MaintainingMama

Well, I'm sat and seated. Definitely not sure how this is going to ever progress to BL territory, but I honestly don't need it to. I'm here for the absolute hot mess that is about to happen. I'm also excited to see Fort and Peat get to act in this kind of series. Kelvin's crazy eyes are immaculate, he is genuinely scary.

Thanks for the heads up!

Teh, you're pissing me off! First, you were a terrible friend, now you're a terrible brother! WTF! I honestly don't know they (the show) expect to redeem Jimmy. He hasn't shown any remorse or accountability for his actions yet. He is mainly upset that Yoh isn't crawling back like he thought he would. I need to see Jimmy beg and for a long time.And if Teh helps him, knowing all that Jimmg did, so help me!

I think Koh understood what he did, when they showed him going to the picture of his mother and crying. He said that he was as stupid as his father, who leaned toward one extreme. Koh went the other way, but it still was an extreme, to the point that it ruined his life, therefore he was just as stupid. I would have been fine if they all went their separate ways, but I think in this instance, the series portrayed that love is complicated and we often don't do the smart thing in love, we follow our emotions. The heart wants what it wants, and if after a year Jira could not move on, he might as well see where they would lead. He even admits, he is skeptical of them even working out. I agree with you, though, it will probably be a mess most of the time.

Visually stunning. Amazing concept of juxta positioning art, obsession, AI/tech advances, capitalism, longing, trauma and choices. Every actor did an amazing job, but my MVP is Off this time. Gun stole the show in Not Me, but Off in this series was soo vulnerable, but also snide and infuriating. He was not a likeable character, but because he was so flawed, you (I did at least) feel sorry for him. He was pitiable. He was also soo sexy. You understand why Jira sees him a muse in the beginning and ends up falling for him, despite how deeply flawed Koh was. It is funny to me, that Koh was considered to least human (behavior wise) by the other characters. But I argue, he was the most human. He was selfish, but generous. He was formidable but weak. He was so deeply flawed a person, but he knew that, owned it, but also did not do anything to change it. He was most people are, but pretend they aren't because it doesn't look good. I am so glad that Jira does not go back to him until a year later, because I do think Koh needed that time to see where he went wrong and that Jira needed to come to terms with his feelings for Koh. Like he said, he tried not to paint him, but in the end, his feelings won out. And if that is not the hallmark of a great artist? At least in my opinion it is. What was obvious to me in the difference between the painting that Jira created and the AI image that Koh generated was the emotion behind it.
Dew was also amazing. He played the role of the "right" choice for Jira, despite being flawed himself. He was the ML we should root for, because for a time, Jira would have been happy. But like both Pheem and Koh said in the end, Jira makes Koh more human and I think Koh makes Jira more grounded.
I imagine that Koh and Jira will be that couple that fights all the time, has passionate sex and then get back together again. Jira will be inspired by Koh and Koh will have some of his trauma healed, therefore he will make better, maybe even more morally guided decisions in business. It will be a flawed relationship, but it will work for them, much like most solid relationships.
I'm going to miss this show. This won't be a comfort show for me, but I would definitely revisit, especially as time goes by and technology does start to advance further into art, just to see how well this will hold up, story wise.

I agree about Uea. As an actor, James was able to play super sexy well. While I agree, I am totally over the super virginal lead being reserved, sometimes even terrified of sex, Poom is doing so much that it detract from the show. While it honestly, for me, does the opposite of its intent, it comes off unsexy/a turn off. Which ruins the show about two MLs who are super sexual, both of whom are using sex to cope with various traumas. CopyABangkok almost always has great ideas that then get ruined by terrible acting, terrible direction and a script that goes too far but not in a good way. I get what they are trying to do, but it rarely lands. Which sucks because they honestly do some unique story/plots that would contribute to the broadening landscape of BL/queer media.

The director of this makes mostly terrible BLs, so I'm not surprised. Do NOT know why he was able to make so many bad series and still be employed. Today's episode made zero sense and was literally edited like they had a bunch of extra scenes and threw them together. This is very much like Playboyy, but I feel like Playboyy had more of a plot. Same director.

They better make Jimmy suffer for like 3-4 episodes, honestly he deserves more. And I am so glad they got another guy to come in for Toh. Maybe someone to show how him how someone who loves you is supposed to treat you, because obviously he cannot figure it out hisself.

