When he touched the ashes of the other Han Tae Sul, all the memories of his other version merged with him, it's…
Yeah, it's really sad. Based on MDL comments in Alice, the low ratings seem to be because most were confused, which resulted in misunderstanding a certain relationship (I don't want spoil :p )
It's hard to say how much of the show was about physics. For example, whenever they are trying to explain the concept of parallel worlds and time travel, they used the proper terms, flashed a short explanation on the screen, and in some cases the characters explained it in layman's terms. Also, in the latter half of the series, there were a lot of time travels.
The series is like an attempt to make a story out of different theories about quantum physics and time travel / multiple worlds. For me it was fun and I am glad to see writers are no longer afraid to try hard sci-fi.
I think it will depend if one understood what's happening in the show, especially that misunderstood relationship I hinted earlier. ^_^
Speaking of Sigma, in episode 14 (or was it 13?), when they showed that Seo Hae and her father happened to discover…
Yeah, I'm having a problem reconciling why Sigma doesn't appear old in that 2035 scene. I hope it was only because he had long hair which made him look younger, LOLs.
True that. I read a theory about how there is only one timeline and what we're thinking as different timelines are only the states between 0 and 1. I imagine it as a "time bubble" between the exact time incursion in the past and the exact time the time traveller came from. So anything between these two points of time is where all the different versions exist, but outside, it's as-usual. (I think that's what the writer of "TIMES" used.)
Hi :) could you please send me a link or the exact name of the webtoon? I cannot find it for my life of me >.
Thanks for asking and apologies, I think I misread an article, instead of reading "web series", I read "webtoon series". I checked the other sources again and, yes, definitely "web series" since it was released on Kakao TV and Netflix only.
Updated the earlier comment to reflect the corrected information. ^_^
Nope. They first met in Jin Dal Rae's Summer Guys cocktail bar. In episode 1, she was shown as reminiscing the…
The random scenes like a music video in episode 1? I was thinking those were part of her reminiscing in reverse, like traveling through memories from the present (beginning of ep1) to the day they met. (Though the scenes itself weren't 'playing in reverse'. It felt like spoilers.
But if it was a memory from before the four them met at the bar, hmm… they probably couldn't remember?
Thoughts and what not. (Just sharing, feel free to join the discussion if you like.)
Speaking of Sigma, in episode 14 (or was it 13?), when they showed that Seo Hae and her father happened to discover the hideout of Sigma in 2035, Sigma-2035 was recalling how he let Tae Sul choose between the girl and the world. That does not make any sense.
If Sigma was the first to use the uploader, then: 1: he shouldn't be in 2035; 2: that Sigma-2035 should not remember that "choosing" encounter
So… does it mean Sigma-2035 returned from the past? It's not possible either because that Sigma-2035 looks younger (or maybe his long hair made him look younger).
However, there is another possibility here.
The earlier theory that when they upload, the original stays and only a copy is sent to the past, hence the "copies" refer to themselves as "copies".
That means, the Sigma-2035 they saw in that bar is the original Sigma.
The next question is, why does he remember something the Sigma-copy did? Could it be that what a copy does, the original also remembers?
The next question then, if our Seo Hae-copy received the hand of her 2035-father, does it mean they were caught by Sigma-2035? It looks like it, considering how they accidentally saw Sigma-2035 in his hideout. He probably tried to catch them after they left but was only successful after Seo Hae-2035 already sent a copy of herself in 2020.
The copies knowing what's going to happen points to the possibility that they have some sort of communication with the future. For example, their downloader can detect if there's an incoming download (or an upload from the future). It means that the originals are sending information to change the past.
Then again … when Tae Sul first demonstrated his teleportation device, the original sugar cube disappeared and new sugar cube was created in a new location (the copy).
Did Tae Sul somehow changed the technology? Instead of removing the original, the original stays? Could that very well explain why there is a Sigma-2035 when he's supposedly was the first to time travel? Could that be the reason why Sigma-2020/copy knows a lot of information, like the hand delivery because Sigma-2025/original is informing him?
Thoughts and what not. (Just sharing, feel free to join the discussion if you like.)
I really want to untangle the "how many timelines are there" question in this series but it is so hard.
All throughout the series, they kept showing an ever-changing "future" and it is also hard to determine if our Seo Hae was remembering "her future" or the future the other Seo Hae came from. There were also "future" scenes which were not memories of either Seo Hae (ours or the other version) but rather the "new future" because of the changes currently happening.
