This idiot Sunflower attacked me because of my post about my speculation.
"Stop this nonsense. You like to speculate too much about their relationship. These are actors trying to build a strong fandom around them, and they're succeeding."
People speculate that's why casinos, stock markets, and even Golden Derby--speculating on who and which movies will win in the Oscars-- exist.
He erased his other comments. Not sure why. But if speculation is wrong, then by all means, be like Trump, who will deport anyone he dislikes to El Salvador. LMAO
It seems this fandom is too authoritarian. HAHAHA
Anyways, it also rubbed me the wrong way since I'm gay and her comment seems 'homophobic'.
It makes me think that it is wrong for two guys to be in love on set in the BL industry. And that only straight actors (male and female partners) are allowed to become real-life couples after being onscreen partners. What a fuck-up industry it is then. You are promoting gay love, but you have a sort of abhorrence when some people think something is going on between the male actors. The entertainment industry thrives on speculations, too.
FYI, as an observer of the BL industry for over a decade now, the 'delulu' fans are more likely to promote BL couples and their materials more than the casual fans, and are more likely to buy and consume merchandise, tickets, magazines and other materials. That is why the industry stakeholders from agencies and managers and even the actors capitalize on the emotional buying patterns of these 'delulu' fans. This is a capitalistic industry, people. These actors and their handlers profit from the fans to make a living. Where else should they get money from aside from the sponsors? Even the sponsors will have to gauge if the BL actors have a large following to sell their products and services.
Idiots and bishes forget the definitions of 'fans', fanatics and fanaticism. I don't have to lecture you about that.
I have the tendency to speculate about a select BL couple, but I am not a fan of any BL couples after the airing of their BL series. So far, the Untamed and KinnPorsche are the only BL series I regard as masterpieces, but I don't feel a sort of fanaticism over the actors. As a gay man, I really think the BL industry outside the series is selling fake gay relationships. If MewTul have their series together, then it will be a blessing to the BL industry.
As for JossGawin, their realness offscreen is more of a speculation. But idiots are too emotional to think that they thought I was endangering the careers of their faves. You are contributing to the demise of their careers by becoming a sort of BL police instead.
Anyway, JossGawin will become a golden couple. They have the right recipes. They are mature and seem to know more about the BL industry.
I admire their acting and talents. That's just about it. If there's something real, it may be more about their chemistry.
Yes they thought JossGawin would fail, but they were proved wrong!
I honestly wish them more luck in getting a great series. I don't want to get obsessed over them. But they are very promising paired together. With their talents, especially Gawin, great voice, they deserve to have more projects and great success in their careers.
Stop this nonsense. You like to speculate too much about their relationship. These are actors trying to build…
I know. That's why I made it a point not to trust my judgment. If you intend to attack me and then hate me, what is the use of this forum if we can't share our observations?
I think we have the right as viewers to say what we observe. I have no intention of bringing delulu fans. LOL. I emphasized that in the post reply to your comment.
I am not against building a strong fandom. It is how these actors get their bread and butter. You do you.
I am here for entertainment.
If my post has irked you, LOL, then would you also call out the creators of vids who have been telling people JossGawin are in a relationship?
This is all for fun. Why are you so serious in calling out people whom you think are antis or critics or even just speculating?
This is the second time that I couldn't sleep until I posted something here. LMAO
I have stumbled upon some vids curated by some obsessed fans about JossGawin in social media. The content is interesting and yet hilarious. There's something I also found out after making comparisons. There is a realness to them that I couldn't find in other BL couples. Yeah, I have mentioned that in my previous post. LOL
I don't really invest much in BL couples. I only watch the BL series and gauge the entertainment quality of the series. So far, I like it though I couldn't give it more than 7. Perhaps, it might change after 12 eps. However, their chemistry is something of a mystery. My reading is that they're very vague but they seem to have feelings for each other. However, this is again a speculation so please don't trust my judgment. However, why I always have that urge to share this is very enigmatic on my part.
They are in show business so everything is just for show. But JossGawin pairing is something. I want to echo some sentiments here that they should be in a better series. What keeps this series very interesting is JossGawin.
While I was watching some JossGawin clips and videos, I noticed that they have been paired for more than a year. So they have been together for quite some time. That is surprising. And there is an interview where Joss said he would only stick with Gawin as the latter has been part of his life, his circle. Sweet.
By the way, a rating of 7.9 is pretty normal for a good series so fans should not fret about it.
If I stay longer with JossGawin, then that means they are real. But I won't bet on them revealing their relationship if they are into each other.
