31K wow! Since tencent recorded heat index, only 6 other shows have hit the 31k mark. This is now the 7th, huge achievement. Check out the celebration photo they posted (posted in photo section on MDL), so funny, can't wait to actually see them in those outfits
I might be alone in this, but both are liars and manipulatives. Xu Yan's backstory didn't make her holier than…
Hahaha you know more about me than that stuff so I believe what you say.
As for ex husband chasing the ex wife or vice versa, I really don't mind either way whatever fits with the story, but I do agree in the drama, especially when comparing FL and ML's backgrounds and resources, ML should and would be fine and in a greater position to rise up without her, than she would be without him. Just considering their family background and resources.
The acting is so goated in this drama that attorney turnout to be has a mission ,for a second I really thought…
Same I was thinking Fang lei would realize ML would never go for her and have a redemption arc with the lawyer, but it was a nice twist. Also shows how forward planning ML is.
I'm beginning to hate him now! I don't want him for XY but still hoping for character development
Yeh I agree, I'm looking forward to seeing his character development, I'm sure it will be good as the writers have done a greta job so far. But I'm not sure if they are right for each other.
I might be alone in this, but both are liars and manipulatives. Xu Yan's backstory didn't make her holier than…
Yeh and she will be, we see from previews and spoilers she steps down from her news job to start fresh. But the question is what consequences will ML have for lying. I feel like he will have some as well, especially from his father. I feel like he needs to start his own business, get away from the grip of his father. But having the FL have to force her way out of a toxic relationship isn't right, no one should be forced to be in a relationship they don't want to be in. Thats where I believe he is in the wrong more than FL. She is int he wrong for lying 100% same as him, but forcing her to continue the relationship isn't right.
In the same sense, you say he was right, she should keep lying as the truth would ruin the Shen families reputation. But that should not be her concern, that is also his and the Shem families consequence for lying.
I dont mind a grey, ruthless or cunning ML. But I totally dislike when a man use woman as tools for his business.…
Yeh, I really dislike Feng lei, but the way he flirted, was kind to her only to ruthless abandon her after, and show no concern for her well-being, was quite cruel by him. Just because we don't like her, doesn't mean we can also ignore his treatment of her.
I dont mind a grey, ruthless or cunning ML. But I totally dislike when a man use woman as tools for his business.…
I think for me, it's him putting his business in front of others wellbeing. Like once he realized FL wanted out of the marriage, he should have let her out. But putting his business in front of her well being doesn't sit right with me.
I might be alone in this, but both are liars and manipulatives. Xu Yan's backstory didn't make her holier than…
Thats the difference though, she wants to start over right and cleanly, he doesn't. To put business and career in front of another persons wellbeing isn't right in my opinion. You might say prioritizing business first is the right choice, and thats ok, having different opinions is fine. To be clear, I definitely also blame FL, she isn't innocent in all this, but it's his actions after the truth comes out that bother me.
And maybe we differ in opinion and thats ok, but I think definitely lies and manipulation can have sincere motives. Maybe not selfless motives, but definitely can be done in a way that doesn't hurt others, and it's the conscience of her willing and wanting to tell the truth, where as he had no inclination. Shows a difference in conscience.
But we can disagree thats ok, thats why he's a well written character. Theres no one way too view him.
Btw worth pointing out, differing opinions and changing opinions on a character like ML is good. It shows depth, it shows character development, great script writing and great acting. Having different opinions and changing opinions on a certain character, especially when they're written to be morally grey, show its a well written and acted character.
I might be alone in this, but both are liars and manipulatives. Xu Yan's backstory didn't make her holier than…
I don't know about whether there's a prenup but divorce wise, from previews seems peaceful once they have both agreed.
I understand the years building his career, but keeping her and forcing her to go to events and be in front of the camera and have interviews, pretending to be a happy couple, is still for me, not right even if it's to protect his career. And then when they get home, he pretty much tells her, he's in control, so do what he says. For me, it's not right. Again, not irredeemable, but not right, especially after she apologizes and wants to start clean.
Also the way he treats Fang Lei. Yes Fang lei is detestable, but the way he flirted with her, was kind to her, then ruthlessly threw her aside and threatened her with his lawyer when she served her purpose, are not the actions of a good person.
One person lies and manipulates with sincere motives and to be fair, never hurts anyone with her lies and manipulations, unless they target her first. But, ML is doing it without concern for the other's wellbeing. It's the seemingly lack of conscience that worries me a bit.
30,622, new record for 2025 tencent heat index (beating its own record from yesterday). Officially the number 7 highest heat index on tencent EVER! Still climbing, 31k tonight hopefully.
I wonder if people like him will change even after going through some kind of retribution of sorts... ?πIt's…
yeh 100%, if not for like BTS showing them back together, I would think they never get back together at all, but as long as she's happy I'm ok either way
After watching 13 episode he is already beyond redemption now no matter what kind of backstory they gives him…
Thats why I fear, maybe the writers pushed him too far. If they intend to redeem him, maybe they made him a bit too dislikable for some people. Ofocurse if they don't intend for the to get ack together, then no problem.