This is so crazy but I looked up who directed this and it was the same director as Bed Friend. So I am guessing this is both poor directorial choice and a terrible acting performance. But now that I've seen his other directing jobs, it explains why this went bad so fast. He has a long list of could have been good, but ended up sucking series. Sigh...this may have to get dropped by me.

At least in scenes where sex isn't even a possibility. Honestly, I'll compare it to James in Bed Friends, he was a vixen when it was time to get down and dirty, but at work and when they were talking, he was just a normal person. Peem/Po acting that way in literally every scene with Sasom is annoying. He didn't act that way with his best friend, so this is definitely either a acting choice and or directorial choice. But all falls on the director for letting it happen.

Man, what a powerful episode. I love what this series is doing discussing art, AI, mental health issues, vanity, sexual desire vs love, longing, obsession. It wasn't a long series but it managed to fit so much in to discuss, to mull over, to sit with.
It was so interesting to see Koh go from loving, caring, sweet, funny, playful and cute to this shell of a human, who in exploring what he likes, totally disregards the feels, thoughts and opinions of someone he likes. He would have immediately gone after someone who took his work and used it for their gain, and yet saw no problem with doing it to Jira.
I do feel bad for Jira, because he anticipated that Koh would hurt him eventually. He was prepared for that. But I don't think he thought it would come in a way that would literally make him obsolete. And how can you go back to that, to Koh? Even if he deletes the images, gives back all the original work, and promises to never do it again, he has shown that he valued his own interests and money over something that is literally apart of what made him like Jira in the first place.
I cannot wait to see how this ends. I'm not interested in anyone ending up with anyone. But I cannot picture the ending and I love that about this series.

I'm not one who needs an intricate plot to enjoy a series. My Stubborn barely had one, but it worked for me (mostly). Episode one was a pretty solid start to the show except for the distracting lip stick on literally everyone. But this second episode....it could have been a good series. I forget that CopyABankok likes to take pretty decent stories, interesting and new stories add weird scenes and camera shots (why are you looking at me while your ass is getting ate out?!), and ruin what could have been a good series. Say what you will about Playboyy, the plot was interesting and it wasn't executed poorly in most of the series. But then CopyA does their thing and then you get cringe tv.
And I don't even mind cringev, if done well...but they don't... do it well.
First, who ever is the MUA on this series... count your days. Why was Sasom's hair sticking straight up in the front for the entire episode? Why did Po have on orange eye shadow and bright fuchsia lipstick on, when he was supposed to be asleep? It is soooo distracting on a show, where someone got their ass ate out!
second, Who ever told Poom to act this way as Po...why does he talk like he's always seducing Sasom, no matter what they are doing? It's just weird and off putting and frankly...not sexy. I think it makes it worse, because Ki is actually doing a good job acting, AND being seductive/horny so juxtaposed against each other, its even more glaring. It sort of made sense in last week's episode, but now its just over the top, imo.
Third, what was the second pair's purpose this episode....it was kind of pointless, plot wise. They meet...okay? It was impossibly slow and I had it at 2x speed.
Last, wasn't Po supposed to be having all this sex with Sasom online? So far, they have only been hooking up, is Peach Lover done?
I blame the director for most of these complaints I have. It just is disappointing that a show with such potential could so quickly go down hill. I don't know if I'm dropping this...but I'm probably okay to wait and binge it at 2x speed.