I am really trying to get into this series but I have to say this is the worst acting I have seen from Gawin.…
I commented about their acting being on point. However, they could also use good workshops to improve their acting and interactions. There is a part in ep7 where Gawin can improve and that is when he sought out Joss/Mark after he got choked by Nakan.
They've been using the same formula in Thai BL, mostly GGMTV style. The story, however, has a good direction style and proper sequencing despite the incorporation of flashbacks and even if the budget is dismal. It makes me think that GMMTV didn't trust the JossGawin pairing yet during the production process. I only stick to the romance part in which the director and the team capitalize on their intense, profound and definitely outstanding chemistry. Other than that, I can't expect a groundbreaking storyline and production. Their NC scenes, however, are something to look forward to.
Meanwhile, their interviews are interesting. I thought Gawin would be that boring and cold half of the BL partner. But he was a jolly guy, engaging and smiling. Joss is more insightful in speaking his mind.
Saw this post days ago and I tried to refrain from replying. I checked JossGawin's new interactions and made analyses.…
Got your point. I apologize if I expanded my comment to things totally unrelated to the subject at hand. I was sleepy and lazy to create another post comment other than that.
Some people actually dared to say that Joss and Gawin were too straight to act gay. These preconceived clichés…
Saw this post days ago and I tried to refrain from replying. I checked JossGawin's new interactions and made analyses. Checked this post again. I couldn't sleep until I posted my reply. LOL
I will try to make myself as tactful as possible. Pardon me in advance.
Are Joss and Gawin too straight to act gay in BL series?
Perhaps, yes.
Many BL fans want to find realness in BL couples. As fans of this genre, we can't help it. The delulu minds turn on when we see BL actors paired up and served great chemistry on-screen and off-screen. An actor called out these fans and I agree with him.
BL fans should be smart though. We can't push actors to become real couples especially if one of them is 'straight'. Straight actors are humans who have sexual needs. They will always find sexual satisfaction from the opposite sex. That's why it is tricky to be a straight BL actor because eventually 'fan detectives' and 'antis' will always search that actor's dirty laundry.
And so many fans tend to be more selective in supporting BL actors. But solo stans exist and they will remain to support their fave.
But as for Joss and Gawin's 'straightness'. I don't think it is a good indication to define their sexuality. Are they really straight?
My gaydar buzzes towards G and then J after checking their videos. But they may be bi, queer or fluid. Everything's a speculation at this point. However, one attribute that makes them attractive to BL fans is their masculine attribute.
But honestly though, would you call your good buddy and on-screen partner bro and babe at the same time publicly?
I really think Joss sucks in doing fan service. But if his endearment is just for fan service, then he should be given an award. LMAO
I don't really invest much in BL couples. I always see signs of 'fausse interaction' after months since the ending of the BL couples' BL series. Some even before and during the airing. I appreciate their works, give a little support and after that, move on to other BL series and BL couples. Honestly, this will help fans in preserving their mental health. Obsessing over BL couples, wishing for them to be real seems 'unhealthy'.
But the BL industry thrives on fan service to 'lock in' fans and make them believe in the BL couple's realness. And that's the tricky part. Also, BL fans want to see real love. It's understandable. I had that mindset too until a bucket of cold water was poured upon me.
I really wish for Joss and Gawin to last longer. This series is just a first of many.
Are they real though?
They have that realness. But relationships can be fleeting. It doesn't mean though that they wouldn't last. It is really up to them.
However, Joss regards this as part of his job as an actor. He is smart. He seems to be learning the trade. From his interviews, he plans to lock-in Gawin for the long term. How can he do that?
If I were Joss, I would make Gawin my boyfriend.
Why?
For personal satisfaction and to keep fans from investigating rumored girlfriends. Make the relationship private or at least semi. Drop some crumbs during interviews to keep and even attract new fans. Accept BL series that will showcase their talents. Win some acting awards. Support the BF's concerts by performing together. This will drive more fans and current fans into a crazy state.
Then, attract more fans to the point where international fanbases can be formed. Make the fans believe he and Gawin are great buddies while telling friends to create short vids to make fans believe JG have something going on and may even be in a relationship.
Make it last and make sure to prevent gaffes and hide any blunders successfully.
Everything is tricky from there. They are in show business. Everything is just for show. How long will the fans stick to them?
Each fan must have an answer to this question.
But honestly, if they continue to appear in more BL series with great stories and retain their outstanding chemistry together, I might stick longer. Videos of them traveling together will also help fans stick with them. I think they have that plan as mentioned in one of their interviews.
As for trusting GMMTV, I am not really sure. If they are still able to keep EarthMix, then they might be compelled to keep JossGawin for the long term by giving them projects together.
P.S.
