MaintainingMama

This show is so cute and deserves more attention. Moo/Keen could be Fourth's brother, he reminds me so much of him. GMMTV knows how to make a feel good drama, that is for sure.

I liked this series. There have been some stinkers at the beginning of 2024, so it's refreshing to get cute series like this or Only Boo. I loved Kimmon in this, however I would have LOVED if they had had at least one kiss with his lead actress. A kiss after they got engaged would have been perfect for all the times she rejected the kiss. But I loved their story line. The actress who played Namsom is gorgeous, so I hope we get to see more of her.
I liked the messages in here about social media and shipping and how it effects people who are literally doing their jobs. I love a good ship and boy do blush with the best of them if my favorite ships do something cute or sweet. But at the end of the day, I don't lose any sleep over who they are with in their lives, same as straight pairings. It would be wonderful if there was an app that was like Zendaya, that only the good stuff could be shared.
I liked Job and Porsche in this. I don't know that the chemistry was all the way there, but I also didn't feel like they weren't a good match or that there there was zero chemistry. And while I think the acting was good, there were some stiff places, especially in the million kiss scenes we got.
I love a good kiss scene, I did feel like there were too many and not enough story. I would have been happier if instead of a kiss/NC scene we would have gotten more dating/talking moments. Like the garden scene. Fueang chasing Krom around with the little red watering can around the garden and having a little cute water battle would have been just what that part needed, instead of more kissing.
But on the flip side of that, I appreciate that they showed to healthy young men who were just horny for each other, especially at the the start of their relationship. It's realistic. So I guess I just want a balance between the two.
I hope we get a special episode, cause I would love to see them all again.
Side Note: Shout out to Star Hunter for hiring so many LGBTQ actors and allowing them to show up in a way that represents themselves. I forget where I first saw Fluque in, but am always impressed by her, and now I really need them to make a romantic comedy with her in it. I only suggest comedy because all of the roles that I have seen her in, she has been funny. I would love to see her flourish!

I just caught up with this series. I like parts of it and really roll my eyes at some of it. Starting with the likes, I like Shogun and First (although the size of Shogun's head compared to his body is distracting as heck! I know he cannot help it, and he is hella handsome, but man!) I like that for the most part they are showing Khem and Wela in a healthy, somewhat realistic relationship, and by that I mean 2 young men who are dating constantly doing it (albeit exhibitionist style, for the added kink!) all the time. Would I like to see a bit more hugging and just physical touch with out the constant kissing, sure! I like a balance between my NC and my romance. But over all, the chemistry is chemistrying. I will say I was frustrated at the part where they are constantly getting raided but all Khem could focus on was Wela literally doing his job, the job he was doing long before they hooked up. While I understood the jealously, it went to far. I need Thai shows (really all the shows every where all around the world) to stop normalizing assault as just a thing guys do when they are jealous/upset. I would have loved to see a bit more of Khem appreciating the business his mother built and put in a bit more effort. Just seems like they have too much NC, too little character development.
The whole Seiji/Japan/Ken thing is another frustration for me. 2 episodes left and I don't really know who I'm supposed to ship. I was hoping for a throuple (literally would have made the most sense in the context of this story and how they have written it so far), but mainly because while I could tell Seiji likes Japan, I cannot NOT tell if he likes Ken as well. Then you have Japan standing up for Ken, realizing that Ken does in fact know and love Seiji the most and not really standing the way of that and Ken on the flip side of that helping Japan get to know Seiji and take care of him better. Why not a throuple? We'll see I guess, but who knows after that kiss. I will say that who ever is doing Seiji hair needs to be fired. Which is crazy because whoever is in charge of Dai's hair/makeup and clothes needs a raise. Makes me wonder if they were in charge of their own...
I have know clue what to make of Great and James. I thought at first James was having a one sided love and that Great was just oblivious to it, but then we get a random bathtub scene and now I'm not sure. I'm guessing they were pretending because of the Golden Rule #5, still, then say that during the bathtub rubbing extravaganza so that we, the viewer, get why they are in the tub together.
While I love Khun Freya, she also frustrated me. She was losing money left and right and not really doing thing about it. Why shut down the club for week to clean it instead of taking down auntie/grandma screaming lady? The first time the shut my club down, I'm investigating why. I'm posting videos on social media about police abusing their power to try and ruin her business with out any proof. I imagine, just one video of her showing her club and proving there was nothing illegal going on (or better yet, compiling the video from that dude seems to always be there and asking social media to start asking the police why they keep harassing Deep Night. I bet the auntie/grandma doesn't have enough power and money to keep doing it if the police get push back from the masses. I just wanted to see both Khem and Freya put a bit more care/effort than just standing there looking frustrated.
Overall, I liked it. But I won't lie, even at my old age, I am beginning to dream of one day becoming fluent in Thai for the sole purpose of editing some of the scripts so they make better sense and then making sure who ever edits it makes the story flow a bit better. I just think this plot is really interesting and new but suffers so much from too many NC scenes (gasp! I never thought I would say that as a person who used to beg for anything more than barely there kisses aka fish lips in these shows) and not enough character development and consistent plot lines.

