I guess I haven't made it a secret that I'm not in love with this series as much as some of you. Here's why (I put this in my complete review):
WHO'S GAY/BI/STRAIGHT? Okay, I guess we can assume that Third and An are gay because, while they don't come out and say so (why not?), they also don't ever discuss women. Bone is straight, I get that. But what about Khai and Two? Are we SERIOUSLY supposed to believe that Khai, who has had sex with more women than anyone can count--and with no mention of ever having slept with a guy, nor ever having a physical attraction to a guy--is suddenly horny for Third, never to sleep with a woman again, as they fall in love forever? Sorry, that never, ever happens! It would have made more sense if Khai was openly bisexual to begin with, but not this way. Same with Two... he spends much of the series crushing on Lynn and salivating over women's "big boobs," and suddenly he's in love, physically, with An?
Come on... making a sudden change in sexual orientation is a HUGE moment in someone's life, and a step not taken lightly. At least give us some explanation of the transformation! All I can say is that this story must have been written by a delusional woman who enjoys nothing more than fetishizing men together.
THIRD: I know we're all supposed to feel sorry for him but, for me, Third was the least likable character. At first, he's in a major depression over his secret love for Khai, but he's hardly blameless. Sure, Khai takes advantage of Third all the time, but consider three things: 1) Khai has no idea Third loves him, 2) Khai's other friends (Bone, Two) would have either said no or not cared that much one way or another and, 3) Third allowed himself to be taken advantage of.
When Third started standing up for himself, he claimed to want to remain friends with Khai but, instead, Third treated Khai with utter contempt and disdain, until the end of the series. Khai may have been an assho!e, but much of it was unintentional and/or out of naivete. Third was an assho!e on purpose.
I'm posting a full review in the "reviews" section. It wasn't my favorite series by a long shot but I still liked it in some respects. Mostly, I felt it would have played out better as a 2-3 hour movie, rather than a 12-part series. (Just my opinion.)
So what is the secret that Third learns? I don't mind spoilers so please can someone spoil this for me? I am one…
At one point (Ep. 6, maybe?), Khai starts flirting with Third. Third is suspicious but starts to believe Khai. Then Third finds out that Khai was just pretending to be into Third, in order to find out if Third is really into him. So that's when Third starts distancing himself from Khai.
i hope we get some sort of extra episode or another season, it feels too short
Funny, I feel the opposite... like this would have been better as a 2 or 3 hour movie. You could skip from Episode 1 all the way to Episode 7 and not have missed a thing.
Despite the dislike for the characters and their stories, no one can't deny that this series has been well acted.…
I so agree with you! This is one of the best acted BLs I've seen in a long time. But I am really disappointed in the storyline itself, for a number of reasons. I'll hold off with stating my opinions until after the last episode airs.
Agreed with all except Bone being a jerk. The way they wrote it, he didn't have a choice. Can you imagine finding…
I've never had the feeling that Bone would have been "fine being the person she cheated with," nor have I felt that Bone was some kind of a playboy. But I can't stand that teacher lol.
OF course their relationship is toxic as hell the way it is right now, but can't deny it's entertaining to watch…
You're right, we do have to acknowledge that this is fiction. But, for the viewers involved in a real life toxic relationship, is it a good idea to have the two leads end up together at the end? I feel like it sends the message that even the most screwed up relationships can end up happily ever after... and of course, that never happens.
Just caught up on episode 9, and I still feel how I did around episode 4 - like I'm watching an emotional trainwreck…
I agree! I think both Third and Khai need therapy--individually. Guess I'm one of the few that wishes they wouldn't end up together (but I know that will never happen lol).
They are not doing it on purposeIf u are foreign to how subbing work is done than rather be quiet than bash someone…
Understood, thanks for explaining. :) I have no issue with the subbers.
But I think the reason international fans get so frustrated is because there never seems to be a set time to expect the subs. Let's face it, we all have to clear time out of our busy schedules to watch these series, so it's frustrating to have to check all the time.
It's probably fair to say that these series have a larger number of international fans than domestic ones. If not, it's still a large number and the networks should be aware of that.
From what you've said, Netflix has the right idea, very professional. GMM should follow suit, if they really want to build their audience and keep loyal fans from leaving.
Lol what? Have you even been watching the episodes beforehand? Third was so badly hurt by Khai and now Khai is…
For me, the difference is that Khai didn't know Third's feelings until now. Sure, Khai did all of those things, but a good friend wouldn't care all that much (for being ditched for a girlfriend)... the reason Third suffered so much was because he was in love with Khai.
But now, Third says he wants to be just friends with Khai, but instead Third acts like he really hates Khai, treating him like sh!t on purpose. Not cool. Third should either cut the friendship altogether or try to act like a decent person.
A lot of fans are upset because the Theory of Love English subbers tend to take a long time. I'm wondering if GMMTV purposely does this to gain more views.
Many fans watch the episode unsubbed, because they can't wait any longer... then, several days later, watch the same episode with the subtitles. So GMMTV might be getting almost twice the amount of views, than if the subs came out in a timely manner. Pretty smart, actually...
Okay. The more I watch of this, the more I think this entire thing is super toxic. Third is pissed off because…
I agree with you. Third is just as much of an a-hole as Khai was, just in a different way. Third finally makes the decision to stop his obsession with Khai, but claims he still wants to be his friend. He's not being any kind of friend at all. Sorry, I just don't like Third.