I don't know if I can call that good writing because I can't tell either if it was intentional. I mean, there are writers who do want to keep things "muddied" or "confusing" because the story is not about it but rather the characters. Such as in this case, this is not about the future, this is not about alternate timelines, this is about the present and the relationship of Seo Hae, Tae Sul, and Sigma.
Nope. They first met in Jin Dal Rae's Summer Guys cocktail bar. In episode 1, she was shown as reminiscing the day she met the three hot guys. Based on that, I think the series will tell the story of how they all met, bonded, and fell in love.
When he touched the ashes of the other Han Tae Sul, all the memories of his other version merged with him, it's…
Yep. Basically, it's the only one based on real life quantum physics. The rest are theories and fictions (since it's time travel and/or about different timelines).
It is what I like about Korean writers of time travels, they use "quantum entanglement" as a way to "transfer memories/experiences" between one version and another. If you've seen "Alice" (2020), they did the same.
So the HTS in the bunker with KSH, was he from another time? 'cause he 'faded' a bit there. Same as how the others,…
When he touched the ashes of the other Han Tae Sul, all the memories of his other version merged with him, it's called "quantum entanglement" in real world quantum physics.
As for why he's glitching, at least based on the Sisyphus universe rules, Han Tae Sul (2020) got the memory of Han Tae Sul of the other timeline from 2030s. That should not happen. He practically became a "copy" just like everybody else who traveled to the past.
Our Seo Hae did not glitch when she touched the corpse of the Seo Hae of the other timeline because she was from 2035. She did not see any "future", she only saw the past of that other Seo Hae.
Also, Han Tae Sul (2020) said "time paradox", which established the rule in this universe as any knowledge of the future from yourself (or other version of yourself) will glitch because it's practically "time travel" (the ashes itself time traveled also, it's not supposed to exist in 2020).
I finally got my episode count for this sorted out on my currently watching list, and now it says I've watched…
Yeah, haha.
I complained about it last week or two when my fix was rejected. The reason was it's listed as "two episodes" in the official website when it just said "Part 1 of episode X" and "Part 2 of episode X". Secondly, it was inconsistent because there are other dramas listed as 16 episodes even though there were "Part 1" and "Part 2" in each episode.
I'm glad to see they finally decided to fix it. I hope it will be consistent with the rest of the new shows. Commercial breaks shouldn't or "Part this" and "Part that" shouldn't count as two or three episodes anyway.
I don't understand what benefits being close to your pets, for me they're domiscated animals. But after watching this, I now see why we should. They are no different from humans, they feel, require attention and love and understanding. Animals are generally afraid of humans but once we show them we care, be it dogs, cats, or any other animal, they do stick and stay loyal; and they do give us companionship and positive energy in their own ways.
Look at all those pets featured in the show. They understand the loneliness when we leave our homes. I can't believe they're actually waiting for us to return. I think I now have an answer to my question why our last pet seems to know when I'm about to arrive home even though I don't have a fix time, I would always catch him barking or watching outside. And then when our other pet was dying of old age, he kept fighting to stay alive; I had to talk to him to let go and that we'll be fine and we're thankful for him even if we weren't close, and told him to eat his last meal--he did and an hour later he peacefully slept.
Yeah, after watching this show, I now understand. I suddenly miss the dogs we had and wished we were close with them.
Family, comedy, melodramas are usually long. Take for example My Son-In-Law's Woman (120), Smile Dong Hae (159), Unstoppable High Kick (167). Each episode is 30-40 mins long.
It's hard to say how much of the show was about physics. For example, whenever they are trying to explain the concept of parallel worlds and time travel, they used the proper terms, flashed a short explanation on the screen, and in some cases the characters explained it in layman's terms. Also, in the latter half of the series, there were a lot of time travels.
The series is like an attempt to make a story out of different theories about quantum physics and time travel / multiple worlds. For me it was fun and I am glad to see writers are no longer afraid to try hard sci-fi.
I think it will depend if one understood what's happening in the show, especially that misunderstood relationship I hinted earlier. ^_^
True that. I read a theory about how there is only one timeline and what we're thinking as different timelines are only the states between 0 and 1. I imagine it as a "time bubble" between the exact time incursion in the past and the exact time the time traveller came from. So anything between these two points of time is where all the different versions exist, but outside, it's as-usual. (I think that's what the writer of "TIMES" used.)
Updated the earlier comment to reflect the corrected information. ^_^
But if it was a memory from before the four them met at the bar, hmm… they probably couldn't remember?
