Haha, Fkn Chat having a full on drunken nap on the couch while the entire nation's gold supply gets casually hauled across the border! πππ The absolute audacity of this man. He is operating purely on the mentality of an entire army of village idiots while the country falls apart around him. π
Anyway ..... Oh, how naive I was to think the revolution was the end goal. Weβre doing that now?! As in, we are actually going to witness the full political upheaval with Phob and Tinn interwoven right into the heart of it? Great, sure, cool! That's awesome π
With that extra episode added, it turns out thereβs plenty of time to unpack all the secrets, the angst, and inevitably watch someone get severely harmed along the way. Yeah! π₯³ I'm not worried. Are you?
βI still don't think we're heading toward a tragic ending, though. I would be genuinely shocked if they went that route, but I honestly can't predict where they're taking this next, given my total lack of expertise in Thai history.
Judging by that agonizing, slow motion release of their hands, the writers are fully prepared to drive the nail of viewer torment into us for as long as humanly possible before ep 11 end credits roll, and I am not looking forward to the pain π₯²
Ok, listen. Boys, screenwriters, I need you to go easy on me and mine this afternoon. After last night's silent scream from DBTE, and a harvest mischievin', I am currently being held together with strong irish tea and a hopeful whisper.
I cannot survive another violent afluttering of the 'feels' or I'm going to crawl into a tree trunk and hibernate π
About the sex scene. No, it wasn't passionate sex, but it wasn't 'making love' either. I also really hate that phrase π Compare that scene, with LJ's exam scene in ep 2. There was no heat or connection. I've done it, when the love has already died but physically, you're using sex like a band aid for a wound that it won't be able to fix.
It was a mutual breakdown, or at least, that's how I interpret that kind of behaviour. Both characters are carrying massive emotional baggage and unresolved grief or guilt. They knew it was over and were mourning it.
Giving in physically wasn't a celebration. It was a desperate attempt to hold onto a reality or dream of what they were supposed to have been.
Tee's face before he started thrusting. That's not a man in the throes of a hot erection or tender loving devotion. That was exhaustion to me. That was, 'let me run this out of my system for a moment because I'm really tired of running after you'.
For LJ, it wasn't desire either. He's submitting to the moment because words have failed him. So he just kisses and stares, teary eyed, back at BJ. If I'm under someone, and I'm making that face, or vice versa, that's a something's wrong expression. I am deflated, depressed and am not enjoying this and we should really stop.
βIt was uncomfortable and depressing for me to watch. The lighting, pacing, and lack of typical sensual flair, the added weight of what had just occurred.
It was a heartbreaking surrender to grief and ruined promises. And that's a soul level kind of hurt.
Hey can you plz mention the timing in trailer for after leap scene . I couldn't see that
βI had to go back and watch the trailer again, and you're right ... it's not actually in there! π
Maybe it was in the pilot preview? βI just remember seeing the two Janes fighting on what looks like a street, with Dan pulling LJ away, and BJ styled to look noticeably older. But there's a good chance it was either cut or changed, given how strictly they've kept everything from the second timeline very secret
Since we know nothing about Big Jane's family, other than he's the eldest son of a super mogul family (the family with management replacement on the tv?) and uses a different name (probably his mother's?) I'm really starting to wonder if he's heard Little Jane's words before:
β"Ever since you came into my life, it's fallen apart."
βFor a guy who has such a black and white style of thought processing, is isolated, and allows these nasty rumours to further isolate him, hearing that his presence just brings ruin to someone he finally opened up to? I wonder how much of a trigger that is?
βOoooooo, ouch .... I'm weeping into my curry right now and blaming it on the onions ππ§
βOhhhh, these assholes... They knew exactly what they were doing by not giving us a preview for next week.
I had an inkling they would have a distinct separation at the midway point, both in the plot and series structure, but I was still not prepared for the swamp of my own salty tears and snot they were going to leave me in! Fk U!! In the best possible way. They pulled my heart out and danced on it today, and I loved every second of it like the masochist I am π₯² That was glorious, thank you π€
βI think it's obvious now who the real antagonist is, and I immediately thought: is Put trying to apologize TO Big Jane, and not to Little Jane? As in, obviously, Put seen who hit him, and has now realised, too late sadly, that he was a sacrificial chess piece in a much bigger game? Is Little Jane the Queen? π
βI think I've only seen one clip from the modern day era (which was in the trailer) so they've done a really good job keeping that under wraps. I highly praise the storytelling capabilities here.
