Mmm ... I don't understand, but I just hope not open ending. 😉
Yeah, I don’t understand anything either. I was just reading the caption up above and what she said was completely different than what he said so we won’t know. He said she said until we actually watched the last episode and how it goes, which is actually the very first thing that I will be watching so then I will know how many to watch in general since I’m definitely skipping these four from yesterday and today so that only leaves four. But I want to know how it ends before. I decide to see how many I will watch in general of the last four. I don’t want to see a rush to the finish line that’s for sure and there are quite a few villains that still need to be killed especially the herpes virus along with her evil 13th prince and a few others.
This drama writes the villains very well. I see them like a very huge mountain that prevent the main characters…
Right!! Rebirth is very strong. Though I have watched only 17 epusides so far, I am quite impressed with the grippy plot, and as you said, the story is incredibly solid👍 Love Rebirth!!
This drama writes the villains very well. I see them like a very huge mountain that prevent the main characters…
I really agree with this perspective, and I think you explained one of the strongest aspects of Rebirth beautifully. What makes the villains here stand out is that they’re not just “evil for the sake of being evil.” They feel like forces shaped by a brutal world—almost like products of the same system that the leads are trying to destroy. That’s why they feel like that “huge mountain” you described. They’re not just obstacles; they represent everything wrong with that world—power abuse, fear, trauma, and survival at any cost. I also agree with your comparison. In dramas like Pursuit of Jade or The Double, the “crazy prince/princess” archetype can sometimes feel one-dimensional—driven mostly by instability or obsession. It creates shock value, but not always depth. In contrast, Rebirth takes time to show why these characters became that way. Their cruelty feels disturbing, but also grounded, which makes their downfall more impactful rather than just satisfying on a surface level. And that connection to the main theme is what really elevates the story. The villains aren’t separate from the narrative—they are the embodiment of the dystopian cycle the leads want to break. So when the FL and ML fight for freedom, peace, and dignity, it’s not just a personal goal—it becomes ideological. They’re challenging an entire system, not just individuals. That’s why their journey feels so powerful. The darker the world gets, the brighter their ideals shine. It creates that strong contrast—darkness vs hope—that keeps the story emotionally gripping and meaningful. Overall, I think you’re right: the writing is tight, intentional, and thematically consistent. Everything—from the villains to the heroes—serves one core message, and that’s what makes the drama feel so solid and memorable.
Ep 20, I didn't expect that Li Yan was the empress's son!!! 🫨 what a surprising development, omg how will it turn out between him & his half bro Ci'er?!?
Today’s episodes were very bloody, I hope the 13th Prince will have a horrible death. His father is awful too. Likewise, Yan Xun only proves how cowardly and useless he is, he doesn’t deserve the title of King of Great Yan, he hasn’t done anything for his people. General Huan is awesome, she truly carries herself like a real general. I hope she gets more roles like this in the future.
This is actor Jin Han in chapter 25? I couldn't find his name credited in that series on MDL, but despite the character's makeup, I think I'm not mistaken.
Why do I prefer more parts of yanxu with achu thank zhu yue 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭he’s obsessed with her …love my man like that …did I see the end he’s gonna marry helian or what 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔ending ots
question for the real watchers and not haters... how is the drama? I've seen some clips online and want to give…
The story is good and unpredictable. This drama's quite heavy in politic, so it's not everyone's cup of tea. If you like a political drama where everyone has hidden agenda, and show many power struggles, you may enjoy this. Oh. It's fast pace, so you may need to slow down when the story is too much to handle.
question for the real watchers and not haters... how is the drama? I've seen some clips online and want to give…
Well for me who watched PA before, read some spoilers from the novel and patiently waited for a season 2 to come, it's great!
Storywise: it is a continuation of Princess Agents but with a twist. If you watched PA before, I suggest you lowered down your expectations because they omitted some elements from PA to better suit the current plot line. Story is fast paced with lots of action, romance is wholesome. Politics is dark, messy with lots of court intrigue, deception and revenge. You also need to pay attention to details, because there's a lot of subtext and implied meanings in the script.
Characters: they are great, especially the annoying ones. XD You'll end up admiring them or hating them, some will wrenched your heart out and make you cry, others will surely make your blood boil, or make you laugh lol
Acting: I'd say everybody did great and I'm really impressed. I cried many times while watching.
The story is so good! It is dark, mature, and angsty. There is balance between romance, palace politics, and military.…
I completely agree with this take. What makes the story stand out for me is how it doesn’t try to please instantly—it demands patience, and that’s where its strength lies. The dark and mature tone really adds weight to every decision the characters make, especially within the palace politics and military conflicts. Nothing feels shallow; every move has consequences. I also love how the pacing is fast but still meaningful. It doesn’t drag, yet it manages to deliver powerful, emotional moments that really stay with you. The themes of freedom, self-determination, and brotherhood are not just there for decoration—they’re deeply felt in the characters’ struggles and growth. And that metaphor is so accurate—it really is like a hard shell. At first, it may feel difficult to fully appreciate, but once you understand its layers, you realize how beautifully written it is. This drama isn’t for instant gratification, but for viewers who are willing to invest their time and emotions, it gives something much deeper and more rewarding.
