There must be some serious subliminal messaging laced into this show, because every Monday my brain lights up like a Christmas tree, and I get genuinely excited for the Tuesday 😂 Bring me your clearest potion of pure chaos! I want to have a full facial in it's steam 😂
I’ve been hypnotised. I have to have been. I'm always subconciously reminded of werewolves whenever I'm greeted with Omegaverse, but then someone here pointed out that everyone’s hair is styled in a dishevelled, mess on purpose to mimic the fur of a feral animal ..... and now I can't unsee it 🐺
Although I think I'm one of the few that likes Boat's hair anyway. As long as there is no crimper, by all means, load up on that hairspray 😚 and stay away from fire
It’s either A - the Alpha of Dark Romance. That lingering, romantic pull of dark fantasy holding me cocooned in its black talons that I can never escape from
or...
B for the Beast that is Boat, the beastman and his gleamingly smooth chesticles. Those nipples were swirling in my face in full HD and I may have lost all higher brain function. He's a manly man, a fabulously voluptuous werewolf blueprint, but if his shoulders get any bigger, we may both explode and I'd hate to see it ...
The BoatOat gravity is real 🫠 and I am plummeting off this cliff with them, it would seem ☕✨🖤😂
I have completely left my body and it's ok 😭 I'm fine
yeah, those are my thoughts exactly as I was watching. Seems like he’s destined to be the villain in this If…
Ive only just watched the trailer on iQIYI 😂 It does seem like it's going to ship in that direction, with alot of egos being the big obstacles, but, at least from the trailer, it seems like it will try to maintain the general light heartedness we seen in ep 1.
Ok, I'm interested. It's got a very classic Domundi feel, to go with all those familiar faces, but it could get catty later 😼 I wonder if Nine is going to be a hidden enemy in the end? He seems like he's positioned to be the celeb who's addicted to the attention and applause, more than the art. How will he react, when the attention is taken off him later?
I had an unrelenting urge to hand everyone a tissue but not for the reason it should have been .. esp Ongsa... Poor kid was pouring his whole soul into Tin's grief, and all I could focus on was the tragic, milky crime scene unfolding around his chin and lips 🥲 Uhhh, hey, make up department, no one caught that? A pretty little embroidered hankerchief, would also have worked.
It would be wonderful, if I could watch the finale, without these god awful quality issues, that have utterly plagued this whole damn show .... every .... single....episode .... and it's not my side because everything else, is working just fkn dandy .....
This was full-throttle disappointment. What happens when stoned scriptwriters ran out of ideas
Somebody was under the influence of something 🥲
Although a hallucination usually has some coherent imagery. This feels more like trolling. The whole 2026 arc has been abysmally lacklustre. They just wanted to clock out for the day and go home, so they threw a few darts onto the board of OG plot corners, and said, yeah, that'll fill the time.
A TV or film adaptation is a visual translation of written work, often acting as a standalone piece. It's not a reading assignment.
And even then, knowing a plot point exists in the novel does not prepare you when the visual storytellers handle it in such a shit manner. Novel readers are saying this is not even how it unfolds in the original idea. 🤷♀️
The frustration I feel isn't so much "ahh crap, amnesia trope." It's the impending anxiety of "ahh crap, amnesia trope with a meddling plot ghost, with still an unclear motive, who has been brought back specifically to make us speed run through all the problems we've already seen, and we have 2 episodes left"
It doesn't exactly fill me with much excitement for the finale. All enthusiasm gutted.
I was expecting Edge of Horizon finale to depress me this weekend but Heaven continues to lay it's random and ever chaotic sense of humour at my feet. Bring it on InnOngsa, I'm not afraid of you!! 👊😖🦋
OMG THIS!! I felt so furious watching this episode, I had to stop every few minutes. And take a breath to calm…
I find there is a distinction between the two shows. I too, had high hopes for Knot, but it thankfully handed in it's resignation at ep. 2, so I treat it like the circus it is. I just grab a snack and point and laugh as it steam rolls in every direction.
Dont Be Too Emotional is a bait and switch tactic, that always feels like a betrayal to me when I see it.
It earned my attention and trust, for 6 weeks. I was fully invested. They laid out the foundation, the nuances of the characters, dangled the pyschology like a carrot and then hit us right in the face with a baseball bat.
According to the above reply, the original source has complicated, human material to work from, and for some reason, they've thrown it all away to meet some bizarre trope quota. Watching a show youve genuinely been excited about lobotomize it's self is sad
OMG THIS!! I felt so furious watching this episode, I had to stop every few minutes. And take a breath to calm…
I'm hyper focusing on color coding just to take my mind of the wreckage.