I hope peeps will sense some sarcastic remarks. Apologies if some may get hurt.
Just speculating. I mean homophobes are everywhere.
Anyways, if you ask me about my reading of JossGawin, I would reply that they seem suspicious. But for the sake of not being rude, I would regard it as a supernatural speculation on my part. (I do tarot reading).
This is an era in Thai BL where a bevy of new and still active BL actors is making waves, contributing immensely to Thailand's soft power. It also means, heavy competition. I entered Thai BL during its period of aurora when KristSingto and MaxTul fandoms were competing to attract international fans.
But now, there are many BL couples and actors to follow. It is hard to keep up. I only select those who I believe have quality pairing but it doesn't mean those that I don't pick are not of good quality. EarthMix is a strong BL tandem but I don't stan them. I consider them to be immensely popular, though.
However, JossGawin tandem is a gem. I only realized it last week while checking for new BL series on iQiyi. They have that level of maturity and yet they didn't miss to incorporate playfulness. I initially thought I would get bored. LOL
But the more I watch their interactions, the more I am convinced that they are, I would say, a 'jock couple' or a couple who are athletes that can easily mask their 'seemingly romantic' relationship as just a pair of good buddies who love sports.
Fan service is a staple among BL and GL couples. But Joss is very smart. I admit I am not his fan, initially. I also regarded Gawin a kind of a bore. But he has great acting potential as I first saw him in Dark Blue Kiss. However, the best decision in their lives, perhaps, is to be paired as a BL couple because it is where they can get more fans and could be immensely popular. I am actually rooting for them to be successful and to last longer.
This is a GMMTV production so I don't expect a wonderful storyline with a fantastic plot and uber interesting…
Acting is on point. That is a plus for JossGawin. As for the storyline, I have managed to attune my wavelength to a level where I wouldn't feel any frustration. Again, it is a GMMTV production. One should not expect much. But for fans to jest about the plot holes is totally understandable.
This is a GMMTV production so I don't expect a wonderful storyline with a fantastic plot and uber interesting climax. What it has been serving though is a JossGawin chemistry with extra spicy goodness sans any preservatives.
Not initially a fan of Joss but I can't deny that he is HOT. Gawin, however, is underrated. He is the dorky partner to Joss' stoic seriousness. The result is a pair that I find a mystery, I can't help but conclude that they fit perfectly together.
My Golden Blood is entertaining. But as fans of the pair, we only watch the series mostly because JossGawin is the protagonist couple. I only discovered this series just last week.
Hopefully, JossGawin will last. I stayed away from watching BL series after the retirement of my fave couples including OhmNanon and MilesApo. The only pair I managed to deduce and thankfully resulted in a happy ending is MewTul.
But JossGawin is sus after a reading. They have the aura of being ______. Don't be delusional though. These actors value their privacy. But of course, as BL fans, we covertly wish for them to be together in real life or at least what some fans wish until some homophobic idiots kill the mood and cause chaos.
this was actually so good the ratings being this low does not make sense the story might be another college story…
The rating is not bad. If it is below 5, then the producers should reconsider producing the series. But I agree that the low rating has something to do with the subtitles for international fans. They already promoted this in 2021 but they are not yet keen on hiring proper translators. The AI translation on WeTV is left to be desired.
Such a great overview. I don't know what the naysayers were watching.
BL viewers should see each BL series as art. Most BL audiences now are stuck with fandoms to support their faves. They already set benchmarks in the BL industry whenever there is a popular BL series that somehow eclipses other BL series' popularity. I used to have that mindset. But as an artist, it is important for me to broaden the scope of artistic filmmaking. In this case, it is a series that does not really outshine other BL series but it can still manage to deliver delightful experiences and feels to certain viewers. Hence, I still regard it as a gem that shines and brings characters that some viewers come to love.
"Stop this nonsense. You like to speculate too much about their relationship. These are actors trying to build a strong fandom around them, and they're succeeding."
People speculate that's why casinos, stock markets, and even Golden Derby--speculating on who and which movies will win in the Oscars-- exist.
He erased his other comments. Not sure why. But if speculation is wrong, then by all means, be like Trump, who will deport anyone he dislikes to El Salvador. LMAO
It seems this fandom is too authoritarian. HAHAHA
Anyways, it also rubbed me the wrong way since I'm gay and her comment seems 'homophobic'.
It makes me think that it is wrong for two guys to be in love on set in the BL industry. And that only straight actors (male and female partners) are allowed to become real-life couples after being onscreen partners. What a fuck-up industry it is then. You are promoting gay love, but you have a sort of abhorrence when some people think something is going on between the male actors. The entertainment industry thrives on speculations, too.
