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We can only hope RTZ will start changing for the better soon.

You've made lots of interesting observations. RTZ definitely has a long held grudge against Tou Tou due to the food delivery incident. The fact that his father dotes on TT has made him even more resentful of her. I believe he sees her as the intruder disturbing the family dynamic, where there should only be Meng Meng. Getting TT drunk was his revenge (disproportionate retaliation), perhaps he also hoped that she would be kicked out of the house.

As you said, RTZ has a lot of pent-up anger, frustration and resentment. I understand his family background is both a blessing and curse, at the very least heavily restricting and putting great pressure on him. Maybe that is why he cannot stand TT and her carefree attitude. She is free to be and do what she wants to an extent that he never will be.

The situation with MM is handled very poorly. She is emotionally and mentally unstable, although her state suggests to me there might be more trauma affecting her than the ectopic pregnancy and its aftermath.

If the Ren family is trying to overcompensate and thus strike a balance to help MM heal emotionally, RTZ should be prepared to fulfill this role for however long MM needs him - possibly for life. It would be very cruel to make someone the centre of your universe, then take away that attention and care. I am not convinced RTZ has romantic feelings for MM at this point. But he does enjoy playing the knight in shining armour.

Maybe it's partly due to guilt, partly that he enjoys the look of adoration in her eyes. What man wouldn't be happy to be looked at in such a way by a pretty girl? Unfortunately, he is also creating a lot of expectations in Meng's heart and mind. What next? Is he willing to care for her like this long term? In what capacity - boyfriend or future husband? The doctor-patient relationship flew out the window a long time ago.

To me, how the Ren family decided to make amends to MM is unethical and can be dangerous for everyone involved. I am not surprised by RTZ as he is clearly irresponsible. But his parents are experienced and should know this may cause more harm than good.

I know we already formed an anti-fan club for RTZ... But I wanted to add something that looked unbelievable to me at that time. Remember when the girl in the wheelchair and her mom (sorry forgot their names) met face to face with the lady who caused the girl's accident? The mom starts hitting the lady and lets go of her daughter's wheelchair.

In that scene we have 2 situations that needed immediate help - stopping the assault (it didn't look to me that the lady was fighting back) and making sure the daughter was ok. Yet RTZ only cares about MM, who was huddled in a corner.

The issue here is that he completely ignored 2 critical even dangerous situations and prioritized someone who was scared but far from any potential danger. Fortunately, someone grabbed the wheelchair and Tou Tou stepped between the women. Again while RTZ stood there watching.

Others mentioned below that script writers went overboard when creating RTZ's character, who either acts like an irresponsible teenager or shows little professionalism as a doctor. I am also baffled by their choice. We will see if there is a coherent reason for this very problematic setup of RTZ's character.

For me, it will be very difficult to redeem RTZ - he is so disappointing both as a professional and decent person. From the very beginning, he shows this innate arrogance, combined with lack of compassion and consideration for other people's situation. It's most obvious when he interacts with Tou Tou. But even with his long time friend ZLQ, being aware the guy has a poor family and urgently needs a paying job, RTZ asks him to not go to a conference (potentially useful for connections or even a new job) and give his earned place to Meng Meng.

Don't get me started on the story around MM. I cannot imagine what the script writers were thinking. How is that bizarre living situation/treatment helping her to heal? It's problematic and yes potentially dangerous on so many levels for MM and the Ren family.

And nobody asks themselves whether the trauma is deeper than the ectopic pregnancy. It is said MM is young - then was the sex consensual? Even if she is legally an adult, she could have been a victim of sexual abuse. Bottom line, she needs professional help including therapy - and RTZ could accompany her as a friend to offer emotional support since he wants to make amends.

However, I doubt he will apologize, let alone make any amends to Tou Tou. Let's not forget that MM is very pretty and the vulnerable type that triggers the knight in shining armour complex. He was barely civil when they first met in the supermarket, yet now he radically changed his attitude.

We are definitely on the same page.

I agree - she has no excuses for acting like that. For me it's also interesting to understand the mother's motivations. We know she comes from a prestigeous TCM family. To my mind, she desperately wants her son to have a perfect image - competent, knowledgeable, refined, the "perfect" heir to the family.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. Maybe the writers' point is to show that coming from a priviledged and loving family background, with plenty of education and other resources has not shaped Tian Zhen into a professional adult, let alone a decent human being. He benefited both from good genes (nature) and refined upbringing (nurture).

