I think you should take the spoiler tag off because more people need to read this. I don't understand the amount…
"For example, Green from 2gether, he was fem gay and was a side character so everyone laughed it off as silly but he was literally following Tine even to the toilet (like Kong did with Toh). But that was acceptable for most cuz Green was not the lead."
Exactly. Green, in "2Gether" was supposed to be the brunt of the joke. The one that the audience laughed AT, not with in his interactions with Tine, Sarawat, and the other characters. Hell, even his potential love interest Dim, initially saw him as a joke.
Neau never saw or treated Toh, like he was supposed to be a joke, and I think that having Toh being seen as a character of value, just messed with certain viewers opinions.
I think you should take the spoiler tag off because more people need to read this. I don't understand the amount…
"In fact in most other BL and romance shows/novels we see a lot of obsessive behavior, stalking, controlling and agressive actions and people are just swooning over them because it's all portrayed and understood as romantic as even natural coming from the standard male lead."
Bingo. "The standard male lead" is key, in my opinion. If Toh had been portrayed as slightly less effeminate, not a character that had extreme issues with his self-image, self-esteem, and how others viewed him, the whole entire message of the series would have been lost. That anyone, even someone that doesn't value themselves, is actually worthy of desire, affection, and love. Even from the big man on campus. BLs are centered around fantasy, but this type of character, is the one that makes certain viewers go, "What?! I just cannot see it?!" ๐ ๐ง
Sad truth :( MDL used to be a peaceful place with reasonable ratings but ppl r becoming not humble enough or something…
"coz how does chemistry , acting etc matter if the characters are unlikeable"
It matters, when all that you want to see is scenes of two male actors simulating sex, kissing one another, and AMPLE amounts of tongues being swapped. It seemed that the "tongues" were more praised than the storylines.
Okay, this says to me you never read the book. They actually followed the book pretty well. They even kept most…
"If the audience has to read the source material in order to appreciate a series, that says a lot about the writing and production quality of the series. "
I love that the same topic continues to try to be used, to justify the incompleteness of the plot for the TV adaption. It continues to make me laugh. The TV adaption, should stand on its own. Especially for viewers, who will never, ever attempt to seek out the source material.
This series is just what I need right now. Sota, Sato, and the entire cast of this series are wonderful in bringing this adaption to the small screen.
Kota doesn't at all get how folks see him (adorably sweet, and kind), because of him not wanting pity. It's the negative image of him, thing that keeps him from letting people into his life. He should have a group of really great friends like Naoya has, to support him.
All the "bad luck" that he has going for him, yet it doesn't stop him from getting to Naoya, is exactly what makes Kota loveable to him.
Just finished this drama now and I URGENTLY NEED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OTHER DRAMAS THAT ARE AS GOOD AS THIS!!!!…
Glad that you stayed, and enjoyed this crazy, enjoyable, lovely, and touching series. Here are my recommendations:
Absolute BL (Japan) - an utterly delightful spoof on all the tropes that we constantly see in BLs. The main lead, sees himself as "one of the mob" aka "background players", but he keeps finding himself in situations, in which he tries to avoid falling for a boy.
A Tale of a Thousand Stars (Thai) - One of the best made BLs ever, in my opinion. Not set in a college. Not centered on late teens/early college students. Not based in Bangkok. A rural setting, with characters in their mid to late twenties, discovering that there is more to them than just who they appear to be. The way that those two main leads, would just look at one another. Sigh.
Blueming (South Korean) - A college based BL, regarding two young men, in the same film department. A lovely, reflective journey, of very two lonely young men, discovering the "blueming" of trust, sharing their trauma, and the joy of falling in love.
I also can confirm all of the previously recommended BLs, especially Bad Buddy, Semantic Error, Cherry Blossoms, Gameboys, History 3 Trapped, We Best Love, Papa and Daddy, Plus and Minus, Until We Meet Again, Not Me, Cherry Magic, My Love Mix Up, Mr. Unlucky, Lovely Writer, Life, His, The Untamed/Word Of Honor, Killer and Healer, Couple of Mirrors (Chinese GL)!
What a beautiful series, As an Executive Director, Saint always seems to amaze me. Saint is so talented and gifted.…
Nope. I too, thought that Billy and Zee looked very similar, and I also saw similarities with the characters of Nuea, Fighter, and how much those two fell in love with their guys, Toh, and Tutor.
Exactly. Green, in "2Gether" was supposed to be the brunt of the joke. The one that the audience laughed AT, not with in his interactions with Tine, Sarawat, and the other characters. Hell, even his potential love interest Dim, initially saw him as a joke.
Neau never saw or treated Toh, like he was supposed to be a joke, and I think that having Toh being seen as a character of value, just messed with certain viewers opinions.
Bingo. "The standard male lead" is key, in my opinion. If Toh had been portrayed as slightly less effeminate, not a character that had extreme issues with his self-image, self-esteem, and how others viewed him, the whole entire message of the series would have been lost. That anyone, even someone that doesn't value themselves, is actually worthy of desire, affection, and love. Even from the big man on campus. BLs are centered around fantasy, but this type of character, is the one that makes certain viewers go, "What?! I just cannot see it?!" ๐ ๐ง
It matters, when all that you want to see is scenes of two male actors simulating sex, kissing one another, and AMPLE amounts of tongues being swapped. It seemed that the "tongues" were more praised than the storylines.
I love that the same topic continues to try to be used, to justify the incompleteness of the plot for the TV adaption. It continues to make me laugh. The TV adaption, should stand on its own. Especially for viewers, who will never, ever attempt to seek out the source material.
Kota doesn't at all get how folks see him (adorably sweet, and kind), because of him not wanting pity. It's the negative image of him, thing that keeps him from letting people into his life. He should have a group of really great friends like Naoya has, to support him.
All the "bad luck" that he has going for him, yet it doesn't stop him from getting to Naoya, is exactly what makes Kota loveable to him.
Absolute BL (Japan) - an utterly delightful spoof on all the tropes that we constantly see in BLs. The main lead, sees himself as "one of the mob" aka "background players", but he keeps finding himself in situations, in which he tries to avoid falling for a boy.
A Tale of a Thousand Stars (Thai) - One of the best made BLs ever, in my opinion. Not set in a college. Not centered on late teens/early college students. Not based in Bangkok. A rural setting, with characters in their mid to late twenties, discovering that there is more to them than just who they appear to be. The way that those two main leads, would just look at one another. Sigh.
Blueming (South Korean) - A college based BL, regarding two young men, in the same film department. A lovely, reflective journey, of very two lonely young men, discovering the "blueming" of trust, sharing their trauma, and the joy of falling in love.
I also can confirm all of the previously recommended BLs, especially Bad Buddy, Semantic Error, Cherry Blossoms, Gameboys, History 3 Trapped, We Best Love, Papa and Daddy, Plus and Minus, Until We Meet Again, Not Me, Cherry Magic, My Love Mix Up, Mr. Unlucky, Lovely Writer, Life, His, The Untamed/Word Of Honor, Killer and Healer, Couple of Mirrors (Chinese GL)!