This show should have been called Basket Full of Deplorables. I don't like a single character. Fah, what was the reason of flirting with Jimmy, just to Teh could see, even though you knew that Jimmy was manipulating everyone. Why hasn't Teh come right out and said to his 'beloved brother', Jimmy really wants Fah, but is sleeping with you to get back at me for sleeping with Fah. He doesn't really want Fah, and he sleeps with multiple people. And then provide that proof, which wouldn't be hard, just shoot the shit with all of your mutual friends, talk about Jimmy being a player and record it. It would probably take less than 5 minutes to get a dearth of info. Record what he says to you about Toh. As stupid as Toh is, that has to at least help what ever 'plan' you and Fah came up with. There are no words for how terrible Jimmy is. Not even getting his perspective at the end, changed my mind about him. He is a awful, no good, dirt bag and I pray this show (despite him being a fixed ship with Kad/Toh) ends with him all alone. Do I know that they are going to do the half baked plan that Fah and Teh came up with and have Toh give up and then Jimmy is going to change his ways because he loves him. Well, of course. But that would really make this show amazing, if Jimmy ends up alone and Toh finally grows a back bone and ends up with someone he hired to work at the no existent cafe.
Finally, honestly, I think I like him the least, Toh. I don't have any sympathy for him. That man literally heard the entire plan immediately after giving him his virginity and he was like, but he's cute and he treats me like crap most of the time, so I'm going to stick beside him. Why did he break in to Jimmy's place in the middle of the night? They literally gave zero reason for it. I don't blame Jimmy for this singular response. Then to show again, apologize, give him your body and then not even whisper a complaint when he didn't take his dick out of you before he told you to skedaddle!? And by the way, feed my cat on your way out! WTF!? Eeeeeyuck! I need him to grow the strongest back bone by next week.
Now all this, isn't to say I'm not enjoying the show. I love a good mess and this is the most toxic mess since maybe My Stand In. Not as good, story or acting wise, but it's not nearly as bad as Bad Guy My Boss. I definitely want to see what happens next, so it's doing its job of keeping me engaged. I hope next week they not only introduce the ex of Jimmy's that seems to break through Toh's stupidness, but that during the cafe hiring, Toh meets a hunk to compete with Jimmy.

I said the same thing. Billy's acting during that scene was impeccable.

I was skeptical of them being able to answer all the questions I had even up to episode 11. But they some how managed to do every thing. Wrapped up the past to answer where Ruedee was, how his hair got cut and how he died. How Kaew and Khun Yai end up buried together like that. How Saen was able to follow him. They left out how Nanny Yam was able to. And I guess the child that Saen briefly mentions is Sin and that is why he was real and still called him dad even though he appeared older. They answered what happened to Sophee both in the past life as well as the current one. I'm super satisfied with her present death, as it had to be painful and she deserved it. I like that even Pan did not escape his atonement for his part in Kaewta death, and that lead to the fulfillment of their promise eternity in the next life time. I do want to know how Ruedee from the "present' was in charge of the White House in the 'future' and what happened to Kaewta and Yai in the "present" that they are gone and she is alive? Also, where was Khun Yai going to go before Kaewta came and told him he knew it was him?
My only thing I wish had happened was that when Kaewta and Khun Yai got back together in the 'present" that Kaewta, having remember the promise of telling Khun Yai he loved him, he did it when they were standing there and Khun Yai admits that it is him in Ajarn Prem's body.
Outside of that, this ending did not seem rushed to me, considering that they answered most everything. The music was beautiful. Billy's acting when he found out Kaewta was dead was brilliant. I felt every inch of his pain. I love that the Dad probably didn't approve of Khun Yai and Kaewta, but was just a decent human being that tried to save him....unless he killed him cause Kaew was alive when he found him....
Anyway, I definitely think this show deserved more love and I hope that BillyBabe get lots more work, because I love them together both on screen and off. Hopefully with a better flushed out script and better directing.

Boy it's nice to have balanced BLs right now. Comedy with Me and Thee, period/supernatural with Interminable, and this beautiful display of grown up complicated mess-a-ry. I love that we are finally getting why Koh is such a messed up individual. And that it's not some complicated back story. Literally just his dad being a bad business man, and his mom being hard on both Dad and Koh, for same reason, presented differently. I actually don't blame the mom. She, of course, comes off as harsh and mean to the father. But as a mother, my children's (as well as mine) security is paramount. It sounded like this was a chronic problem that they dealt with. There comes a time when enough is enough. So she lashes out at the father. Then, as mother's often do, she turns what she struggled with into a lesson that would shape who Koh would become. I don't think she knew her warning to be cold in business would have Koh become this closed off individual who became so good at doing business with out attachment that he now has threats surrounding him. That he would have to hide his identity, and become a recluse. That he would stop being able to sleep and that his social skills would go into the toilet. Such a simple problem turned into the mess we love to hate. Off Jumpol is killing this role. I'm not a fan of skinny men, but Off, in this role particularly, is sexy af! I get why Jira wants to draw/paint him all the time. He's so lithe in this role and I am living for it.
I'm was sort of feeling sorry for Pheem because I don't see how he has a chance now with Jira, but then I remember he slept with some one as well, so even Steven. It looks like Jira lets him know his decision next week, which I hope happens.
Now ask me if I think Jira is capable of forever or even a few years....mmmm. I don't know. He give free spirit who's whims change frequently, so it will be interesting how they build the romance/BL narrative in the last few episodes.

