low as Waterworld for me, but on a scale of 0 to 10, The Martian (the novel) being a 10 and The Martian (the movie) being an 8, this is about a 3.5. I mean, there were some cool shots and I liked the sepia filter for the non-water world, LOL. But that was pretty much it.
WTF was that physics+maths in the final episode?! You get multiplied water from 1 person and it blows up the ventilation…
I wouldn't outright call it boring - actually there are parts in the first half of the drama where there are pretty good jump scares. But the second half drags a lot and they throw everything about physics and maths out the airlock, which is not to be borne, IMHO.
WTF was that physics+maths in the final episode?! You get multiplied water from 1 person and it blows up the ventilation…
Yeah, my problem with them is they're becoming kind of standard (even those you named are all pretty similar - horror / horror paranormal / bloody revenge story etc). And you already know what to expect from them - that's why I'm saying they're becoming too tropey and easily fitting into a mold, like Western dramas. The only thing still different from the shlock Netflix starts and ends in one season flat for the Western public, using Western actors, tropes, cultural norms etc, is that kdramas they produce still have SOME visible demarcation line (particularly those who are not only Netflix-airing). The actors look different enough to still be interesting to the public-at-large (I mean the casual kdrama watcher, not those who have watched more than the Netflix-produced dramas when they happen to get enough hype), the language is still intriguing, the cultural norms still aren't Western-cast (yet).
The thing with Netflix - and Disney+, lately - is that they HAVE the money to pay for whatever, produce it, throw it at the wall and see if it sticks. And the public will watch if for the novelty.
I don't have many sticks in this fire, so to say, but still... this is not the first kdrama that I was waiting for that managed to mess up in the end, in a pretty hurtful way - for me anyway. The horror stories they might do well with, but I have to admit I don't like horror and the paranormal-inclined and sci-fi I've seen, made with foreign investment, didn't convince me much...
I hope it's just because it's a new genre, but I do not expect it to be the case.
Edit: sorry for the rant, I'm still pretty miffed over this.
WTF was that physics+maths in the final episode?! You get multiplied water from 1 person and it blows up the ventilation…
Not for me, not it wasn't worth the wait/watch. It depends on what you're expecting from it.
There are some cool shots of ships and the moon station and whatnot, but the story itself was pretty meh. Also, the ending is kind of make-what-you-will-of-it (there is an ending, just that it's the multiple meaning kind of dialogue, so that everything COULD still be in the air, just in case it makes enough waves for a second season...)
If you're for hard science, no, it's pretty much not The Martian, so to speak.
WTF was that physics+maths in the final episode?! You get multiplied water from 1 person and it blows up the ventilation…
So TL:DR the rant above, Netflix is turning out to be for kdrama what Disney proved to be for the SW franchise (and pretty much anything else they've touched lately.)
WTF was that physics+maths in the final episode?! You get multiplied water from 1 person and it blows up the ventilation system, but multiplied water from 117 previous victims isn't anywhere in evidence (the station was locked down for 5 years but that water didn't get stored or frozen immediately?! (and how TF did those plants make do without nutrients and sunlight, that's another question...)
WTF did that girl do for 5 years, not breathing, not eating, in the dark, etc?! Where TF did they get 72+1 working clones of the same girl, all aged around 10-12, in those ? years the station was working?
Why the heck would there STILL be stray animals so feeding/watering strays is a felony, and who the heck is so rich to even GIVE them water anyway, how do they reproduce if the're not fed and watered?!
I don't get it - why did he have to stay behind and do whatever to the locks, the lock was open?! And whatever he did to the secondary locks didn't keep the water in place for 10 seconds. I get it, heroism etc - FFFFFFF IT!
How TF does that gill-girl NOT breathe in vacuum, and how come she doesn't slowly boil off in the effing sun?! How come the pressure gradient doesn't skin her alive WTF, isn't she basically lunar water in the end? They said it would stop multiplying when frozen to minus 80 Celsius, moon surface vacuum temps HAVE to be lower than 80 C! The Apollo missions measured vaccum pressure and temps and in the shadow the temp was around 100 K, more than double what "lunar water" would take to stop doing whatever it does.
AAAARGH.
And I had SUCH high hopes.
As for the actual story - well, the only ones I actually cared for were Chief Gong (because he was suspicious of an unknown alien thing as we ALL normal people would) and the Dr (forgot her name) because she was the only one who cared for each and every one of them. The leads and the villain could all go hang for all I care.