Just finished this. I liked it overall. Everyone got what they deserved except for White. But I get why they did that, as to torture Tee for the rest of his life. I get that he had a hard life and he had to take care of his dad. But dragging Non in and literally destroying ever square inch of his life with only a little remorse at the end. His only qualm was he didn't want Non to die. But let's say he did all that to Non and somehow Non didn't end up working the casino and the debt was forgiven. Non still had lost everything at that point. Even with out disappearing, his parents had washed their hands of him. If Non had killed himself because of the actions of Tee and Top and Por and Jin, I honestly don't think he would have felt bad. He sure didn't seem to feel bad while he was doing all that to Non. I'm on New's side, other than killing the helper and White. They were innocent and didn't deserve to be caught up. But everyone else got what they deserved. I'll only waver on Phee as he had a right to be upset with Non. Although it wasn't clear, I think Non slept with Keng in exchange for that money. He was just looking for a way out. And Keng took advantage of Non's desperation.
Jin was kind of the worst for me, simply because from the beginning he acted like he had no part in Non's disappearance, like he was the only one kind to Non, when in reality, he was kind of creepy with Non, always touching him with out consent, even when it was clear Non was uncomfortable and did not return any feelings. To do what he did to Non and then to help cover up his disappearance was all I needed to know about Jin. He wasn't that good to him before the sex tape incident either. He never once tried to really stop his friends from abusing Non.
Anyway, I do want to know why they didn't get out and how are they still stuck, but overall, I'm satisfied with the ending. Good on you, New for avenging your brother. They all deserved that level of punishment.

This was good, but could have been great. I agree with everyone else, this needed like 2 more episodes, to really work out all the conflicts that were presented.
1) Evil gives one slap (and from how crazy he was to begin with and how afraid both of the brothers were, I cannot imagine that was his first time slapping either of them) and he suddenly stops controlling Yoon So Heon?! He made So Heon practiced until past 2am because he was late, but one time he doesn't come home, after he was kicked out, and Daddy Dearest forgot to be mean!? I was really hoping for his So Heon to show his dad that Jazz is just as important and worthy as Classical and then Daddy Dearest would come around after the festival performance. Cliche, but not dealing with Dad at all left a hole in the story.
2) I wish So Heon's brother had acted a little bit more crushed that Taejoon killed himself. He went from being in love to breaking Taejoon heart because he wasn't ready and then that was it. We didn't get to see how he felt when Taejoon commits suicide. It would have been great to see him, in his brief appearances through out the show, act like he was sad sometimes. You know, a cliched gaze into the distance. Just so we know he felt bad about the whole situation. Cause through out that reveal of how he knew Taejoon, I kept thinking, he must not have cared too much for him. He had thrown away the rest of the song, had given one page of it to his brother and the yearbook, with the picture of them was in the living room, seemingly forgotten. It was like he didn't hold any of the things he had that related to Taejoon dear, so how were we supposed to believe that loved him.
3)I needed an explanation as to Joo Ha was soooo mean. I mean, I got that he was doing it to punish DooYoon for making him feel things, but what did So Heon have to do with it?! And all the absolute abuse he subjected Doo Yoon to was crazy. That level of mean and vicious went above repressed feelings.
4) Speaking of, I hated all the overlooked assaults. Like both couples were cute and believable, except, why would they want to date those dudes who abused them?! I needed the script to do more to shame both characters than just having to give an apology.