A second rerun of the exact same Arc 1 challenges, seriously? A hamster wheel is only cute when there's an actual hamster in it. The complete lack of any creative thought is painful. I ask myself what anyone was thinking when they OK’d this script, but that naively implies anyone was thinking at all. The approval meeting must have just been a rubber stamp falling onto the contract and they had to go with it.
I'm completing it because I've enjoyed it to so intensely for the first half, and I can add it to the 52 week challenge, but I'm not hopeful that it will be added to a Recommended list. I'm very disheartened.
Unfortunately, that amnesia scene was actually adapted straight from the novel. I completely understand your rage…
I haven’t read the novel, but the exact second I saw Little Jane unbuckle that seatbelt and the camera locked onto that front facing frame, I knew.
And your context actually makes me angrier. You’re telling me there was real psychological stew sitting right there in the source material, and these writers chose to throw it all out just to keep "happy families," a bratty brother, a convenient nuisance, of whom drama watchers still know nothing of, and a finale amnesia plot for the third arc? They are speed running through nearly every trash trope I despise.
I was willing to be lenient with the slow sinking of the plot earlier on, but absolutely not this time. Titanic's lights are out and the engines just blew up.
Next week, some semblance of sanity isn't restored, I am burning my rating to the ground.
💢💢💢 To whoever decided to dump gasoline on all that delicate character growth and set it ablaze for cheap drama; I hope both sides of your pillow are forever warm for the rest of your days. You deserve a stern slap to the back of the head for that decision, along with every executive in that writers' room who nodded along and said, "Yes, that sounds like a great stretch to 12 episodes, because there are no more ideas on the board"
And to anyone in the audience currently purging this show from their watchlist, I will personally light the torches and hand out the maps to the exit. I wouldn't blame a single one of you.
I’ve been genuinely loving this show. It’s been my absolute #1 weekly watch, so to hit us with not only a fourth breakup, but a ragebait amnesia trope, at terminal velocity speed, right at the finish line? Absolute narrative blasphemy.
The rage I feel is very real, and it stings.
To make matters worse, we’re dragging slimeball Dan back out of whatever oblivion he’s been idling in, just to let him rewrite history for cheap, artificial tension. And his parents are probably going to allow it because suddenly they’re terrified of Big Jane.
They have been so aggressively useless the entire show. Sitting there, sipping tea, and mumbling three words per episode like decorative furniture. Jamie had more narrative purpose than those two combined, and Jamie was barely holding on with his epipen.
"You sold your house to him, remember?"
Yes, Dan, and someone had better mention the 10 MILLION baht debt that Big Jane offered to handle before I lose my Fae mind and telepathically flip every single table in that writers' room.
The only saving grace in this entire dumpster fire of a writing choice is Jet’s actual character growth. He had better, on this green earth, step up and defend Big Jane next week. That entire friend group, after sitting there clapping like seal pups, better execute a full scale intervention, because fuming is not the word I'm scrambling for right now.
An amnesia plot belongs in the midpoint, approx episodes 7 through 9, so the narrative has room to breathe, heal, and earn its resolution. Slapping it onto the finale is just disrespectful and lazy designed to farm outrage. And yes, congratulations, I am angry, and rate your show down immediately. A non-negotiable full point docked right there.
I might just banish next week to the void, and watch it together with ep 12, the following week when the dust clears, because absolutely not.
I think I need a curry tonight. A Dragon's Breath curry, to incinerate this episode from my mind 💀 If I survive, it'll still be a better plot resolution than whatever the fuck that was. 🐉🌶️🔥
**Stomps off with my baby dragon, like a tiny, angry flamethrower**
A random bisexual disaster dropping in some reflections.
No one is really right or wrong here, because the whole dynamic of this show relies on audience bias. Characters like the two Janes are mirrors. They both share the same name to mimic a Yin and Yang or a fire and water dynamic, showing how these traits are detrimental to our happiness when out of control, but how they can balance each other out when they are tamed and guided.
Intentional or not from the writer, boxing them into 'who is the red flag?' flattens what is a really interesting study in coping mechanisms.
(Trust me, I'm an emotional mess myself *twitch 🐇twitch*)
☆Big Jane isn't an evil villain, but him saying "it's part of the deal" isn't a 'get out of jail free' card either.
I love Big Jane, he's my bias here, but it's okay to point out when he's being a slippery little goldfish 😂
Running a favor trade where you hold all the cards over desperate people and hide behind terms and conditions is a defense mechanism.