If Sigma was the first to use the uploader, then:
1: he shouldn't be in 2035;
2: that Sigma-2035 should not remember that "choosing" encounter
So… does it mean Sigma-2035 returned from the past? It's not possible either because that Sigma-2035 looks younger (or maybe his long hair made him look younger).
However, there is another possibility here.
The earlier theory that when they upload, the original stays and only a copy is sent to the past, hence the "copies" refer to themselves as "copies".
That means, the Sigma-2035 they saw in that bar is the original Sigma.
The next question is, why does he remember something the Sigma-copy did? Could it be that what a copy does, the original also remembers?
The next question then, if our Seo Hae-copy received the hand of her 2035-father, does it mean they were caught by Sigma-2035? It looks like it, considering how they accidentally saw Sigma-2035 in his hideout. He probably tried to catch them after they left but was only successful after Seo Hae-2035 already sent a copy of herself in 2020.
The copies knowing what's going to happen points to the possibility that they have some sort of communication with the future. For example, their downloader can detect if there's an incoming download (or an upload from the future). It means that the originals are sending information to change the past.
Then again … when Tae Sul first demonstrated his teleportation device, the original sugar cube disappeared and new sugar cube was created in a new location (the copy).
Did Tae Sul somehow changed the technology? Instead of removing the original, the original stays? Could that very well explain why there is a Sigma-2035 when he's supposedly was the first to time travel? Could that be the reason why Sigma-2020/copy knows a lot of information, like the hand delivery because Sigma-2025/original is informing him?
All throughout the series, they kept showing an ever-changing "future" and it is also hard to determine if our Seo Hae was remembering "her future" or the future the other Seo Hae came from. There were also "future" scenes which were not memories of either Seo Hae (ours or the other version) but rather the "new future" because of the changes currently happening.
I don't know if I can call that good writing because I can't tell either if it was intentional. I mean, there are writers who do want to keep things "muddied" or "confusing" because the story is not about it but rather the characters. Such as in this case, this is not about the future, this is not about alternate timelines, this is about the present and the relationship of Seo Hae, Tae Sul, and Sigma.
The question is, who did she eventually choose?
It is what I like about Korean writers of time travels, they use "quantum entanglement" as a way to "transfer memories/experiences" between one version and another. If you've seen "Alice" (2020), they did the same.
As for why he's glitching, at least based on the Sisyphus universe rules, Han Tae Sul (2020) got the memory of Han Tae Sul of the other timeline from 2030s. That should not happen. He practically became a "copy" just like everybody else who traveled to the past.
Our Seo Hae did not glitch when she touched the corpse of the Seo Hae of the other timeline because she was from 2035. She did not see any "future", she only saw the past of that other Seo Hae.
Also, Han Tae Sul (2020) said "time paradox", which established the rule in this universe as any knowledge of the future from yourself (or other version of yourself) will glitch because it's practically "time travel" (the ashes itself time traveled also, it's not supposed to exist in 2020).
I complained about it last week or two when my fix was rejected. The reason was it's listed as "two episodes" in the official website when it just said "Part 1 of episode X" and "Part 2 of episode X". Secondly, it was inconsistent because there are other dramas listed as 16 episodes even though there were "Part 1" and "Part 2" in each episode.
I'm glad to see they finally decided to fix it. I hope it will be consistent with the rest of the new shows. Commercial breaks shouldn't or "Part this" and "Part that" shouldn't count as two or three episodes anyway.
Here's the teaser and announcement (description): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alDkKy8ItoY
I don't understand what benefits being close to your pets, for me they're domiscated animals. But after watching this, I now see why we should. They are no different from humans, they feel, require attention and love and understanding. Animals are generally afraid of humans but once we show them we care, be it dogs, cats, or any other animal, they do stick and stay loyal; and they do give us companionship and positive energy in their own ways.
Look at all those pets featured in the show. They understand the loneliness when we leave our homes. I can't believe they're actually waiting for us to return. I think I now have an answer to my question why our last pet seems to know when I'm about to arrive home even though I don't have a fix time, I would always catch him barking or watching outside. And then when our other pet was dying of old age, he kept fighting to stay alive; I had to talk to him to let go and that we'll be fine and we're thankful for him even if we weren't close, and told him to eat his last meal--he did and an hour later he peacefully slept.
Yeah, after watching this show, I now understand. I suddenly miss the dogs we had and wished we were close with them.
Thank you for changing my mind. ^_^