Meanwhile, Tou Tou supposedly has the great genes from her mother and little informal or formal education. Yet she has much stronger moral principles and compassion that guide her behaviour. In time she will probably surpass Tian Zhen in skill.

I think the root of RTZ's behaviour is that his mother has consistently downplayed or covered up his mistakes from childhood until now. He has yet to face the consequences of his poor choices. That is why he smiles almost jokingly to his mother when saying he regrets what happened with Tou Tou and will not do it again.

Ok I need to say this because I feel so much outrage right now! My opinion of Ren Tian Zhen has hit rock bottom. No matter how much he dislikes Tou Tou, how could he purposefully get her drunk then leave her there alone? Anything could have happened to her. Not only drowning or other physical harm, someone else could have found Tou Tou and taken advantage of her.

Ren Tian Zhen is a 26-year old man who graduated from medical school, with a loving and solid family background. He should know what is decent human behaviour. If it's Meng Meng he treats her as if she were made of glass, but in Tou Tou's case it's ok to intentionally put her in harm's way?

Even worse, he never admits his guilt or that he actually made a mistake. He stood by without saying a word, as if the incident had nothing to do with him, while Tou Tou took all responsibility and never mentioned his involvement.

At this point, I truly hope RTZ stays far far away from Tou Tou. She is sometimes childish and unrestrained, yet she clearly knows right from wrong. While RTZ is irresponsible and potentially dangerous for her.

It's difficult to control who we like and dislike. I think Tou Tou would be fine without his attention, since she needs support and encouragement from someone who truly understands her. Until now only Ren Xin Zheng is that person.

Definitely agree. About Tian Zhen, he made a poor first impression on me that has not changed yet. He is not a bad guy, rather has an innate arrogance I am not fond of. That air of superiority is most visible when he interacts with Tou Tou, but actually it's part of who he is.

The scenarios you described are certainly possible. I would prefer for the drama not to go the route of XM dying. Not only would it be hard for us viewers, it would also shift the focus too much on TZ, his struggle to recover etc. I find that there much more interesting issues and relationships for the drama to explore.

In my opinion, even a budding romance between Tian Zhen and Tou Tou will be hard to create convincingly. On the one hand, he will probably feel guilty and responsible towards Xu Meng and thus focus much of his attention and care on her. From that brief appearance, you could tell already that Xu Meng has a vulnerable air around her that tugs at heart strings and makes others feel like protecting her.

On the other hand, Tou Tou is fierce, used to survive on her own, quite aggressive at times or turns what she said into a joke especially when she feels emotionally raw. Tian Zhen dislikes, doesn't want to and/or cannot understand her, since he comes from a privileged and loving family. Of course, he bears his share of difficulties. But their backgrounds have shaped them into fundamentally different people.

More importantly, there is a high chance Tian Zhen will resent Tou Tou even more once her relationship with his dad deepens. Many scenes suggest Ren Xin Zheng will be more like a father than a mentor to her. He already dotes a lot on Tou Tou and openly favours her, while towards his son he can be very strict and sometimes too harsh.

Obviously, it is all speculation on my part. I am curious though how the relationships will unfold.

Thus far, I am loving the drama more than I anticipated. The blend of themes - TCM, passing down of knowledge and traditions in general, family ties, friendship, nature vs nurture, combined with the cast's solid acting are all highlights for me.

The latest episode made me tear up and then later laugh out loud. ZLS manages to take me from one emotional state to its complete opposite. About the potential romance between Tou Tou and Tian Zhen, I'll leave my thoughts below under a spoiler tag.

I see. I may read the novel before the drama airs, get a feel for the story. On a different note, I was thinking the other day that I would love to see Lusi work with Luo Yun Xi in a high quality script and drama. I have admired his work for some time, but his performance in TTEOTM was beyond impressive.

Hidden Love is not usually the type of drama I watch, but I will make an exception for Lusi 🥰 And I definitely have high hopes for the Last Immortal, though it's a long wait.

The trailer looks very promising! Finally, another Lusi drama will air. It feels like ages for me since LLTG.

Thank you. Yes, it is a drama that grows on you with each episode.

Hi, what I've posted are lists for fans. I am not sure if you rated LLTG part 1 and 2 individually. If you go at top of the page under LLTG title, beside the score 9.0 there should be ''Your rating'' with stars attached. You can submit your overall rating there.

If you want to rate each episode, go to top of page under LLTG title, where there is a section called Episode guide. There you will find the individual episodes. Click on each one and rate to your heart's content.