It’s not hard for kiss-asses to brag about how good it is, but the ratings prove otherwise. Let me show you…
@Fanstar99, if you can't move on from PA, don't start watching Rebirth, because Rebirth is not a direct sequel but rather a continuation of the story. Changes were made but they are logical changes that reinforce the current plot. I also want know about Chu Qiao's origin, the secret of her past, her sealed powers and her mother's sect. But after learning, that it wasn't in the novel because Chu Qiao was originally a transmigrator, I accepted the possibility that if ever there's a second season of PA, the production will deviate from the PA drama.
Anyways, I love the current plot, it's more grounded in reality. The warring kingdoms, politics, the dark side of humans, survival of the fittest, and what it means to survive and live.
I really wish he would grow to be a more mature man. But when he burnt the letter, I was speechless. It is his…
The blue bird thingy from the Lingyue king and queen (I think ZY kept the one, and only gave one to the king).
All well said about YX. I was almost happy seeing him reunite with ZC in tomorrow’s previews - they are made for each other. I said as much in my brief review of their characters - “Yan Xun is the most disloyal and hateful character in the series. His madness was unquenchable. It did not matter how many people died or how powerful he became, his hunger for vengeance became insatiable. Even when he was defeated by CQ and was implored to think about his father and his people, he remained untrustworthy and a liar. He is really a good match for Zhao Chun. They should have lasted longer. Zhao Chun’s character is the most vengeful and vitriolic character ever created. She will literally do harm to herself and ‘loved ones’ just to hate. Her plot armour became downright ridiculous. And so was she - right from the start when she believed that YX will love her in spite of her father killing his entire family. To the end, where she cast away her brother Zhao Che, who had looked after her in the earlier years, for the 13th prince Zhao Yang who is unfit to lead or even look after himself. I guess one can never make sense of such persons, YX & ZC alike!!”
Love Rebirth!!
What makes the villains here stand out is that they’re not just “evil for the sake of being evil.” They feel like forces shaped by a brutal world—almost like products of the same system that the leads are trying to destroy. That’s why they feel like that “huge mountain” you described. They’re not just obstacles; they represent everything wrong with that world—power abuse, fear, trauma, and survival at any cost.
I also agree with your comparison. In dramas like Pursuit of Jade or The Double, the “crazy prince/princess” archetype can sometimes feel one-dimensional—driven mostly by instability or obsession. It creates shock value, but not always depth. In contrast, Rebirth takes time to show why these characters became that way. Their cruelty feels disturbing, but also grounded, which makes their downfall more impactful rather than just satisfying on a surface level.
And that connection to the main theme is what really elevates the story. The villains aren’t separate from the narrative—they are the embodiment of the dystopian cycle the leads want to break. So when the FL and ML fight for freedom, peace, and dignity, it’s not just a personal goal—it becomes ideological. They’re challenging an entire system, not just individuals.
That’s why their journey feels so powerful. The darker the world gets, the brighter their ideals shine. It creates that strong contrast—darkness vs hope—that keeps the story emotionally gripping and meaningful.
Overall, I think you’re right: the writing is tight, intentional, and thematically consistent. Everything—from the villains to the heroes—serves one core message, and that’s what makes the drama feel so solid and memorable.
Likewise, Yan Xun only proves how cowardly and useless he is, he doesn’t deserve the title of King of Great Yan, he hasn’t done anything for his people.
General Huan is awesome, she truly carries herself like a real general. I hope she gets more roles like this in the future.
Storywise: it is a continuation of Princess Agents but with a twist. If you watched PA before, I suggest you lowered down your expectations because they omitted some elements from PA to better suit the current plot line. Story is fast paced with lots of action, romance is wholesome. Politics is dark, messy with lots of court intrigue, deception and revenge. You also need to pay attention to details, because there's a lot of subtext and implied meanings in the script.
Characters: they are great, especially the annoying ones. XD You'll end up admiring them or hating them, some will wrenched your heart out and make you cry, others will surely make your blood boil, or make you laugh lol
Acting: I'd say everybody did great and I'm really impressed. I cried many times while watching.
I also love how the pacing is fast but still meaningful. It doesn’t drag, yet it manages to deliver powerful, emotional moments that really stay with you. The themes of freedom, self-determination, and brotherhood are not just there for decoration—they’re deeply felt in the characters’ struggles and growth.
And that metaphor is so accurate—it really is like a hard shell. At first, it may feel difficult to fully appreciate, but once you understand its layers, you realize how beautifully written it is. This drama isn’t for instant gratification, but for viewers who are willing to invest their time and emotions, it gives something much deeper and more rewarding.
Anyways, I love the current plot, it's more grounded in reality. The warring kingdoms, politics, the dark side of humans, survival of the fittest, and what it means to survive and live.
All well said about YX. I was almost happy seeing him reunite with ZC in tomorrow’s previews - they are made for each other. I said as much in my brief review of their characters - “Yan Xun is the most disloyal and hateful character in the series. His madness was unquenchable. It did not matter how many people died or how powerful he became, his hunger for vengeance became insatiable. Even when he was defeated by CQ and was implored to think about his father and his people, he remained untrustworthy and a liar. He is really a good match for Zhao Chun. They should have lasted longer. Zhao Chun’s character is the most vengeful and vitriolic character ever created. She will literally do harm to herself and ‘loved ones’ just to hate. Her plot armour became downright ridiculous. And so was she - right from the start when she believed that YX will love her in spite of her father killing his entire family. To the end, where she cast away her brother Zhao Che, who had looked after her in the earlier years, for the 13th prince Zhao Yang who is unfit to lead or even look after himself. I guess one can never make sense of such persons, YX & ZC alike!!”