Nope, not just you, it was so distracting that it detracted from the plot. The chemistry could have been immaculate but who knows cause I was too busy looking at the bright fuchsia lipstick. Or super glossy lips. And I'm not a make up girlie, it takes alot for me to notice a bad make up job. This was terrible.

It was a decent start, except the lipstick is a complete distraction. Whoever approved this and let it through QC needs to be fired, along with the MUA.

My goodness what a great show. Pond really, and I mean really carried this series, but everyone did and amazing job. Even Phuwin, who I have had mixed feelings on his previous work before. Kissing is my biggest complaint with him, and was going to be still in the first kisses, but then either Pond took over, they really worked the camera angles or Phuwin listened to past criticism. It was better, not perfect, but better. It also wasn't as romantic, from Peach's side as it could have been. All the effort that Thee put in, I would have like to see Peach melt at least one time. Or at least, once they started dating, not push Thee away every time he initiated intimacy, especially in public. I'm not asking for much, just reciprocating Thee''s affection. Even if it was a simple kiss when they were saying goodbye. Who doesn't go in for kiss goodbye when leaving their partner. Even if they had showed Peach going in for a kiss, but then getting shy because Mhok was there, it would have been cool to see.
But overall, this was a really great series. Well written and directed and acted. It was cringe in the best possible way, and I loved every moment of Thee being himself. Did I get why his parents dressed exclusively as 1920's gangster and his moll? Absolutely not. But it was on brand for is wacky family. I was a bit disappointed that the Mom didn't go all out in a 20's outfit for the wedding. But the biggest disappointment was Peaches quarter zip to his own wedding. Even if he wanted to be casual, a simple button down would have been better. He looked he was going to work from home at a cafe than getting married.
Anyway, Thee was my favorite, second to Est and then William. I'm a complete sucker for William's soft voice. Put him in a scene with Est and their soft way of speaking is my kryptonite. Add in mischievous/flirty William. I'm cooked.
Pond's performance as Thee deserves all the attention it is getting. I have always felt he was the better actor in the pair, but this definitely proves it. I have not a single thing to mention about this role and his acting in it.
I don't know if this goes into my rewatch rotation, but I had a great time watching this and I'm sad it's done now. Glad to hear we will get more of them.

I see everyone blaming IF for the problems with this show, but this feels more like a director/screen writer issue. This should have been written to reflex how many episodes it had to tell the story. I'll admit that production may play a role, but mostly, this story was too big for the time allotted. So they should have cut like at least two story lines. Sophee by herself is already a big enough antagonist, we didn't need the political stuff. Or if we kept the political stuff, then the whole terrible professor who was trying to SA Kaew storyline was unnecessary, along with the showing Yai's powers and stuff. Unless that comes back later, that his powers save the day...
I am still enjoying this story and especially BillyBabe, I think they are doing the best they can with what they were given. But I'll admit, this could have been so much better.
What is working for me, is the romance between Yai and Kaewta. The angst and longing for each other are there. They are so in love with one another, Kaew has forgotten about his best friend's disappearance (I asked the whole episode, what happened to Ruedee!?) They both have forgotten that they are both men in a world and society that will absolute not let them just move in together and spend the rest of their lives together. They are just pursuing happiness together, and there fore when Sophee, Dad and Brother come into play, it will be gut wrenching. Billy and Babe are amazing at that lovers separated by time and circumstances trope. I do hope, with all the company problems going on they find work and/or another company that takes good care of them and also gives them another series, maybe a comedy next time.
Another thing working for me is Sophee as the villain. The actresses performance is immaculate as she is cute behind the scenes, but on screen, every look she gives, every sentence she says, you hate her. I even felt briefly sorry for her when she asked Yai why couldn't he love her. But then she threw a fit and turned back evil, so we are back to hating her.
Last thing working for me is the clothes. I love a period piece and the clothes in this series are lovely.
I still cannot see how they are going to end it with a MILLION questions left to answer, unless the last episode is at least 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours. But the teaser for next week looks like we are getting a jam packed episode. I cannot wait to see how they wrap this up.