FYI, as an observer of the BL industry for over a decade now, the 'delulu' fans are more likely to promote BL couples and their materials more than the casual fans, and are more likely to buy and consume merchandise, tickets, magazines and other materials. That is why the industry stakeholders from agencies and managers and even the actors capitalize on the emotional buying patterns of these 'delulu' fans. This is a capitalistic industry, people. These actors and their handlers profit from the fans to make a living. Where else should they get money from aside from the sponsors? Even the sponsors will have to gauge if the BL actors have a large following to sell their products and services.
Idiots and bishes forget the definitions of 'fans', fanatics and fanaticism. I don't have to lecture you about that.
I have the tendency to speculate about a select BL couple, but I am not a fan of any BL couples after the airing of their BL series. So far, the Untamed and KinnPorsche are the only BL series I regard as masterpieces, but I don't feel a sort of fanaticism over the actors. As a gay man, I really think the BL industry outside the series is selling fake gay relationships. If MewTul have their series together, then it will be a blessing to the BL industry.
As for JossGawin, their realness offscreen is more of a speculation. But idiots are too emotional to think that they thought I was endangering the careers of their faves. You are contributing to the demise of their careers by becoming a sort of BL police instead.
Anyway, JossGawin will become a golden couple. They have the right recipes. They are mature and seem to know more about the BL industry.
I admire their acting and talents. That's just about it. If there's something real, it may be more about their chemistry.
Bring your political correctness somewhere.
Idiots should know the boundaries between fun and entertainment and then politics. You are always bringing politics in entertainment forums.
I like them. I only want to share what I have observed and have read. If this is a crime, then sue me.
I think we have the right as viewers to say what we observe. I have no intention of bringing delulu fans. LOL. I emphasized that in the post reply to your comment.
I am not against building a strong fandom. It is how these actors get their bread and butter. You do you.
I am here for entertainment.
If my post has irked you, LOL, then would you also call out the creators of vids who have been telling people JossGawin are in a relationship?
This is all for fun. Why are you so serious in calling out people whom you think are antis or critics or even just speculating?
I have stumbled upon some vids curated by some obsessed fans about JossGawin in social media. The content is interesting and yet hilarious. There's something I also found out after making comparisons. There is a realness to them that I couldn't find in other BL couples. Yeah, I have mentioned that in my previous post. LOL
I don't really invest much in BL couples. I only watch the BL series and gauge the entertainment quality of the series. So far, I like it though I couldn't give it more than 7. Perhaps, it might change after 12 eps. However, their chemistry is something of a mystery. My reading is that they're very vague but they seem to have feelings for each other. However, this is again a speculation so please don't trust my judgment. However, why I always have that urge to share this is very enigmatic on my part.
They are in show business so everything is just for show. But JossGawin pairing is something. I want to echo some sentiments here that they should be in a better series. What keeps this series very interesting is JossGawin.
While I was watching some JossGawin clips and videos, I noticed that they have been paired for more than a year. So they have been together for quite some time. That is surprising. And there is an interview where Joss said he would only stick with Gawin as the latter has been part of his life, his circle. Sweet.
By the way, a rating of 7.9 is pretty normal for a good series so fans should not fret about it.
If I stay longer with JossGawin, then that means they are real. But I won't bet on them revealing their relationship if they are into each other.
Meanwhile, their interviews are interesting. I thought Gawin would be that boring and cold half of the BL partner. But he was a jolly guy, engaging and smiling. Joss is more insightful in speaking his mind.
I will try to make myself as tactful as possible. Pardon me in advance.
Are Joss and Gawin too straight to act gay in BL series?
Perhaps, yes.
Many BL fans want to find realness in BL couples. As fans of this genre, we can't help it. The delulu minds turn on when we see BL actors paired up and served great chemistry on-screen and off-screen. An actor called out these fans and I agree with him.
BL fans should be smart though. We can't push actors to become real couples especially if one of them is 'straight'. Straight actors are humans who have sexual needs. They will always find sexual satisfaction from the opposite sex. That's why it is tricky to be a straight BL actor because eventually 'fan detectives' and 'antis' will always search that actor's dirty laundry.
And so many fans tend to be more selective in supporting BL actors. But solo stans exist and they will remain to support their fave.
But as for Joss and Gawin's 'straightness'. I don't think it is a good indication to define their sexuality. Are they really straight?
My gaydar buzzes towards G and then J after checking their videos. But they may be bi, queer or fluid. Everything's a speculation at this point. However, one attribute that makes them attractive to BL fans is their masculine attribute.
But honestly though, would you call your good buddy and on-screen partner bro and babe at the same time publicly?