βThis show is a solid 10 for me right now, and that's not easily earned this early. I am a point hoarding dragon, and I will mercilessly chomp and burn a score down (aka bitch, whine and strop π) the second a show slights me! But if they can keep up this momentum throughout Vol 2 (complete with a new opening credit sequence, I assume π), this will be the fastest and easiest Unicorn rating I have ever given a series π
** Also, I did recognise the song, Midnight Hour. They used that in Heart Killers.... great song π
I think I will ultimately be finishing this show. I can't seem to let go of this unwavering desire to see if it can salvage itself.
On paper, it's awful. It's repetitive and clunky, it looks tacky, the acting is awkward, and while there are faint glimpses of a grander plot, it keeps reverting back into this shallow rich family drama, and it's barely scraping the surface of even that.
βI can understand a low budget, but I can't excuse the lack of narrative effort. What on earth went wrong behind the scenes? Everything just screams a cheap, quickly created vehicle for BoatOat's sex scenes, and perhaps some adverts for the other couples.
βOmegaverse is such a fun, complex concept to play with and I'm almost in shock that they have somehow managed to make it this bad. Just .... how? There are no rules in Omegaverse, why is the show dragging it's knuckles across the floor?
βI dont want this to fail but I keep giving it grace because the core concept had so much potential, but instead of stepping up, it feels like the show is wasting its own premise, and I remain incapable of walking away π₯²
I know they're going for a pure and noble soul who will become the glue that heals everyone with Phatsa's character but he is coming off annoyingly preachy in these circumstances. He's just been plopped into this tense family dynamic, literally overnight. He is no position to be giving anyone moral lectures. I want Naphit to turn around and ask Phatsa who is he again? Stfu and sit down.
I'm going to assume that Daddy is going to cause problems with Nakin and Ongsa, trying to chase down this elusive True Omega.
We got a repeat of his scene last week, word for word, just in a fancy office this time π
Hmmm, the plot is thickening .... Maybe you dont have terrible luck, Great, maybe someone is sabotaging you. We havent gotten any background on Great, and yet he is a pro fighter, he seems to a single heir to a wealthy grandmother. Is there something, or someone, who is karmically tied to Great's luck. And I dont mean his future husband π
"It's hard to respect or enjoy a show once it hijacks your peace, and I fully respect anyone dropping out…
I think because a lot of fandom culture relies on surface level comfort, so when a show presents raw complicated scenarios, they might be trying to sanitize it to regain safety.
βFor me, it completely comes down to narrative intent. Sometimes horror was exactly what the writer wanted and I dont agree with that.
E.g The pool scene in Payback.There was zero creative reason for that whole sequence other than to distress the viewer. That's where I would agree with those people. It didnt need to be there. It's not depth, it was indulgence. And I am most certainly part of the group being told to watch disney over there π₯² and it pisses me off π I just have to walk away.
But when I compare that to Big Jane attempting to force himself on Little Jane here. I obviously don't condone it, but I can still emotionally connect to his chaotic feeling. His raw desire, his need for control, to own LJ, his desperation to be understood again, and any other insecurities or issues we haven't dealt with yet.
And most crucially, he stops when he realizes Little Jane isn't reacting. It was the same in the Art gallery. I'm thinking is he so used to reading people physically, from his pyschology degree, that words mean nothing to him now? Because people lie and decieve all the time.
It was only when those physical cues remind him that his intention was never to harm LJ, he stops. He knows heβs in the wrong and he'll only further push LJ away.
Heβs incredibly flawed, but he is still in motion, while Little Jane is trapped between his pride and his own feelings.
It's fantastic character study for me π
It's just keeping footing in complicated emotional terriority that would otherwise be difficult to sit with. Even if very cartoon scenarios start happening later π
"It's hard to respect or enjoy a show once it hijacks your peace, and I fully respect anyone dropping out…
Good point. I would be included in that group π For sensitive material, I like to give people grace because usually it's because they themselves have been disturbed, or are just not in a place to understand. Everyone's boundary is in a different place.
βFor me, it works as long as the story maintains its internal logic. Predictability and understanding give me a sense of safety and control. The second a writer loses sense and starts pushing for drama and reactions, it's not a controlled narrative anymore, and biology takes over.