5) Also, I needed them to build the love up between Tae Yi and So Heon a bit more for me to believe that Tae Yi would just be cool with So Heon's brother being the reason that Tae Joon commits suicide. Especially since they spent most of the 8 episodes emphasizing how effected by it Tae Yi was.

Overall though, it was good. The chemistry between couples was amazing, so I enjoyed it. I'm just saying it could have been better.

Thank you!

Thank you for that! I really appreciate it. Is the book in English and if so, where can I read it?

I finally watched this drama. I have mixed feelings, but most of them are good. First, let me say, if you are hesitant to watch it, go watch it. What this show did EXTREMELY well, was tell a romantic as hell story. Like all the feels. I'm not a crier, so this didn't get me, but it almost did. It was well acted by everyone involved, but especially the main leads. I truly believed they had an epic love. It was a perfect period drama that showed just enough of the climate of the time, with out getting so bogged down by historical details, that you lose the romance. It also didn't let the main couple get swallowed up by the main side stories, you get soo many amazing scenes with them together, alot of them happy moments. But they also don't leave the side stories hanging. Well, not much. I would have liked one more episode, showing how Khun Yai lived his life and how the other people in the story ended up, like Eaung Puang and Maey. And Ming. What did their lives become? Did Ming ever get to leave the house and follow his dreams?
Now for the parts that bothered me. First, why was going back in time enough to make Jom less...well everything. That man was an architect. That meant he had to be incredibly smart, especially to lead a project like House Palathip. Why didn't he act like it?! He was so self assured on the phone with his co worker who was being a jerk in the first episode and the workers obviously followed his lead, showing that he has proven in his life, that he was a more than capable leader. Why did he become this mousey man who hunched his shoulders every time he talked to anyone, like he was just a humble servant who had worked all his life and didn't have any life experience outside of being a servant. He should have taken his knowledge of the past, which I imagine he had to have studied at some point, along with the street smarts that would have come second nature to someone who is from the future. I kept waiting for a rousing pro-LGBTQ speech, especially to the father, after they took down Robert, just to get folks thinking about change. Some speech Jom would have read a million times on vlogs and instagram rants. But alas, nope.
There were other things that irked me, but that ending...Huh?! I've seen some posts saying that there will be a season 2, but one thing I have learned, especially with Thai dramas, is that a season 2 almost never happens, even if the show is popular. RamKing anyone? And even when it does, look at how long we usually have to wait. Between Us anyone? This show would have been a masterpiece to end all masterpieces if they had just taken maybe 30 extra minutes to explain...well anything really. If he was reincarnated, how can he remember Jom? Who is he in relation to Yai, as he never was with anyone again (we assume) until his death and sister was a lesbian who maybe aborted her baby? I say maybe because the story lead us to believe that was what she was going to do, then didn't show it and when they left, she looked pregnant, but they didn't explain that...maybe it's a great great nephew from the youngest brother, but again, we don't get that explained. We just see Yai in modern clothes with a full memory of who Jom is to him. Again, I say, HUH?! And that will be such a dissatisfying ending if they never make a second season. And if they do, they seem to be going to focusing on mustache Yai, so apparently Jom just time travels to all the Yai's in the past and falls in love with them...but that is such a stupid storyline...
While I was disappointed in the ending, it didn't take away from the beautiful story that most of the series was, which says alot. I can only hope that if they do a season 2, that it will be just as good. I'm not really expecting it, but I can hope, right.

