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Sex, kisses, and generally intimacy are private in most Asian cultures. It is not the kind of thing seen on our public television. Are you not Asian?

Gladly, they don't dramaticized the poison thing. The plot moves on timely.

Around episode 15 or 16.

Is there any older actress willing to wear minimum make up to portray Chu Qiao, the slave general, to wear rug clothes, to look dirty and bloody, to be styled with messy hair, and to do raw fight with men? Can you name one?

This is just my view. Personally, I appreciate HTT's teenage energy, agility, and swiftness, to portray the powerful Chu Qiao.

Also, I appreciate them to not use kisses and love scenes to sell story and to please viewers. Thanks goodness we got no under water kissing, lip-to-lip medicine drinking, falling from a cliff like usual, a shining prince saving a damsel in distress, handsome and beautiful generals with heavy make up, and love declaration like daily routine.

Romantic feeling can be manifested through many ways. And this director managed to show that through different kind of interactions and it still works to stir our feeling.

The success of a drama depends on the attitude of viewers. You could have more positive view about Rebirth and 1.000 more viewer like you would turn the tide. Have a good watch.

Happy watching!

I am team Zhuge Yue ＼(^-^)／

It is solid then.

Even if you watch it from PA's perspective, even though they omitted certain wuxia elements, it is a solid story.

Six supporting characters died till this point.
1. Miss Hong Yu
2. Li Ce
3. The evil empress of Biantang + her lover
4. The usurper of Biantang throne
5. Lingyue Queen + all her loyalists
6. King Ximeng

In my eyes, Rebirth has slightly changed the genre to be less wuxia. They omit typical wuxia elements we saw in PA, like internal force, flying skill, hidden jutsu, and highly choreographed fights. Rebirth leans more on realistic elements such as militerism, palace politics, people struggle, and war. The action sequences are not so elaborated, but the plot progression is good.

For me, this change is acceptable. PA itself is a product of genre adaptability, from transmigration story (the novel) to wuxia.

The poisoning thing is reaching its climax around episode 22-25+ (the currently airing episodes).

I don't what your indicators for a story to be solid are. May you explain? So I can make some analysis.

I still watch it and will watch it to the end.

The complication is not about the amount of character, but its status as the continuation of Princess Agents. If you haven't watched PA before so you don't know the context surrounding the main characters, jumping right into Rebirth would cost you some confusion and sense of disconnection. But if you have watched PA, there is high possibility that you will feel disappointment because of the differences regarding names, settings, casts, etc. So, this drama is really unfortunate. It is aired not long after the super popular POJ, it is object to comparison, and requires some background knowledge to enjoy and appreciate it. The story itself is so good, dark and bloody, realistic with clear grand objective. The production quality is decent, it is fast paced, and efficient. But, people just cannot watch it due to the reasons I stated before.

Episode 1 is the result of things happened in previous project (PA). No matter you agree or not, this is a PA plotline continuation.

In ep 1, we can understand Yan Xun better because they provided enough flashbacks about him that happened in PA. Unfortunately, no flashback for Zhuge Yue to help us understand his temperament.

Had you ever watched PA and followed his character closely, this is no problem (in my case, I can easily connect his character here and there). For new viewers that treat Rebirth as stand alone, yeah that is the curse. They are losing much context.

Zhuge Yue's character seems archetypal, but a real story reader would move beyond what is apparent. His coldness is his outer clothes. In the interior, there are tons of responsibility as the heir of a spy family office, moral conflict against his own family and the king, desperateness and acceptance when facing Yan Xun (his best friend) and Xing'er (his love) hate toward him, and sacrifices he has to make. This complexities, the internal conflicts, are not easily shown in a flashback, because they are not external event (like what Yan Xun has). But we can understand it if we know the overall story.

I don't care. My own experience is the most important.

However it seems that for you, the failure of a project is more interesting than the story of the drama. Aren't you wasting your time for thing you don't actually enjoy?

Trailer always means to be intriguing haha

Time to stop watching for you. Don't torture yourself and waste you time anymore. You may watch other titles with perfect acting and better sense of justice for your goodness.

However, for me, the story gets better.

Stop watching Rebirth then and move on. Just enjoy dramas that best satisfy you, and don't forget to praise them in their pages.

Time to say goodbye to Rebirth then. You may go on and watch other drama with better chemistry and emotion, and without forced scenes between the leads, and with perfect acting from the casts. Have a nice day!

Yes, in the latest episode. I won't spoil you.