I really think Joss sucks in doing fan service. But if his endearment is just for fan service, then he should be given an award. LMAO
I don't really invest much in BL couples. I always see signs of 'fausse interaction' after months since the ending of the BL couples' BL series. Some even before and during the airing. I appreciate their works, give a little support and after that, move on to other BL series and BL couples. Honestly, this will help fans in preserving their mental health. Obsessing over BL couples, wishing for them to be real seems 'unhealthy'.
But the BL industry thrives on fan service to 'lock in' fans and make them believe in the BL couple's realness. And that's the tricky part. Also, BL fans want to see real love. It's understandable. I had that mindset too until a bucket of cold water was poured upon me.
I really wish for Joss and Gawin to last longer. This series is just a first of many.
Are they real though?
They have that realness. But relationships can be fleeting. It doesn't mean though that they wouldn't last. It is really up to them.
However, Joss regards this as part of his job as an actor. He is smart. He seems to be learning the trade. From his interviews, he plans to lock-in Gawin for the long term. How can he do that?
If I were Joss, I would make Gawin my boyfriend.
Why?
For personal satisfaction and to keep fans from investigating rumored girlfriends. Make the relationship private or at least semi. Drop some crumbs during interviews to keep and even attract new fans. Accept BL series that will showcase their talents. Win some acting awards. Support the BF's concerts by performing together. This will drive more fans and current fans into a crazy state.
Then, attract more fans to the point where international fanbases can be formed. Make the fans believe he and Gawin are great buddies while telling friends to create short vids to make fans believe JG have something going on and may even be in a relationship.
Make it last and make sure to prevent gaffes and hide any blunders successfully.
Everything is tricky from there. They are in show business. Everything is just for show. How long will the fans stick to them?
Each fan must have an answer to this question.
But honestly, if they continue to appear in more BL series with great stories and retain their outstanding chemistry together, I might stick longer. Videos of them traveling together will also help fans stick with them. I think they have that plan as mentioned in one of their interviews.
As for trusting GMMTV, I am not really sure. If they are still able to keep EarthMix, then they might be compelled to keep JossGawin for the long term by giving them projects together.
P.S.
I hope peeps will sense some sarcastic remarks. Apologies if some may get hurt.
As for their career success, it is very possible if they use their cards very well. They are both mature people.
Anyways, if you ask me about my reading of JossGawin, I would reply that they seem suspicious. But for the sake of not being rude, I would regard it as a supernatural speculation on my part. (I do tarot reading).
This is an era in Thai BL where a bevy of new and still active BL actors is making waves, contributing immensely to Thailand's soft power. It also means, heavy competition. I entered Thai BL during its period of aurora when KristSingto and MaxTul fandoms were competing to attract international fans.
But now, there are many BL couples and actors to follow. It is hard to keep up. I only select those who I believe have quality pairing but it doesn't mean those that I don't pick are not of good quality. EarthMix is a strong BL tandem but I don't stan them. I consider them to be immensely popular, though.
However, JossGawin tandem is a gem. I only realized it last week while checking for new BL series on iQiyi. They have that level of maturity and yet they didn't miss to incorporate playfulness. I initially thought I would get bored. LOL
But the more I watch their interactions, the more I am convinced that they are, I would say, a 'jock couple' or a couple who are athletes that can easily mask their 'seemingly romantic' relationship as just a pair of good buddies who love sports.
Fan service is a staple among BL and GL couples. But Joss is very smart. I admit I am not his fan, initially. I also regarded Gawin a kind of a bore. But he has great acting potential as I first saw him in Dark Blue Kiss. However, the best decision in their lives, perhaps, is to be paired as a BL couple because it is where they can get more fans and could be immensely popular. I am actually rooting for them to be successful and to last longer.
Not initially a fan of Joss but I can't deny that he is HOT. Gawin, however, is underrated. He is the dorky partner to Joss' stoic seriousness. The result is a pair that I find a mystery, I can't help but conclude that they fit perfectly together.
My Golden Blood is entertaining. But as fans of the pair, we only watch the series mostly because JossGawin is the protagonist couple. I only discovered this series just last week.
Hopefully, JossGawin will last. I stayed away from watching BL series after the retirement of my fave couples including OhmNanon and MilesApo. The only pair I managed to deduce and thankfully resulted in a happy ending is MewTul.
But JossGawin is sus after a reading. They have the aura of being ______. Don't be delusional though. These actors value their privacy. But of course, as BL fans, we covertly wish for them to be together in real life or at least what some fans wish until some homophobic idiots kill the mood and cause chaos.
So far, the story is intriguing. But the comedic quality is really good.