This show was an enigma, wrapped in a hotdog, covered in WTF. The mystery had me until the end, I'll admit it. And I actually liked that they pushed the boundaries of sex scenes in this show, no matter had ridiculous a lot of the scenes were. I commend the actors cause they committed to scenes that most actors wouldn't.
But other than that, this show was just bad. And it had all the potential. But who ever wrote this was like, this show is already out there, let's make it make zero sense at the end and we'll get a second season out of this.
And I'll admit, it may have worked. I need to know if they ever take down Jason Lee. I need to know if Aob and Puen figure out how to survive. I need to know why Keen is still pretending to be Captain's boyfriend after he got his revenge (much deserved, btw). I need to know does Nuth get out of jail, and how they do it. I need to know if Phob died, like it seemed he did. I need to know why Phob killed Nant. How did he even know Nant was going to be there.
I KNEW from probably 4 episodes in, that Zouey did SOMETHING crooked. He was waayyy to innocent for someone as kinky as he was behind the scenes. He just gave off psycho. I don't know that I totally understand why he continued to deal with and protect Jason Lee after he was assaulted. His whole involvement with Jason Lee and Nant didn't make a ton of sense, but I guess that was another way to make us come back for season 2.
I had to listen to this stinking show on mute for half of it, (too much cringey English), skipping through some scenes (long pauses, dramatic stares, and cringey crying). The ridiculous costumes (let's go torture someone and get in a shoot out in a crop top, leather ensemble with high heel boots, cause that makes sense!) were painful to watch half of the time. Special shout out to the flesh toned underwear worn in every single scene for the random sitting around naked moments.
And in saying all this, I will probably come back, soooo reluctantly, but I will come back and watch if they somehow manage to get enough sponsors to make a second season or a special episode to explain WTF that all was. See ya'll there! Cause you know you'll watch this cringeyfest with me! 😂😂

This rating is NUTS! I imagine it's only this low because so many people went into this thinking it would be a BL despite it never being advertised as one. Please watch this, it deserves all the views, it honestly deserves world wide recognition.

This was an AMAZING high quality production. The acting, the clothes, the sets, the music, the storyline....ALL top tier! Apo deserves a million awards for his role as Khem. Miles was also so good, with his quiet despair. Bas was heartbreakingly good! And as usual, Tong was just...chef's kiss!

I cannot say enough at how well done this was. I am soo glad that this was available for Netflix in the States, cause I have been dying to watch this since the first trailer. Be On Cloud always delivers on top notch production quality and this is no exception.

This was completely worth your time and deserves a much higher rating.

As someone who is watched all of TayNew's stuff, this series amplified why they are part of the 3 pillars of GMMTV and that love scene showed how much they have grown and how far they have come. While they haven't ever really given "bad kisses" New tended to act like he was being forced to kiss Tay, so it was hard to feel the romance of what is supposed to be 2 characters in love in all of their BLs together. They erased that with this series and especially that love scene. My favorite part of ep. 11 is them cuddled in bed afterward, just sooo happy to be together and so in love. I did not see TayNew but KaranAchi and that is exactly what actors should bring to any role they play. I honestly never expected to see them together in another BL after Dark Blue Kiss and I actually would have been okay with that. They are great in other series and while others act like they only used BL to get into acting and will never return once they get any other genre, Tay and New both seem to be genuine with their love for their beginning and the BL world that brought them in to acting, much like OffGun. But know that TayNew have come back and done so well, I kind of need them in another series together as a couple... either way, I look forward to their next series together, as it looks good.
Junior as Jinta is an AMAZING balance of the over exaggerated Japanese version of this character and the Thai version of slapstick humor. This character in either country could easily be annoying, and the Japanese version did so well, that I was so worried for this particular character when they announced the Thai adaptation. Junior is doing so well! He is cute and ridiculous all in one and I love him so much! I hope to see lots of him in future roles!

I honestly think, at least in the BL world, they do develop some type of feelings. I get why so many of them describe their relationship as more than friends or partners, but never say, "we are dating" I think the phenomenon of a ship has created a special type of "relationship". The best and I honestly think the first to describe it is Billkin and PP. It is so clear that Billkin is straight and PP is gay, but they way the behave with each other, you would honestly think they were dating or at least had dated. But they just call it a special relationship and that is that. I think a good example of who I think are still finding their way at balancing that relationship or even crossing over into that kind of relationship are ForceBook. They have been best friends, so their chemistry together is there. But if you look at their love scenes in OnlyFans, they did not hardly go "there", the way Force and Neo did. I mean, Force kissed First more passionately than he did Book. I think it goes to your point of not being able to kiss your BFF like that. I think it says alot about acting talent to be able to kiss your BFF and not have it be weird. The best example of that is FirstKhao.