☆ It's never fully specified what he gets in return, but remember that girl? Yes, she was wrong. She asked for help, BJ refused her, and so she got beaten up by her boyfriend and dragged off while her university watched. Big Jane's reaction was essentially, "Oh well, she deserved it. Let's have steak." 😂 Is domestic violence ever the right answer? Or how, my favourite, when he told Little Jane, 'I didnt lie to you, I just havent told you yet' 😂 That's called a half truth, and it is manipulation.
Slippery little cod 🐟😂
☆ His entire worldview, that everything is a contract, a give and take, is a red flag. Big Jane is, on paper, a red flag. He uses strict transactions so he never has to be vulnerable or feel empathy. It's his own calculated self preservation mechanism. His phrase. "Don't be too emotional. I agree to your request. Here are my terms, abide by them, and what happens afterward is on you. I don't care, I did my part, I'm not responsible."
☆ In my neck of the woods, that's uncontrolled fire. A spark that will, one day, burn your house down.
So Little Jane's reaction is also right, Hey Babe, this will come back to bite you. Indirect harm will always come back when desperate people get angry at you, and I am worried.
☆ On the other side of the coin, Little Jane isn't a saint either. He's trapped in his own altruism.
He tries to play the moral hero, but he has no boundaries and struggles to defend them when he does try e.g at work when his colleagues were turning him into their secretary (which LJ admitted also happened at his previous bank job).
☆ Little Jane is the water, like a little trickling stream with the potential to be a flowing river, but he keeps draining all the water out of himself. Sacrificing your own desires, getting manipulated by friends like Put, and running yourself dry to put out everyone else's fire isn't "pure kindness", that's emotional dysfunction in your heart space. To be needed and wanted so desperately. But how do you pour from an empty jug? A person who can't hold a boundary or say "no" will eventually harm themselves.
*raises hand* It's not pleasant. And it messes with your head a lot because your ego truly believes you are doing the right thing.
☆ Remember their business class talk about takers, givers, and matchers? Little Jane himself admitted to BJ earlier that he loves how BJ makes him feel important and needed because LJ is always the one giving to others. So now he takes from BJ, reversing his usual life dynamic in his romantic life.
Obviously, LJ isn't going to live in a mansion while his family flounders, but leaving BJ on read will only exasperate an already delicate trust. They are both disasters at opposite ends of the spectrum.
☆ Neither of those strategies works for a healthy relationship, which is what makes watching them crash into each other, and hopefully work it out. such a compelling watch 😂
I'm scared to click post and see how long this is 😂 Pffftt woahhh 😂
How do you guys distract yourselves until the next episode comes out? I genuinely can’t take it anymore 😭…
When I spend all week watching the clock, it genuinely impacts the rest of my week. An entire 7 days of my life, becomes a struggle just waiting for a 50 minute slot.
The kindest thing you can do for yourself is to have a buffer. Watch other shows, enjoy other hobbies and activities outside of the internet. Breaking up the time gives your brain a rest, and the wait easier instead of one long, exhausting marathon 🍵✨
Bring me your clearest potion of pure chaos! I want to have a full facial in it's steam 😂
I’ve been hypnotised. I have to have been. I'm always subconciously reminded of werewolves whenever I'm greeted with Omegaverse, but then someone here pointed out that everyone’s hair is styled in a dishevelled, mess on purpose to mimic the fur of a feral animal ..... and now I can't unsee it 🐺
Although I think I'm one of the few that likes Boat's hair anyway. As long as there is no crimper, by all means, load up on that hairspray 😚 and stay away from fire
It’s either A - the Alpha of Dark Romance. That lingering, romantic pull of dark fantasy holding me cocooned in its black talons that I can never escape from
or...
B for the Beast that is Boat, the beastman and his gleamingly smooth chesticles. Those nipples were swirling in my face in full HD and I may have lost all higher brain function. He's a manly man, a fabulously voluptuous werewolf blueprint, but if his shoulders get any bigger, we may both explode and I'd hate to see it ...
The BoatOat gravity is real 🫠 and I am plummeting off this cliff with them, it would seem ☕✨🖤😂
I have completely left my body and it's ok 😭 I'm fine
It does seem like it's going to ship in that direction, with alot of egos being the big obstacles, but, at least from the trailer, it seems like it will try to maintain the general light heartedness we seen in ep 1.
I wonder if Nine is going to be a hidden enemy in the end? He seems like he's positioned to be the celeb who's addicted to the attention and applause, more than the art. How will he react, when the attention is taken off him later?
Hmm 😏
Boys....stop ....
