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Can anyone explain the Korean title? What does it mean? "You were completely fooled." "You were fooled." The poem has it as like the last sentence and Netflix just translated it into the English title.

It's a really old comment but it's what ALT said - the writer is actually a woman (this page used to be a picture of a male with her gender as male). The confusion comes from the fact that the writer has never revealed her face/identity and a male director accepted some awards on her behalf. But if you dig deep enough, there are Korean sources that report her as being a woman.

I finally got around to watching this, and wow, it was worth the hype. Because of the way the story is structured, it's one of the few dramas that make you care about the "second leads," if you can even call them that - I felt invested in all the characters. It might have gotten a tad fast at the end, but it felt like I watched a complete story, which is more than I can say for a long of shows these days. Maybe we could have used like half an episode to flesh things out, but I was pretty satisfied with how it ended.

I hate that this is getting spread around - I don't think the Reddit commentator actually found the quotes of some of those movies/I'm not sure they are even in there. There is another article that lists different movies: https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/k-pop/this-genius-viewers-react-melo-movie-episode-titles-allegedly-referencing-famous-films-like-the-dark-knight-the-godfather

A quick Google search confirms that 5 is definitely said in About Time (this is probably my favorite film of all time so I recognized the quotation right away) and if you Google 9, you'll see that Big Fish comes up. On the other hand, if you try to find some of those other quotations with the supposed movies that they match, they don't come up.

For me, it just shows that she's more immature than she should be as a 30something year old communicating with a now 30something year old - I'm about the same age as her and I can't think of the last time I had a conversation with my significant other and we didn't communicate...properly. I think by your 30s, you usually have enough life experience to stop playing those "guess what's on my mind" games. It's hard for me to suspend my disbelief, I guess.

There's an exchange that happens late in the series that I think captures why this series is so divisive: the ML doesn't know anything and is having a conversation with the FL. Without any real prompting, the FL tells him that one of her life goals is to protect someone she loves, but refuses to tell him who it is (it's him). It's one of those things that doesn't totally make sense - if she was dead set on pretending she had no relationship with him, why drop a hint from out of nowhere?

I think some people watch KDramas and hope them to be realistic, while others hope for fantastical stories and romantic escapism. This is pretty clearly the latter and it doesn't try to hide it: it's a relentless, unapologetic love story put behind a razor-thin plot and characterizations. It's going to bother people who look for realism and it's going to delight people who are looking for idyllic love.

For me, I can say that I'm too old for this show: I hate hyper realistic KDramas but this one was too outlandish for me - the leads were just so inexplicably in love but I never understood WHY - yeah, she's real pretty and bright. Yeah, he's real tall, handsome, and devoted. It's just pure, unadulterated teenage love.

I'm really curious in what ways it's different from the Webtoon.

Just finished this and feel unfulfilled. I think what's off about this show is that it seems like it really wanted to tell the story of the brothers and the second leads, and the main leads were an afterthought - the plot lines of immature first love and someone with such weight of responsibility to drive to depression were so raw and real. On the flip side, I can't get over some of the silly points about the main leads' storyline: the ghosting alone doesn't make sense to me because they were already in the era of cell phones. Yeah, maybe the ML goes MIA for days or maybe weeks but for either party to never try to call each other and never get an explanation is just ridiculous.

I feel like this production must have been rushed: it has huge parallels to My Beloved Summer, and not in a good way, in my opinion. It feels like the scriptwriter just copy and pasted entire sections of that script and changed it mad-lib style.

The production value of this one was off the charts, but I found it pretty cliche, with the weakest part being the story and the characterization - they were all so one-dimensional, with the biological dad being the worst character - his final plan made no sense ("if I kill myself and your adoptive dad, then the mom can never get married and everyone has to keep my name. Checkmate!". Uh, I'm pretty sure that's not how it works. If nothing else, the show itself established that legal name changes are a thing...)and he had no personality traits other than being abusive and wanting to punish his family for it.

As a feel good drama, it was amazing. Watching Eun Bin was a delight. Otherwise, I'm wishing that they had had another screenwriter pen the story.