I think I had figured out why OffGun were doing the lamest kisses after so many years together and so many BLs that GMMTV has produced alone. Maybe they made this for those who are new to BL and have never seen people kiss before and don't know that you don't do it with your eyes open and zero body contact.
Not gonna lie, I'm disappointed. Being one of the pillars of GMMTV, OffGun are capable of better. We have seen them do better. While this was supposed to be light hearted with a touch of angst, this was still an acting job. They should have done better, especially Gun.
Don't get me wrong, I love OffGun and will forever ship them. I'm just saying this was not it for me. Even Dynamite and Fire's story line was meh to me. They had zero chemistry. Even that hug at the while Fire was heartbroken over his crazy mother's reaction was awkward and not the hug you give to someone you love when they are going through something. It looked more like a casual friend who happened to come across you crying cause you just found out your family dog died, and you hug them cause you don't know what else to do.
And while I sort of like that they made Prem's sister in love with Samsee, it wasn't hardly believable because they show zero of her feeling for him until literally the last segment. Like, why couldn't we have know all along that she liked him. This show could have used a third couple.
The dad pissed me off and I hate that we were just supposed to accept his crappy behavior toward Ten and Prem. In all of those years, it never occurred to him that he should explain that he did try to save Ten's mom? And instead of just getting to know Prem, he harassed him for the money back only to give it back while demanding to be fed after hours when they had worked all day? And not an apology for any of this awful behavior, huh?
While this is by far not the worst drama that ended this week (have you seen For Him...Don't!), it was meh. Off was actually pretty good and believable as Ten, but he could not carry the whole show. And while I kind of liked that they didn't win in the end, it would have been nice to see the other two's success after the show once Prem opened up his chef's table. And I kind of would love to have seen those awful Mise En Place people's restaurant mostly empty with dwindling customers because even if the food tasted good, their poor service would keep customers away.
Is it a skip...not really, it was serviceable. But it's definitely not going on the rewatch list.

I loved this! So sweet. My favorite parts were when Ohara, the giant among them all, would melt and become tiny because of something Kakeru said. I loved the friend group, except when they would come during the worst possible moments interrupting. I mean while blondie and the other dude were great at advice, the kind of were stalking the ML's at points. Like how do you give advice to talk it out, then go hunting them down and interrupt said talk?! Other than that, it was great. The slice of sweetness I needed.

This going into the worst bls list along with Physical Therapy, Dinosaur Love and Chain of Heart. Just WTF!? A million ads, a million awkward, weird sex scenes (too many feet!!!!) and zero story. Man, I miss Last Twilight, Pitbabe, and the Sign. I don't care what anyone says, Playboyy is waaaayyy better than this hot garbage. It has flaws, but at least the story makes sense (mostly), the acting is better and the sex scenes don't make me want to gouge my eyes out (Again I say, too many feet!).

If there is anyone out there who is thinking of starting this and came to the reviews to see if its worth it, it's not, run away, do not pass go, do not click play. Just go rewatch Pitbabe or Semantic Error. Heck, go watch and old BL with fake camera kisses and inappropriate jokes about boys and porn. I promise you what ever you choose will be way better than what ever the heck this was.

First of all I LOVE your name, as a fellow Old Lady StayTiny who also loves bls, hello bestie! 😂😂Second, this the best description of the final (terrible) episode.

Why in the world do Thai shows have a character who behaves on an unhuman level but then they get forgiven just because they said, I'm sorry? Like Te was a literal nut job and all of a sudden, because the guy you convinced to harass him decided to take it just a tiny bit (read: sarcasm) overboard by shooting the guy you have been God awful to for months, we are supposed to forgive his character and start shipping him with a character we don't know at all? Like who wrote this crap!?!? Like they never for once even show Te feeling bad for all the things he did to Him, and we as the audience are supposed to just accept his lame ass apology and then be like, oh goody, another ship! Huh!?
I was actually interested in the PhaiChao story line at first, but man this whole show was craptastic. Chao being annoying and not cute asking Phai out every day got on my nerves. Phai, being the older one, not able to simply say, "Hey, I get that you want to date, but here are my reason for not wanting to and if you cannot respect that, you have to go", drove me up a wall. Then Chao being gone for 3 or 1 days, it wasn't clear due to the bad writing and editing, was enough for Phai it maybe miss Chao, but that was also unclear because the actor who plays Phai never changed is facial expression, not once in this entire show. And Chao going to the tattoo shop where Phai works, even though he was supposed to be avoiding him was just...ugh! At that point, I could care less if they are together.
Speaking of caring less, I have -2000000000000% interest in Te and neighbor kid. Mostly because who can ship Te with anyone, I want that kid to run far and fast away from his crazy self. But also because, who is this kid and why have they introduced him when the show is over? I have zero interest in this character, so even if I somehow forgave Te, I don't even know neighbor kid well enough as a character to ship it.
I don't know who wrote this, but I pray they stay far from tv for a while. At least until they learn about character development, plot lines, consistence and a whole host of technical thing that someone creating dramas for entertainment should know. Cause this ain't it.