Which reminds me - how TF do you take a trained crew and send them to get mysterious samples from a closed off station, and they keep TOUCHING people dead from unknown diseases, maneouvre newly dead bodies WITH NOT EVEN GLOVES ON, WTH?!, NO MASKS basically the whole series, while fearing a potentially airborne virus...
THE HELL WAS THAT?!
I get it, kdrama gets more visible when internationally financed, but the downside is they keep mass-producing visual kei s**t and the Hallyu wave gets so watered down (ha!) that it's almost unrecognizable at times.
This thing above, whatever it wanted to be, could have very well been produced with an all-Western team of actors and crew, and you wouldn't have noticed the difference (and probably wouldn't have even watched it through.)
Edit: Oh and WTH was that Naruto run of the surviving clone?! Where was gravity in the meantime, taking a hike? Aah. I should stop thinking about this, LOL,
I want to pet all the bunnies in The Untamed, and I don't even like rabbits. And they don't even have one cat among the whole slew of animals in that drama (Xiao Zhan's own cat doesn't count for that, LOL.)
Okay, I just freaking can't. Somebody please spoil me.
Is it me or is this purely a Korean version of Highlander mixed with some Tale of the Nine-Tailed?! I could only watch the first five minutes and I keep getting wave after wave of generic-supernatural-(but Korean-flavoured)-story-about-immortals-that-will-make-Netflix-money. At this point, I'm a bit burned off with their Korean productions.
So, would you recommend this to someone who has watched/read way too much fantasy and is kind of fed up with immortals right now? (I mean, immortals can be cool, but not if they're, as I said, Highlanders in Korean drag.)
Is here any romance just the "normal" one not bromacne?
Yes, depending on how you want to take it. If you want them to be best bros, that's what they are. But they're in love (the characters, not the actors, I hope the difference is very clear) and passionate about it, despite the censorship. Just try to track LWJ's bouts of jealousy and WWX's cool-cat-got-into-the-cream slow smiles reserved for only LWJ. Because that's not how bros look at each other, LOL.
PS And if you want straight romance, there's that, too.
It had a great start and it was engaging (with some hiccups along the way) up to ep 6 then it just... changed.…
Retired commissioner was like, "oops. My 30 years of experience told me this is the guy but it turns out he isn't. Well then, I'll just leave this here for the prosecutor to deal with" (no remorse, no shouldering of responsibility for it.)
The prosecutor was like, "oops, we did a bad. We put it right though! There you go, you're free to leave."
The lawyer was like, "oops. I couldn't do better. Well, I tried. Little missy here in the cell doing a cameo, what's your problem? Here's my card, you're all bloodied up, I guess you killed someone - but you look innocent - I'm a third-rate lawyer who couldn't save his latest high profile client, let me do it again haha."
Family was like, "KHS, you're back, yay. We didn't mean to snub you when you were at your lowest, here's some kimchi stew, go right back to your old life."
KHS was like, "heh, guess I'm out. F*ck it, let's check if gravity still works. Yup, still does. Let's make an exit with a question of whether I'm going to experiment with gravity some more or not. Suck it, suckers!"
DJT would also have something to say - wait, he's dead. Oops.
So yeah, thinking on it some more, I'm pretty disappointed with this series, because it definitely showed it has an amazing potential. I am particularly unhappy with KHS's sea-change of a personality switch, from caring, scared, a little cowardly student, to a classic "lifer" hard-souled ex-convict. It doesn't happen like that, even if he lost all hope. But then, it's a short series, they didn't have time, etc.
PS LPT though - smoking does NOT cure asthma. Don't try this at home.
It had a great start and it was engaging (with some hiccups along the way) up to ep 6 then it just... changed. I'm not totally unhappy with the ending and I don't consider it an open ending... but it's pretty lacklustre.
Just asking is it true that incase a police / detective ( or whatever is the profession of the character played…
Therapy per se is not a banning offense (think getting some therapy after a shooting or any kind of violent incident). But someone with a serious mental health problem - like DID, in this case - would definitely jeopardize any case they're working on, since they'd have to be of sound mind to make split-second decisions and testify if they're called to.
Even IF they're highly functioning and getting continuous treatment, a good lawyer could always put their sanity in doubt, and win their case. I'm not in SK either, but I think it's an universal thing wherever there're actual police regs and procedures and the corruption levels are low.