The actors are doing great with the characters they've been given. It's the storyline that I'm not too excited about. I honestly wish Third and Khai would just go their separate ways and find happiness with other people.
But hey, it's the only BL going right now, so I'll watch, lol! I don't hate it or anything... I just don't like it all that much. (Just my opinion.)
I really don't know why I keep coming back here, I read some comments and then I feel frustrated AF!! I don't…
I'll admit that I've been disappointed in this series. So why do I keep watching? For one, I've already invested this much time and I know that eventually the story will change. I want to see how it all plays out. Also, I like the actors, a lot. No shade on them.
I assume you really like the series and that's fine. Why should you be frustrated over a difference of opinion? This is a discussion board, not a fan page. I was one of the rare ones that really liked Together With Me: The Next Chapter. I thought the story was really interesting, but most people came on the board to talk about how much they hated it, and it didn't get great ratings overall. Didn't bother me... in fact, I found it interesting to hear why others didn't like it. It made for a more interesting discussion.
As for this series, It's not that I hate the story. Personally, I just feel like 12 episodes is too long (the plot really hasn't evolved much in five entire episodes), and I would have preferred this as a shorter series (maybe 8 episodes), or even a 2 - 3 hour movie. Just my opinion. For me, it's dragging on unnecessarily, but for others, they see it as a buildup. I respect the opinions of those who think differently than I do, and I find it interesting to read their thoughts on the series.
WHO'S GAY/BI/STRAIGHT? Okay, I guess we can assume that Third and An are gay because, while they don't come out and say so (why not?), they also don't ever discuss women. Bone is straight, I get that. But what about Khai and Two? Are we SERIOUSLY supposed to believe that Khai, who has had sex with more women than anyone can count--and with no mention of ever having slept with a guy, nor ever having a physical attraction to a guy--is suddenly horny for Third, never to sleep with a woman again, as they fall in love forever? Sorry, that never, ever happens! It would have made more sense if Khai was openly bisexual to begin with, but not this way. Same with Two... he spends much of the series crushing on Lynn and salivating over women's "big boobs," and suddenly he's in love, physically, with An?
Come on... making a sudden change in sexual orientation is a HUGE moment in someone's life, and a step not taken lightly. At least give us some explanation of the transformation! All I can say is that this story must have been written by a delusional woman who enjoys nothing more than fetishizing men together.
THIRD: I know we're all supposed to feel sorry for him but, for me, Third was the least likable character. At first, he's in a major depression over his secret love for Khai, but he's hardly blameless. Sure, Khai takes advantage of Third all the time, but consider three things: 1) Khai has no idea Third loves him, 2) Khai's other friends (Bone, Two) would have either said no or not cared that much one way or another and, 3) Third allowed himself to be taken advantage of.
When Third started standing up for himself, he claimed to want to remain friends with Khai but, instead, Third treated Khai with utter contempt and disdain, until the end of the series. Khai may have been an assho!e, but much of it was unintentional and/or out of naivete. Third was an assho!e on purpose.
I'm posting a full review in the "reviews" section. It wasn't my favorite series by a long shot but I still liked it in some respects. Mostly, I felt it would have played out better as a 2-3 hour movie, rather than a 12-part series. (Just my opinion.)
But I think the reason international fans get so frustrated is because there never seems to be a set time to expect the subs. Let's face it, we all have to clear time out of our busy schedules to watch these series, so it's frustrating to have to check all the time.
It's probably fair to say that these series have a larger number of international fans than domestic ones. If not, it's still a large number and the networks should be aware of that.
From what you've said, Netflix has the right idea, very professional. GMM should follow suit, if they really want to build their audience and keep loyal fans from leaving.
But now, Third says he wants to be just friends with Khai, but instead Third acts like he really hates Khai, treating him like sh!t on purpose. Not cool. Third should either cut the friendship altogether or try to act like a decent person.
Many fans watch the episode unsubbed, because they can't wait any longer... then, several days later, watch the same episode with the subtitles. So GMMTV might be getting almost twice the amount of views, than if the subs came out in a timely manner. Pretty smart, actually...
The actors are doing great with the characters they've been given. It's the storyline that I'm not too excited about. I honestly wish Third and Khai would just go their separate ways and find happiness with other people.
But hey, it's the only BL going right now, so I'll watch, lol! I don't hate it or anything... I just don't like it all that much. (Just my opinion.)
I assume you really like the series and that's fine. Why should you be frustrated over a difference of opinion? This is a discussion board, not a fan page. I was one of the rare ones that really liked Together With Me: The Next Chapter. I thought the story was really interesting, but most people came on the board to talk about how much they hated it, and it didn't get great ratings overall. Didn't bother me... in fact, I found it interesting to hear why others didn't like it. It made for a more interesting discussion.
As for this series, It's not that I hate the story. Personally, I just feel like 12 episodes is too long (the plot really hasn't evolved much in five entire episodes), and I would have preferred this as a shorter series (maybe 8 episodes), or even a 2 - 3 hour movie. Just my opinion. For me, it's dragging on unnecessarily, but for others, they see it as a buildup. I respect the opinions of those who think differently than I do, and I find it interesting to read their thoughts on the series.
Episode 2: Third loves Khai. Khai treats Third like crap. Third breaks down sobbing.
Episode 3: Third loves Khai. Khai treats Third like crap. Third breaks down sobbing.
Episode 4: Third loves Khai. Khai treats Third like crap. Third breaks down sobbing.
Episode 5: Third loves Khai. Khai treats Third like crap. Third breaks down sobbing.
You're welcome.