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I get what you're saying. It would be reductive to say that these BL shows are just fantasies when they can be instruments for representation of the LGBTQ community. But then these shows are taken from the perspectives of certain authors. It's just that its value is supplemented by actors with supposed commercial value. And then the pairing and the chemistry, in which in the perspectives of fans, they have this "x factor" wherein they could find certain kind of emotional solace in specific states they are in. What I know is that some shippers find satisfaction when they see two people in love. In the case of BL, the shippers may find satisfaction when they see the actors being in love or in a relationship. It would be hypocritical of me to deny that factor considering I also ship certain people but not that overly that it would lead to provocation.

I know right. The fan service can be too intense. I don't really follow all BL actors. I've watched MaxTul because I have a crush on Tul but I have never ever fantasized to be with Tul. LOL. It's just that they have this bromo chemistry and sometimes I wonder if they really are life partners. But then again, it's BL. There's that reality and I sometimes loathe to speculate. My job does entail analytical thinking and I sometimes apply it when watching BL. But I'd rather enjoy gay youtubers and their reality shows with their real-life partners such as Matt and Blue and Zach and Alistair than figuring out those Thai actors. I actually had hiatus on watching Thai BL. I didn't even finish watching Together With Me: Next Chapter despite my desire to support MaxTul. Perhaps. it's because of certain issues with the industry (and MewArt) until I watched the first trailer of TharnType, to my surprise.

I also watch Dark Blue Kiss but TayNew is more like best friends for me. The fantasy of shipping them is taken to another level with them in the top billing of this BL show.

I am with you on that. Some people can't really understand privacy. I am a shipper myself but I am not too hardcore nor I even delude myself that there's something going on between two actors unless there are incidents or acts or even media that would corroborate a theory about their romantic involvement. I may be hypocritical though since I believe in a certain ship but that's outside of BL.

As for Thai BL, well... Thailand is a paradise of gay people so uhm... where do I start here. And there's a report that it will pass a bill legalizing same-sex civil union. Yey!

The entertainment industry is filled with people in the LGBTQ spectrum. I want to imply something here It's just that I feel that people will not really open their minds on certain statistics.

Anyways....

Apologies for the long post. I got carried away. I made use of the time before I had to do my obligations for today.

Anyways, I have to consider a factor that those who spread that kind of post regarding the actor's sexuality may be from competition. Even if we consider those posts coming from the fans of Mew, but still they fail to factor logical reasoning ( i was accused of being delusional and lack of logical reasoning when they thought that the evidence of the girl can be accessed easily) They failed to consider an element: the preponderance of evidence or the element of the evidence's credibility applying different logical techniques from known philosophers. Anyways, that's too mind-boggling. I would stick to the premise that everything they see in the social media can be ground for speculation unless known facts are shown tangibly and not concealed. As the adage always says, a picture is worth a thousand words.

And if we consider the factor that there's really a girlfriend, I would gain my respect to the actor for being transparent enough unless there's a clause, sentence or phrase in the contract that would require concealment or nonexistence of a girlfriend or any lover as it would be construed as detrimental considering the required intimacy the actors would have to engage and be involved in for the sake of art.

I sometimes wonder about the girl knowing that his boyfriend would have to go through workshops and rehearsals that would require various forms of intimacy with a gay/bi actor but with certain limitations. Some gay-for-pay porn actors have gf's and wives but I always feel they're shams.

I really like episode 4 and I have many points I have to share. But yes, I am with you when you complain about how fast the storyline is. Somehow, the artistic direction has something o do with it.

Anyways, what I want to share may involve certain issues based on my recent altercation on YT comment section.

First, as fans, we don't have the right to be the mouthpieces of the actors unless you have the official "authority" to do so. This comes from certain posts that argue on the sexuality of the actors especially on Gulf and his "girlfriend". In these modern times in the entertainment industry, to say that an actor is straight by default is already a fallacy considering that he has acted in gay romances. I have to cite Gale Harold, the main lead in Queer as Folk and Jack Falahee who plays a gay character in How to Get Away with Murder. It took years for these actors to issue their statement of their sexuality after the first airing of their respective shows. Fans continue to speculate their sexuality. Alas, they made their statement and I believe some are not really glad with it but that's reality.

Now, in the case of TharnType, there are posts that claim of Gulf being "straight". Mostly, these posts are replies in comments that want the leads to be real-life couple. Again, if you have the authority to do so to be the mouthpiece for the actor, then by all means, take that privilege and use it wisely. But if you are using troll accounts and continue to insult those who oppose your view, then that's a different story. The recent altercation stemmed from that premise because the "troll" continues to give the IG account of the "girlfriend". Like damn, aside from having no consent to be the "spokesperson", they continue to provide an avenue that would harm a certain party. Please, practice discretion even if your intention is to protect the actor, in this case, Mew.