I might be alone in this, but both are liars and manipulatives. Xu Yan's backstory didn't make her holier than…
Differing opinions are good and always happy to discuss, thats why I love MDL. I'm with you about the lying and manipulation. But I think it's the reason behind the lie, she was sincere vs him not. Also, after the lies exposed, she asks him for start over, she pretty much begs him, saying she love shim, accepts his child, apologizes and wants to start over. But he refuses. I understand that as well, it's his right to refuse. But it's his insistence to continue the sham arrange that's too much for me. Not sure if you have seem ep 13 and 14. But after the truth comes out, he pretty much insists they continue the marriage for his job and appearance.And blackmails her about loosing her own job, if they divorce. I think for me, thats too much. Thats just my personal belief, happy to hear different thoughts. And I don't think he's beyond redemption, but I think he's right at the line. Just for me anyway.
You know, I have to say, I have said before we have to wait and see how ML's backstory before judging. And to be clear when I said that I was not saying what he's done wasn't bad and he wasn't a grey character, but I wanted to know his backstory first.
BUT ep 11-14, making me really question how they are going to redeem him. I'm someone that prefers to give people the benefit of doubt, in dramas and in real life. But man even I'm struggling to see how he gets redeemed and how FL accepts him back. If it weren't for spoilers and bts, I would geuinely think they never get back together (which might be for the best) and in comes another ML like Yu Yi Ming that is better for her. Or a classic drama storyline, FL hires a divorce lawyer, and they fall in love instead.
But I hope if the writers do plan to redeem him, they don't push him to far over the line that any redemption doesn't seem enough (I think they already might have crossed that line). Cause right now, I'm saying, would be best if they never got back together and she moves on completely, because idk how he's redeemable at this point.
I'm really struggling to see how the story will redeem ML, or if he even can be redeemed. But hey, thats a sign of a good drama, making people look forward to what happens next.
Since tencent recorded heat index, only 6 other shows have hit the 31k mark. This is now the 7th, huge achievement.
Check out the celebration photo they posted (posted in photo section on MDL), so funny, can't wait to actually see them in those outfits
As for ex husband chasing the ex wife or vice versa, I really don't mind either way whatever fits with the story, but I do agree in the drama, especially when comparing FL and ML's backgrounds and resources, ML should and would be fine and in a greater position to rise up without her, than she would be without him. Just considering their family background and resources.
In the same sense, you say he was right, she should keep lying as the truth would ruin the Shen families reputation. But that should not be her concern, that is also his and the Shem families consequence for lying.
And maybe we differ in opinion and thats ok, but I think definitely lies and manipulation can have sincere motives. Maybe not selfless motives, but definitely can be done in a way that doesn't hurt others, and it's the conscience of her willing and wanting to tell the truth, where as he had no inclination. Shows a difference in conscience.
But we can disagree thats ok, thats why he's a well written character. Theres no one way too view him.
Btw nice profile pic, so excited for FH.
I understand the years building his career, but keeping her and forcing her to go to events and be in front of the camera and have interviews, pretending to be a happy couple, is still for me, not right even if it's to protect his career. And then when they get home, he pretty much tells her, he's in control, so do what he says. For me, it's not right. Again, not irredeemable, but not right, especially after she apologizes and wants to start clean.
Also the way he treats Fang Lei. Yes Fang lei is detestable, but the way he flirted with her, was kind to her, then ruthlessly threw her aside and threatened her with his lawyer when she served her purpose, are not the actions of a good person.
One person lies and manipulates with sincere motives and to be fair, never hurts anyone with her lies and manipulations, unless they target her first. But, ML is doing it without concern for the other's wellbeing. It's the seemingly lack of conscience that worries me a bit.
30,622, new record for 2025 tencent heat index (beating its own record from yesterday).
Officially the number 7 highest heat index on tencent EVER!
Still climbing, 31k tonight hopefully.
BUT ep 11-14, making me really question how they are going to redeem him. I'm someone that prefers to give people the benefit of doubt, in dramas and in real life. But man even I'm struggling to see how he gets redeemed and how FL accepts him back. If it weren't for spoilers and bts, I would geuinely think they never get back together (which might be for the best) and in comes another ML like Yu Yi Ming that is better for her. Or a classic drama storyline, FL hires a divorce lawyer, and they fall in love instead.
But I hope if the writers do plan to redeem him, they don't push him to far over the line that any redemption doesn't seem enough (I think they already might have crossed that line). Cause right now, I'm saying, would be best if they never got back together and she moves on completely, because idk how he's redeemable at this point.
I'm really struggling to see how the story will redeem ML, or if he even can be redeemed. But hey, thats a sign of a good drama, making people look forward to what happens next.
Also, heat at 30,448.