😂 smooth. Got to cross those corporate promotions first ✨️
Poor kid was pouring his whole soul into Tin's grief, and all I could focus on was the tragic, milky crime scene unfolding around his chin and lips 🥲
Uhhh, hey, make up department, no one caught that? A pretty little embroidered hankerchief, would also have worked.
Although a hallucination usually has some coherent imagery. This feels more like trolling. The whole 2026 arc has been abysmally lacklustre.
They just wanted to clock out for the day and go home, so they threw a few darts onto the board of OG plot corners, and said, yeah, that'll fill the time.
And even then, knowing a plot point exists in the novel does not prepare you when the visual storytellers handle it in such a shit manner. Novel readers are saying this is not even how it unfolds in the original idea. 🤷♀️
The frustration I feel isn't so much "ahh crap, amnesia trope." It's the impending anxiety of "ahh crap, amnesia trope with a meddling plot ghost, with still an unclear motive, who has been brought back specifically to make us speed run through all the problems we've already seen, and we have 2 episodes left"
It doesn't exactly fill me with much excitement for the finale.
All enthusiasm gutted.
I was expecting Edge of Horizon finale to depress me this weekend but Heaven continues to lay it's random and ever chaotic sense of humour at my feet. Bring it on InnOngsa, I'm not afraid of you!! 👊😖🦋
I too, had high hopes for Knot, but it thankfully handed in it's resignation at ep. 2, so I treat it like the circus it is. I just grab a snack and point and laugh as it steam rolls in every direction.
Dont Be Too Emotional is a bait and switch tactic, that always feels like a betrayal to me when I see it.
It earned my attention and trust, for 6 weeks. I was fully invested. They laid out the foundation, the nuances of the characters, dangled the pyschology like a carrot and then hit us right in the face with a baseball bat.
According to the above reply, the original source has complicated, human material to work from, and for some reason, they've thrown it all away to meet some bizarre trope quota.
Watching a show youve genuinely been excited about lobotomize it's self is sad
A second rerun of the exact same Arc 1 challenges, seriously?
A hamster wheel is only cute when there's an actual hamster in it.
The complete lack of any creative thought is painful.
I ask myself what anyone was thinking when they OK’d this script, but that naively implies anyone was thinking at all. The approval meeting must have just been a rubber stamp falling onto the contract and they had to go with it.
I'm completing it because I've enjoyed it to so intensely for the first half, and I can add it to the 52 week challenge, but I'm not hopeful that it will be added to a Recommended list. I'm very disheartened.
And your context actually makes me angrier. You’re telling me there was real psychological stew sitting right there in the source material, and these writers chose to throw it all out just to keep "happy families," a bratty brother, a convenient nuisance, of whom drama watchers still know nothing of, and a finale amnesia plot for the third arc?
They are speed running through nearly every trash trope I despise.
I was willing to be lenient with the slow sinking of the plot earlier on, but absolutely not this time. Titanic's lights are out and the engines just blew up.
Next week, some semblance of sanity isn't restored, I am burning my rating to the ground.
To whoever decided to dump gasoline on all that delicate character growth and set it ablaze for cheap drama; I hope both sides of your pillow are forever warm for the rest of your days. You deserve a stern slap to the back of the head for that decision, along with every executive in that writers' room who nodded along and said, "Yes, that sounds like a great stretch to 12 episodes, because there are no more ideas on the board"
And to anyone in the audience currently purging this show from their watchlist, I will personally light the torches and hand out the maps to the exit. I wouldn't blame a single one of you.
I’ve been genuinely loving this show. It’s been my absolute #1 weekly watch, so to hit us with not only a fourth breakup, but a ragebait amnesia trope, at terminal velocity speed, right at the finish line? Absolute narrative blasphemy.
The rage I feel is very real, and it stings.
To make matters worse, we’re dragging slimeball Dan back out of whatever oblivion he’s been idling in, just to let him rewrite history for cheap, artificial tension. And his parents are probably going to allow it because suddenly they’re terrified of Big Jane.
They have been so aggressively useless the entire show. Sitting there, sipping tea, and mumbling three words per episode like decorative furniture. Jamie had more narrative purpose than those two combined, and Jamie was barely holding on with his epipen.
"You sold your house to him, remember?"
Yes, Dan, and someone had better mention the 10 MILLION baht debt that Big Jane offered to handle before I lose my Fae mind and telepathically flip every single table in that writers' room.
The only saving grace in this entire dumpster fire of a writing choice is Jet’s actual character growth. He had better, on this green earth, step up and defend Big Jane next week. That entire friend group, after sitting there clapping like seal pups, better execute a full scale intervention, because fuming is not the word I'm scrambling for right now.