βItβs a delicate line. Morbidly fascinating when you start to learn and realise why you react the way that you do.
Fascinating psychological breakdowns in here π I just assumed there is background we just haven't got to yet lol
It really proves that obsessive leads are only fun because thereβs a TV screen between us. Humans, by nature, are thrill seekers. We love feeling the danger without actual living it. We can enjoy the fictional high and then put it down.
βThat said, it only works as long as the show stays within our emotional boundaries, like with what PB just recently did to me. There's this tightwire in the psyche, between 'this is just a feeling, It's not real' and 'I am actually witnessing this'.
The second a writer stops making sense, you risk crossing over the line and triggering an anxiety response.
So far, this show is now my no. 1, and as long as I can understand Big Jane, it can stay at No. 1
It's hard to respect or enjoy a show once it hijacks your peace, and I fully respect anyone dropping out if they are uncomfortable. I would implore you to do so.
The absolute audacity of this man. He is operating purely on the mentality of an entire army of village idiots while the country falls apart around him. π
Anyway ..... Oh, how naive I was to think the revolution was the end goal. Weβre doing that now?!
As in, we are actually going to witness the full political upheaval with Phob and Tinn interwoven right into the heart of it? Great, sure, cool! That's awesome π
With that extra episode added, it turns out thereβs plenty of time to unpack all the secrets, the angst, and inevitably watch someone get severely harmed along the way. Yeah! π₯³ I'm not worried. Are you?
βI still don't think we're heading toward a tragic ending, though. I would be genuinely shocked if they went that route, but I honestly can't predict where they're taking this next, given my total lack of expertise in Thai history.
Judging by that agonizing, slow motion release of their hands, the writers are fully prepared to drive the nail of viewer torment into us for as long as humanly possible before ep 11 end credits roll, and I am not looking forward to the pain π₯²
After last night's silent scream from DBTE, and a harvest mischievin', I am currently being held together with strong irish tea and a hopeful whisper.
I cannot survive another violent afluttering of the 'feels' or I'm going to crawl into a tree trunk and hibernate π
Seriously though. Please don't wreck me
Compare that scene, with LJ's exam scene in ep 2. There was no heat or connection.
I've done it, when the love has already died but physically, you're using sex like a band aid for a wound that it won't be able to fix.
It was a mutual breakdown, or at least, that's how I interpret that kind of behaviour. Both characters are carrying massive emotional baggage and unresolved grief or guilt. They knew it was over and were mourning it.
Giving in physically wasn't a celebration. It was a desperate attempt to hold onto a reality or dream of what they were supposed to have been.
Tee's face before he started thrusting. That's not a man in the throes of a hot erection or tender loving devotion. That was exhaustion to me. That was, 'let me run this out of my system for a moment because I'm really tired of running after you'.
For LJ, it wasn't desire either. He's submitting to the moment because words have failed him. So he just kisses and stares, teary eyed, back at BJ. If I'm under someone, and I'm making that face, or vice versa, that's a something's wrong expression. I am deflated, depressed and am not enjoying this and we should really stop.
βIt was uncomfortable and depressing for me to watch. The lighting, pacing, and lack of typical sensual flair, the added weight of what had just occurred.
It was a heartbreaking surrender to grief and ruined promises. And that's a soul level kind of hurt.
Maybe it was in the pilot preview?
βI just remember seeing the two Janes fighting on what looks like a street, with Dan pulling LJ away, and BJ styled to look noticeably older. But there's a good chance it was either cut or changed, given how strictly they've kept everything from the second timeline very secret
β"Ever since you came into my life, it's fallen apart."
βFor a guy who has such a black and white style of thought processing, is isolated, and allows these nasty rumours to further isolate him, hearing that his presence just brings ruin to someone he finally opened up to?
I wonder how much of a trigger that is?
βOoooooo, ouch .... I'm weeping into my curry right now and blaming it on the onions ππ§
This weekend feels like a trap π
I had an inkling they would have a distinct separation at the midway point, both in the plot and series structure, but I was still not prepared for the swamp of my own salty tears and snot they were going to leave me in! Fk U!! In the best possible way. They pulled my heart out and danced on it today, and I loved every second of it like the masochist I am π₯² That was glorious, thank you π€
βI think it's obvious now who the real antagonist is, and I immediately thought: is Put trying to apologize TO Big Jane, and not to Little Jane? As in, obviously, Put seen who hit him, and has now realised, too late sadly, that he was a sacrificial chess piece in a much bigger game? Is Little Jane the Queen? π
βI think I've only seen one clip from the modern day era (which was in the trailer) so they've done a really good job keeping that under wraps. I highly praise the storytelling capabilities here.