I also mentioned that fans should not dictate the actors on who and who not to love. They are adults with discernment. Fans can suggest but they can't dictate the actors. But some fans--I don't know, if they really are fans or just trolls-- continue to do just that.

Also, I have to return to the premise that involves the sexuality of the actors. Even though I included in the comments/replies here that Mew is part of the LGBTQ community but I never mentioned that he was gay or bi. That left for speculation. But the fact is that the actor belongs to the community through certain verifiable proof. Now, if a troll wants to use the IG of a "girlfriend" to make it a proof of Gulf's sexuality, then that troll also gives an impetus for others to do certain acts that may constitute harm towards the girl. Shippers can be hardcore fans and some can't control their emotions. People should learn on what happened with a BL actor of Make it Right and his girlfriend.

Yes, the BL industry is very far from being perfect. it has its toxicity. If it continues to feed off fantasies to the shippers, then it would take time for this kind of issue to be remedied.

Secondly, I am vocal with my stance that the BL industry should have real-life couples as two main leads. I have to cite certain factors why I come up with this kind of conviction.

1) Shippers continue to fantasize the actors who are main leads to be real-life couples. This is what happened with Krist-Singto. Despite them issuing statements of their sexuality, fans still continue to ship them. No problem with it--at first. But those who may discover them belatedly may think they're in some sort of relationship. I am not really following them but I still see fan-made vids analyzing their moves that may constitute they're in a secret relationship.

2) The thing with BL actors is that their relevance as actors may diminish when they're partnered with other actors outside of the original tandem. But this is just observation and can be debunked if the popular actor is paired with another actor and the tandem radiates palpable chemistry in which the fans can't help but be amazed... again. But then a BL actor when paired with a female lead may not be considered relevant in the BL genre, apparent as it seems. This is in the case for the international fans.

The BL industry has already found the factors that would give them commercial value and bankability for the actors. In other words, the players of the BL industry have already gotten the formula. This is at the expense of the shippers. This theory of sort is also seen in Hollywood. That's why there are actors who are bankable in certain genre of movies and they would continue to do movies in that genre if the stories are great. Take for example the actors of Marvel Superheroes. Robert Downey, Jr. and Iron Man have become synonymous with each other. When we talk of Iron Man, we immediately refer it to Robert Downey, Jr, who has become one of the most bankable actors in Hollywood because of this role. A former matinee idol, Downey regained his relevance in Hollywood because of that role. Taking that analogy, the Thai BL actors become relevant because of their roles in BL series. Even if we say that the acting should be given importance and priority but our view on this matter may be different to the producers. it's not only about acting prowess but also commercial value of the actors and return of investments (ROI) for them. We are living in a world with harsh realities.

Taking that theory mentioned into mind, my conviction for having a real-life BL couple in the acting screens is because of visibility of the gay/bi actors and the notion that gay relationships also work outside of the digital screens. When people always see the straight actors acting out the gay roles in BL shows, there's always that notion that gay romance as portrayed in the BL series is just fantasy and that gays are always left with the stigma of being HIV/AIDS victims and, worst, promiscuity.

If they really want to capitalize on gay romances, then the industry should provide better representation of certain characters who belong to a certain community. It's not just about acting but also proper representation of a certain demographic that not just involves locales but also international. It seems that some people don't get that. I somehow liken certain behaviors of consumers of BL to a certain fetish of some straight men, who like to see two girls getting it on screen. But when they realize that these girls are lesbian girlfriends, the homophobic mode is on. That's what I've observed on some of those straight shippers. Some are already ingrained with the notion that the actors are just doing their job and are really straight in real life. They use the straight by default in sexuality theory. And I think this mindset is more apparent to those females who have the same fetish as those straight men. The same can be said to those who have gay friends but would eventually turn down the right of having gay marriage legalized because they believe it's not right. Like DAMN. The HYPOCRISY stinks really bad.

And that's why I feel like the BL industry should do things right for the gay community. It seems this problem is taken not very seriously and it's just for them a money-making venture.

I get that BL industry's main target are the straight shippers now but that theory is still debatable. But then I feel like there's discrimination on this matter. It's become problematic.

I really expected for the presence of a girl in this series as it would come as an interesting plot. It could prick our hearts though as we watched Tharn getting hurt. But I am also interested on how they would deal this kind of situation.