An amnesia plot belongs in the midpoint, approx episodes 7 through 9, so the narrative has room to breathe, heal, and earn its resolution. Slapping it onto the finale is just disrespectful and lazy designed to farm outrage. And yes, congratulations, I am angry, and rate your show down immediately. A non-negotiable full point docked right there.
I might just banish next week to the void, and watch it together with ep 12, the following week when the dust clears, because absolutely not.
I think I need a curry tonight. A Dragon's Breath curry, to incinerate this episode from my mind 💀
If I survive, it'll still be a better plot resolution than whatever the fuck that was. 🐉🌶️🔥
**Stomps off with my baby dragon, like a tiny, angry flamethrower**
*hissss*
I like to make it a habit to not assume anything on anyone's part, esp online.
To your credit, this whole show is a game of spagahetti on the wall so if I guessed something right, I'd be almost shocked 😂
No one is really right or wrong here, because the whole dynamic of this show relies on audience bias. Characters like the two Janes are mirrors. They both share the same name to mimic a Yin and Yang or a fire and water dynamic, showing how these traits are detrimental to our happiness when out of control, but how they can balance each other out when they are tamed and guided.
Intentional or not from the writer, boxing them into 'who is the red flag?' flattens what is a really interesting study in coping mechanisms.
(Trust me, I'm an emotional mess myself *twitch 🐇twitch*)
☆Big Jane isn't an evil villain, but him saying "it's part of the deal" isn't a 'get out of jail free' card either.
I love Big Jane, he's my bias here, but it's okay to point out when he's being a slippery little goldfish 😂
Running a favor trade where you hold all the cards over desperate people and hide behind terms and conditions is a defense mechanism.
☆ It's never fully specified what he gets in return, but remember that girl? Yes, she was wrong. She asked for help, BJ refused her, and so she got beaten up by her boyfriend and dragged off while her university watched. Big Jane's reaction was essentially, "Oh well, she deserved it. Let's have steak." 😂 Is domestic violence ever the right answer?
Or how, my favourite, when he told Little Jane, 'I didnt lie to you, I just havent told you yet' 😂 That's called a half truth, and it is manipulation.
Slippery little cod 🐟😂
☆ His entire worldview, that everything is a contract, a give and take, is a red flag. Big Jane is, on paper, a red flag. He uses strict transactions so he never has to be vulnerable or feel empathy. It's his own calculated self preservation mechanism. His phrase. "Don't be too emotional. I agree to your request. Here are my terms, abide by them, and what happens afterward is on you. I don't care, I did my part, I'm not responsible."
☆ In my neck of the woods, that's uncontrolled fire. A spark that will, one day, burn your house down.
So Little Jane's reaction is also right, Hey Babe, this will come back to bite you. Indirect harm will always come back when desperate people get angry at you, and I am worried.
☆ On the other side of the coin, Little Jane isn't a saint either. He's trapped in his own altruism.
He tries to play the moral hero, but he has no boundaries and struggles to defend them when he does try e.g at work when his colleagues were turning him into their secretary (which LJ admitted also happened at his previous bank job).
☆ Little Jane is the water, like a little trickling stream with the potential to be a flowing river, but he keeps draining all the water out of himself. Sacrificing your own desires, getting manipulated by friends like Put, and running yourself dry to put out everyone else's fire isn't "pure kindness", that's emotional dysfunction in your heart space. To be needed and wanted so desperately. But how do you pour from an empty jug? A person who can't hold a boundary or say "no" will eventually harm themselves.
*raises hand* It's not pleasant. And it messes with your head a lot because your ego truly believes you are doing the right thing.
☆ Remember their business class talk about takers, givers, and matchers? Little Jane himself admitted to BJ earlier that he loves how BJ makes him feel important and needed because LJ is always the one giving to others. So now he takes from BJ, reversing his usual life dynamic in his romantic life.
Obviously, LJ isn't going to live in a mansion while his family flounders, but leaving BJ on read will only exasperate an already delicate trust.
They are both disasters at opposite ends of the spectrum.
☆ Neither of those strategies works for a healthy relationship, which is what makes watching them crash into each other, and hopefully work it out. such a compelling watch 😂
I'm scared to click post and see how long this is 😂
Pffftt woahhh 😂
The kindest thing you can do for yourself is to have a buffer. Watch other shows, enjoy other hobbies and activities outside of the internet. Breaking up the time gives your brain a rest, and the wait easier instead of one long, exhausting marathon 🍵✨