Agreed - they absolutely killed it

I'm finding it hard to rate this one. It's not a feel good drama but that's the point. It's very good at making you feel uncomfortable, especially the ending. Still, there are some small things that bothered me (the bad guys that weren't the main characters acted like comic book villains sometimes, like the corrupt cop).

Oh my god, this is going to be a Start Up romance scenario isn't it? Where you root for one and she ends up with the other lmao.

What was the meaning of the necklace and the significance that FL kept it?

I wasn't paying enough attention while watching, so can someone spoil something for me (question below)?

I never said she was a saint either. Her being insecure doesn't absolve her from her repeat bad decisions: she consciously ignored all the implicit/explicit warning signs, like people straight up telling her that he's an a-hole or her overhearing him flirting with another girl. She was complicit in getting into that bad situation and had many opportunities to turn away.

At the same time, the guy is a straight up a-hole: yes, he started extremely upfront and basically said he didn't believe in love and seduced her. But even when she showed signs of being clingy/wanting more, he kept pursuing her. Say you had an understanding with someone that you were in a physical relationship only...but later on that person says they've developed feelings and want more than a physical relationship...and you have no intentions of doing that keep pursuing that person without telling them that you have no intentions of doing what they want...is that not leading someone on/being dishonest? Moreover, pretty much all the other characters see him as a sleezebag and not a friend. There's that saying that if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

Basically, they're both shitty characters and it was a toxic relationship. But he is definitely still an a-hole.

Neither ending is earned and actually if they switch the endings, it would be perfect.

In Nevertheless, you have an insecure girl who inexplicably loves this toxic fuckboy. The ending should have been that after the female lead goes through her "recovery" period, she realizes that male lead is an asshole and stays single or gets together with the second male lead. Instead they get together with signs that nothing has changed. Ending wasn't earned and actually, if it was a "sad ending" (she ends up alone) that would be much better.

Here, you have two people who didn't plan to fall in love, but did anyways, and supported each other. Somehow, the ending manages to prove that yes, they did love each other, and yes, they did support each other. But they end up apart (or it's ambiguous, if you'd like). Ending wasn't earned, and actually, if it was a "happy ending" (they end up together) that would be much better.

My issue isn't whether or not it's a happy or sad ending. Just that both endings don't make sense within the context of the stories.

I don't think this and Nevertheless are really all that similar BUT there's one thing related to them that I wish. HEAVY SPOILERS for BOTH DRAMAS in my post below.

This doesn't bode well: I think it's fair to say that there is HUGE hype for this, both domestic and international because of Kim Soo Hyun and writer Park Ji Eun. I can't help but wonder to myself what they are NOT telling us that pushed them to delay this.

I'm a huge Kim Ji Won fan so I'm personally super disappointed in this news.

Started off strong but got too cliche and long for me. The main thing that irked me was how hard they spammed the main theme song - I can hear it in my sleep...

알아요 나에겐 하락되지 않는 하나가 있죠

There were other little things that bothered me: if you're trying to pretend to be a guy, why would you keep long, Kdrama-silky-like hair that flags you like a woman whenever you put your hair down? I get that even guys had long hair back then...but I feel like you would definitely try to cut it/mold it to be more like a guy.

I finally got around to watching this. For me, I loved the way it made me feel even though some of the characters/motivations/story might have been cliché. Wish it had gotten a little more hype/attention.

I think it's COVID: less productions mean less shows come out which means it's less likely that each of us finds a show enjoyable. The pandemic was around 2020-2021 which pushed back productions. Even after vaccines started to get spread in Korea, there were some significant resurgences in 2022, and even in early 2023 there were a good number of new cases, so it wasn't entirely over. The content we're watching now in 2023 is the stuff that would have been shot in 2022, so I think we're still a little ways out (a year?) from the number of shows "going back to normal" - I think if you just tally up your favorite actors/actresses, you can probably find a bunch that seem to be "underused" that is probably just due to there not being enough productions at the moment.