I think we have seen Type's reaction after the shower. And Tharn continued to taunt him leading Type to kick the former on the gut.

And I think, we have seen on episode 4 how Type can be pragmatic and logical in that kind of situation. He had the "fuck the world" attitude when he was faced with that kind of situation.

Thank you very much. I am interested in TharnType 7th year. I pray they will have a sequel of the series with this one. College is a start of something great or a roller coaster ride for the characters.

Also, I agree about Mew. He has this charisma onscreen that is very appealing. Even in WTD, I am okay whoever he ends up with.

Even I initially found that he and Art had chemistry, but I see something that would really make Mew stand out from his partner. Even in his recent pairing with Gulf, I see that he would always stand out. But Gulf is also making his credibility as a new actor increasingly apparent. Pairing Mew and Gulf is very auspicious for the producers of the show. I haven't seen this kind of chemistry to be very astounding in BL, even I have to compare it with Max and Tul in Bad Romance where the latter couple's rookie acting is still shown yet understandable in certain respect.

Mew and Gulf pairing is really fortunate. Perhaps, the producers really see something in them beyond the commercial value.

I have to agree about Gulf. He is a rare gem for a rookie actor. I feel like it has something to do with their chemistry. Any rookie actor won't be that good if his on-screen partner is a shit in personality. Mew and Gulf are a successful pairing.

I really think they made a cut on the second sex scene. Basing from the post-coital glow and their faces (and somehow exhaustion after rounds of sex) which really made me think they actually did the deed, I think they did a cut on that part.

And this review of the recent episode says most of what I want to share about TharnType and MewGulf: https://psycho-milk.com/2019/10/29/tharntype-episode4/

It's really rare for me to be this supportive to a BL series. I have supported Maxtul but not this kind of level where I have to consume MewGulf vid content like an obsessed fan. I analyze their pairing though and really want to see how far they can go. I am more of a critic than a fan. But lately, I've been equally leveling to a critic-fan spectrum. Their chemistry is incredible. They really have that couple vibe, which I can't see in other Thai BL couples.

And that's why I didn't continue watching Lovesick despite it being recommended by my friends who are also gay. MaxTul's chemistry may have pushed the envelope for other BL stories to be more daring. Even though we can see the absence of some steamy gay kiss scenes in Bad Romance, MaxTul managed to let go of their inhibitions and got to be more brazen enough to portray what gay kiss/simulated sex scenes can be in BL in their succeeding series with them in the top billing.

As for MewGulf, it's even more promising. Perhaps, because of Mew's acting and sexuality that there's more to this series or even to this BL couple. Til is also rumoured to have a boyfriend outside of MaxTul pairing but I think I see this issue as a PR tactic.

Anyways, I have been saying this recently that a BL couple in BL series would be the most successful out of the competition if the actors are a real-life couple in this age of social media. They will be a power to reckon with considering they can be popular on YT and other platforms as well as very good in acting. Think of Matt and Blue who are both in the entertainment industry but in Asia and both are really good actors. BL couple can be even more popular, I believe. Just noting the consumers of BL content, it's just a factor for a BL couple to avail beyond the fan service. Authenticity now is another key to have.

Perhaps, he had to wear it because his shirt may have been soaking wet from the copulation.

I believe we have an idea that having a girl in between in this kind of relationship is just a test to the sexuality of any of the couple. Well, Tharn is 100% gay. This kind of plot can make things interesting though. I just pray that those girls are lesbian gfs so at least Type will have another perspective of what being gay entails.

Tharn really knows how to perform sexual healing. It's apparent on the recent attitude of Type towards it. And FYI, there's what we call sexual healing and it works. The technique though would require a teacher to do that.

Moreover, from that episode, I can infer that Tharn is also a victim of sexual abuse. Perhaps, it's on how he can empathize easily to Type's PTSD and predicament.

To say that Type is straight is debatable. Can a straight guy be so willing to take it up in the ass?

For the naysayers and haters out there, the recent episode of this series should somehow shed some light on certain issues concerning Type.

I like the way they've delivered it though--not dragging, just enough pacing-- although I understand some would complain again about the pacing and the timeline. I also question that but I think it has something to do with the artistic direction of this series. Let us consider a certain fact that they have to compress several chapters in 12/13 episodes so they have to employ efficient means to make it possible.

I'm actually curious about Champ's intention.is he harboring a crush towards Tharn? I have not read the entire novel, only those parts with eng trans posted by JayBL. But I'm curious how many guys Type would have to fight with to gain exclusive affection from Tharn.