If no one follows procedures, or they don't exist... I guess it's the wild west of policing and anything would go.
The part that does work is the bad-detective-with-conscience-pangs part. The part that definitely does NOT work…
Also, if this guy is having a split personality thing, how sound is his mind after all?! I wouldn't trust a DID/MPD cop to deal with anything.
Even IF he managed to gather evidence in a logical way, all it would take for it to be dismissed would be a good lawyer. Then again, if the series doesn't intend to follow any kind of police&legal procedure/logic, then it's all fine, I guess.
The woman Narc is there for the representation, right? 2 eps in (from 12) and she only had a judo move and three or four lines to speak. Rookie cop is also still in a coma... Meh.
I'll keep watching because LDW is entertaining, but I really did hope for more.
Obviously DJT wasn't guilty of his first offence (*eyeroll*). The prison is full of innocent people. Obviously…
At this point, I'm placing some trust that the even (and final) episode will still do it some justice. It happened in all the other weeks, why not this one too? Here's hoping.
Obviously DJT wasn't guilty of his first offence (*eyeroll*). The prison is full of innocent people.
Obviously KHS will bulk up in the week or so it takes for the trial to proceed, and then obviously he gets the gumption and experience to take down a bully who just soooo happens to come alone at their boiler-room fight. Sure. And then get tattooed (before being found guilty or not, because that's what people do.)
Obviously he (KHS) goes from completely freaking out over his innocence to completely being blase about it all, just over that one hour of testimony. I'll give it to them, she - the prosecutor - did a number on him, but personalities don't change over night FFS.
Obviously someone with severe asthma will just soooo easily deal with smoking right out of hand.
Obviously someone who shakily stated their innocence, even if starting to wonder if the victim was still alive, will NOT grasp at straws but instead start smirking about it and implying that they might be the actual killer. That's what unsentenced people do, right?
He has some kind of mental health problem - probably somewhere in the autism range, highly performing, where he can't recognize the emotions of others or empathize with them. He's still able to feel emotions himself, he just can't recognize what they are. Think about it like he's someone emotions-blind like he would be colour-blind (he's not colour-blind though, LOL).
Go for it, if you're on the fence about it, it's worth it!
This doesn't fall as low as Waterworld for me, but on a scale of 0 to 10, The Martian (the novel) being a 10 and The Martian (the movie) being an 8, this is about a 3.5. I mean, there were some cool shots and I liked the sepia filter for the non-water world, LOL. But that was pretty much it.
The thing with Netflix - and Disney+, lately - is that they HAVE the money to pay for whatever, produce it, throw it at the wall and see if it sticks. And the public will watch if for the novelty.
I don't have many sticks in this fire, so to say, but still... this is not the first kdrama that I was waiting for that managed to mess up in the end, in a pretty hurtful way - for me anyway. The horror stories they might do well with, but I have to admit I don't like horror and the paranormal-inclined and sci-fi I've seen, made with foreign investment, didn't convince me much...
I hope it's just because it's a new genre, but I do not expect it to be the case.
Edit: sorry for the rant, I'm still pretty miffed over this.
There are some cool shots of ships and the moon station and whatnot, but the story itself was pretty meh. Also, the ending is kind of make-what-you-will-of-it (there is an ending, just that it's the multiple meaning kind of dialogue, so that everything COULD still be in the air, just in case it makes enough waves for a second season...)
If you're for hard science, no, it's pretty much not The Martian, so to speak.
WTF did that girl do for 5 years, not breathing, not eating, in the dark, etc?! Where TF did they get 72+1 working clones of the same girl, all aged around 10-12, in those ? years the station was working?
Why the heck would there STILL be stray animals so feeding/watering strays is a felony, and who the heck is so rich to even GIVE them water anyway, how do they reproduce if the're not fed and watered?!
I don't get it - why did he have to stay behind and do whatever to the locks, the lock was open?! And whatever he did to the secondary locks didn't keep the water in place for 10 seconds. I get it, heroism etc - FFFFFFF IT!
How TF does that gill-girl NOT breathe in vacuum, and how come she doesn't slowly boil off in the effing sun?! How come the pressure gradient doesn't skin her alive WTF, isn't she basically lunar water in the end? They said it would stop multiplying when frozen to minus 80 Celsius, moon surface vacuum temps HAVE to be lower than 80 C! The Apollo missions measured vaccum pressure and temps and in the shadow the temp was around 100 K, more than double what "lunar water" would take to stop doing whatever it does.