βThis show is a solid 10 for me right now, and that's not easily earned this early.
I am a point hoarding dragon, and I will mercilessly chomp and burn a score down (aka bitch, whine and strop π) the second a show slights me! But if they can keep up this momentum throughout Vol 2 (complete with a new opening credit sequence, I assume π), this will be the fastest and easiest Unicorn rating I have ever given a series π
** Also, I did recognise the song, Midnight Hour. They used that in Heart Killers.... great song π
I think I will ultimately be finishing this show. I can't seem to let go of this unwavering desire to see if it can salvage itself.
On paper, it's awful. It's repetitive and clunky, it looks tacky, the acting is awkward, and while there are faint glimpses of a grander plot, it keeps reverting back into this shallow rich family drama, and it's barely scraping the surface of even that.
βI can understand a low budget, but I can't excuse the lack of narrative effort. What on earth went wrong behind the scenes? Everything just screams a cheap, quickly created vehicle for BoatOat's sex scenes, and perhaps some adverts for the other couples.
βOmegaverse is such a fun, complex concept to play with and I'm almost in shock that they have somehow managed to make it this bad. Just .... how? There are no rules in Omegaverse, why is the show dragging it's knuckles across the floor?
βI dont want this to fail but I keep giving it grace because the core concept had so much potential, but instead of stepping up, it feels like the show is wasting its own premise, and I remain incapable of walking away π₯²
I'm going to assume that Daddy is going to cause problems with Nakin and Ongsa, trying to chase down this elusive True Omega.
We got a repeat of his scene last week, word for word, just in a fancy office this time π
βFor me, it completely comes down to narrative intent. Sometimes horror was exactly what the writer wanted and I dont agree with that.
E.g The pool scene in Payback.There was zero creative reason for that whole sequence other than to distress the viewer. That's where I would agree with those people. It didnt need to be there. It's not depth, it was indulgence. And I am most certainly part of the group being told to watch disney over there π₯² and it pisses me off π I just have to walk away.
But when I compare that to Big Jane attempting to force himself on Little Jane here. I obviously don't condone it, but I can still emotionally connect to his chaotic feeling. His raw desire, his need for control, to own LJ, his desperation to be understood again, and any other insecurities or issues we haven't dealt with yet.
And most crucially, he stops when he realizes Little Jane isn't reacting. It was the same in the Art gallery. I'm thinking is he so used to reading people physically, from his pyschology degree, that words mean nothing to him now? Because people lie and decieve all the time.
It was only when those physical cues remind him that his intention was never to harm LJ, he stops. He knows heβs in the wrong and he'll only further push LJ away.
Heβs incredibly flawed, but he is still in motion, while Little Jane is trapped between his pride and his own feelings.
It's fantastic character study for me π
It's just keeping footing in complicated emotional terriority that would otherwise be difficult to sit with. Even if very cartoon scenarios start happening later π
βFor me, it works as long as the story maintains its internal logic. Predictability and understanding give me a sense of safety and control. The second a writer loses sense and starts pushing for drama and reactions, it's not a controlled narrative anymore, and biology takes over.
βItβs a delicate line. Morbidly fascinating when you start to learn and realise why you react the way that you do.
It really proves that obsessive leads are only fun because thereβs a TV screen between us. Humans, by nature, are thrill seekers. We love feeling the danger without actual living it. We can enjoy the fictional high and then put it down.
βThat said, it only works as long as the show stays within our emotional boundaries, like with what PB just recently did to me. There's this tightwire in the psyche, between 'this is just a feeling, It's not real' and 'I am actually witnessing this'.
The second a writer stops making sense, you risk crossing over the line and triggering an anxiety response.
So far, this show is now my no. 1, and as long as I can understand Big Jane, it can stay at No. 1
It's hard to respect or enjoy a show once it hijacks your peace, and I fully respect anyone dropping out if they are uncomfortable. I would implore you to do so.