I completely agree that that was a directorial issue. But I wish that directors realized their needs to be balance between the natural chemistry (Gun's giggle when Off was teasing him) and the cringe (Gun forever basically running away from Papii being near his ear.)

While I liked this series, especially the beginning, it was so flawed in too many places.
The lie dragging on unnecessarily too long was the first. Like he should have told First when he first confessed his feeling for him. And the story still would have worked, just with First helping to hide Sprite and find the evidence to who attacked Zee and who was spying on the volleyball team.
Second, the whole relationship between Zee and Sprite. You know how in Not Me, even though they were separated as kids and were completely different in almost every way, they still looked out for each other and obviously still loved one another. That was what was missing from this show. Sprite literally almost killed himself trying to help Zee out and they was not one thank you from Zee. He was just mad that Sprite replaced him. But why, it was never clear. But I hate that Zee just bossed Sprite around and demanded he help him in his problems, but simply just being nice to First, knowing that Sprite liked him, was too much.
Thirdly, Zee was an unlikeable character. None of the flashback explained his personality. He was just an asshole to everyone except for Salmon. And that was that. No redeeming factor, not sappy scene where the grumpy asshole suddenly understands the error of his ways and at least tries to make friends with his team mates.
Fourth, Salmon was annoying. That speech she gave to Koh about not ruining his life by reporting his behavior to the coach was nuts. He literally drugged Zee...and they had to have known it, although it was literally never discussed again, despite making such a huge deal out of the whole process. I just didn't enjoy her character, and I could care less about her and Zee's relationship because she never showed she liked him, like that. I think I would have liked her better if they had ever shown her being angry and any of Zee's behavior or any of the crappy stuff that was happening to Sprite, despite him doing what she wanted, help Zee. The fact that she didn't help him not suck at volleyball, knowing he couldn't play drove me nuts. Also the fact that she somehow was the team manager, but had zero idea why the entire team hated Zee, and therefore could not warn/protect Sprite from the crap he got when he first took over. Like huh? How did she not know.
Sprite got on my nerves at points, especially at the end when he decided to keep switching with Zee and not tell First it wasn't him. Like huh, what did you think was happening when you weren't there, that your brother who was a literal jerk to everyone, would interact with your boyfriend (despite never having done it before) and keep up your charade? With out first TELLING your brother that you are not only in to First but also kind of dating, so don't be your usual self and treat him nicely. It would have been so easy.
I did like some things. Thun and Sam were cute. Sam's face did not match his body and they made sure we knew it! 😂😂Their storyline was cute, although it bothered me that Sam liked Zee so much but literally did not nothing to get Zee to even know he was alive. Like come on...
I liked Jack and Mike. Although their whole thing about hitting the ball made zero sense and they solved it with sex...so again, problems with the writing. It would have made so much better sense for their characters to have zero conflicts and just be the friends with benefits pair that they brought in just to throw in a NC scene. It would have been fine and welcome, especially while we waited for First and Sprite to get together.
I like the side stories too, except for Koh. Like, as long as he had to have been playing volleyball, to do what he did was stupid. He should have been used to not being starter on that team and to be a gracious loser.
I will say, I am waiting for Thailand's next ITSAY. Last Twilight was close, but there really hasn't been an amazing Thai BL for way to long.

I agree those scenes were 100% OffGun. It is well documented that Gun gets ticklish with anything next to his neck/ear. I will argue though that this tendency while he is acting shouldn't be there. It was what kind of messed up their tent scene in Not Me. It was supposed to be this sexy moment, when really Gun shows up hating the very scene that was supposed to be sexy. Same goes for this one. I'll admit the one with him giggling at Off's attempts at kisses was cute. But as great of an actor as Gun is, he should be able to put that off, for the sake of the scene. Or just insist that it's not added in the scene. As much as Iove OffGun, I want to see TenPrem, you know.