AAAARGH.
And I had SUCH high hopes.
As for the actual story - well, the only ones I actually cared for were Chief Gong (because he was suspicious of an unknown alien thing as we ALL normal people would) and the Dr (forgot her name) because she was the only one who cared for each and every one of them. The leads and the villain could all go hang for all I care.
Which reminds me - how TF do you take a trained crew and send them to get mysterious samples from a closed off station, and they keep TOUCHING people dead from unknown diseases, maneouvre newly dead bodies WITH NOT EVEN GLOVES ON, WTH?!, NO MASKS basically the whole series, while fearing a potentially airborne virus...
THE HELL WAS THAT?!
I get it, kdrama gets more visible when internationally financed, but the downside is they keep mass-producing visual kei s**t and the Hallyu wave gets so watered down (ha!) that it's almost unrecognizable at times.
This thing above, whatever it wanted to be, could have very well been produced with an all-Western team of actors and crew, and you wouldn't have noticed the difference (and probably wouldn't have even watched it through.)
Edit: Oh and WTH was that Naruto run of the surviving clone?! Where was gravity in the meantime, taking a hike? Aah. I should stop thinking about this, LOL,
So, would you recommend this to someone who has watched/read way too much fantasy and is kind of fed up with immortals right now? (I mean, immortals can be cool, but not if they're, as I said, Highlanders in Korean drag.)
PS And if you want straight romance, there's that, too.
The prosecutor was like, "oops, we did a bad. We put it right though! There you go, you're free to leave."
The lawyer was like, "oops. I couldn't do better. Well, I tried. Little missy here in the cell doing a cameo, what's your problem? Here's my card, you're all bloodied up, I guess you killed someone - but you look innocent - I'm a third-rate lawyer who couldn't save his latest high profile client, let me do it again haha."
Family was like, "KHS, you're back, yay. We didn't mean to snub you when you were at your lowest, here's some kimchi stew, go right back to your old life."
KHS was like, "heh, guess I'm out. F*ck it, let's check if gravity still works. Yup, still does. Let's make an exit with a question of whether I'm going to experiment with gravity some more or not. Suck it, suckers!"
DJT would also have something to say - wait, he's dead. Oops.
So yeah, thinking on it some more, I'm pretty disappointed with this series, because it definitely showed it has an amazing potential. I am particularly unhappy with KHS's sea-change of a personality switch, from caring, scared, a little cowardly student, to a classic "lifer" hard-souled ex-convict. It doesn't happen like that, even if he lost all hope. But then, it's a short series, they didn't have time, etc.
PS LPT though - smoking does NOT cure asthma. Don't try this at home.
Even IF they're highly functioning and getting continuous treatment, a good lawyer could always put their sanity in doubt, and win their case. I'm not in SK either, but I think it's an universal thing wherever there're actual police regs and procedures and the corruption levels are low.
If no one follows procedures, or they don't exist... I guess it's the wild west of policing and anything would go.
Even IF he managed to gather evidence in a logical way, all it would take for it to be dismissed would be a good lawyer. Then again, if the series doesn't intend to follow any kind of police&legal procedure/logic, then it's all fine, I guess.
The woman Narc is there for the representation, right? 2 eps in (from 12) and she only had a judo move and three or four lines to speak. Rookie cop is also still in a coma... Meh.
I'll keep watching because LDW is entertaining, but I really did hope for more.
Obviously KHS will bulk up in the week or so it takes for the trial to proceed, and then obviously he gets the gumption and experience to take down a bully who just soooo happens to come alone at their boiler-room fight. Sure. And then get tattooed (before being found guilty or not, because that's what people do.)
Obviously he (KHS) goes from completely freaking out over his innocence to completely being blase about it all, just over that one hour of testimony. I'll give it to them, she - the prosecutor - did a number on him, but personalities don't change over night FFS.
Obviously someone with severe asthma will just soooo easily deal with smoking right out of hand.
Obviously someone who shakily stated their innocence, even if starting to wonder if the victim was still alive, will NOT grasp at straws but instead start smirking about it and implying that they might be the actual killer. That's what unsentenced people do, right?