Yessssss👏 Mic drop. Can I just say the other series that made me want to put my hair out was the KBL Something's…
Something's Not Right was hard to watch too, I agree, but I don't remember me being as frustrated with it, maybe because the airing schedule was better, we got two episodes a week, so it ended more quickly. Here they've been giving us one episode a week, and they are very short, too. Episode 12 is split into two parts, so there will be two weeks more to wonder wth is wrong with all people in this show.
I don't know how they've managed to do it, but this is extremely hard to watch because with the exception of Jaemin, all characters are either unlikable or I can't sympathise with them.
I can't warm up to Yooha. I get he's meant to be sympathetic, but after today's episode, it's clear why he has never been able to get a proper job and struggles all the time. He's too meek, too passive, too forgiving to all around him and very easy to take advantage of. He gave that horrible woman who manipulated and humiliated him even further the hand and forgave his whiny, selfish, equally horrible, although in another way, brother. The brother who ran away, lied to him and let him deal with his mess because of pure selfishness.
Minwoo was stupid enough to tell everything to Suhyon in the first place and set all of what happened in motion. I can't warm up to him, too. He acted exactly as passive as Yooha, but to be fair to Yohaa, considering their situation, Minwoo should've done the first step. Instead, he handed him to Suhyon in a silver platter, with the brother's help.
I don't think I've watched another BL series in which I've been frustrated with all main characters. I'll finish this, because there's just one episode left, but I really hope this will stay an exception.
I absolutely agree with your comment. To me Ramil's response was the best and most touching one. Definitely the…
I agree 100% with everything you said. Ramil is the most interesting character in the series and Khanin and especially Charan are bland, as characters and as a couple. Unfortunately, although they are the main characters, I'm more interested to see what will happen to any other character (Ava, Jay, Calvin, Paytai, Ramil, all of the princes) more than in watching them or their relationship.
Did Thiwhit really try to hit on his brother? I was like O_O, he's got to be insane. It was a good thing Thada confirmed that Thiwhit is not his real brother, but only the son of his father's second wife, because I'd missed that and was just stunned. So it's really personal with Thiwhit, it's not just the company, it's more.
I saw a comment say it’s because Sheng Shao You likes someone who he can protect and not someone who is more…
Well, if so, he can't pretend forever, at some time it will backfire.
Of course, winning his love interest the normal way wouldn't be as interesting to watch. :-) I just hope we'll find out more about his motivation to act this way. He practically has invented a new person.
I'm sure Hua Yong thinks he has a good reason to lie, but I'll still ask this: what happened to the good old "if you like him, then just ask him out" rule? Is it really necessary to manipulate someone into falling for you by pretending you're someone you're not?
About the second couple: I'm pretty sure that Shen Wenlang was jealous, maybe unknowingly, but still, that Gao Tu has someone, and this was why he said what he said.
They had a fan meeting for the last episode. Does anyone know how it went? Was the show at least moderately successful in Thailand? We can't expect very much with a plot like this, but if there were enough viewers, then maybe we'll indeed get more (a special episode or season 2).
Actually, Khanin's speech was the only one that dealt with the economy of the region and the pollution issue.All…
Nope, an European with a dual citizenship (Bulgaria and Germany) here. : ) Nice to meet you!
I have to say I really enjoyed our conversation, despite our different opinions. I absolutely agree that most people (not all) vote for economy, although currently in Europe, there are also other issues that influence the voting and are gaining on importance.
Actually, Khanin's speech was the only one that dealt with the economy of the region and the pollution issue.All…
I think we'll have to agree to disagree here.
If you interpret "personal" as in to be personally affected by something, then yes, obviously Khanin is not coughing and in bad health because of the pollution, unlike Ramil and Ava, who have experienced the issues they talked about on their backs directly, but have also seen people they love suffer (Paytai and Ava's coach Mira). However, Khanin experienced firsthand Jay's sister not being able to take a breath in front of him and a person affected by the pullution bodily and verbally attacked him. All of it has obviously left a very big personal impression on him, this is why I consider it a personal agenda of his, even if his situation is not exactly like Ramil's or Ava's.
About the speeches, we have to agree to disagree too, I found Khanin's speech to be the least engaging one. This is a matter of opinion. IMO, economy isn't more important than human rights, but this is a subject for another conversation.
Actually, Khanin's speech was the only one that dealt with the economy of the region and the pollution issue.All…
Khanin was asked about the economy unlike the other two, so he had to reply accordingly. The pollution issue that he included was personal to him, he saw it with his own eyes, just like Ramil and Ava's personal experience.
I'll edit my comment and add that Ramil's speech was the most impactful and moving for me.
I regret starting this and I'll also stop watching the other CBL until (or rather if) all episodes are released.
Either you keep your airing schedule you yourselves announced way in advance or don't bother releasing the series at all. If there is a good reason to postpone, tell us what it is. But like that... nope.
They really are trying very hard to convince us that Ramil's speech wasn't the best and he wouldn't have won on his own when for me at least, it's so obvious that he was the best and most moving of the three and he might've won on his own, although personal sympathies are always a factor and this is why public voting is unreliable at times. I think Ramil might be my favourite character in this show. I can't hope for him to win, though, because his father is honestly horrible. It's a wonder Ramil has turned out the way he is.
How come that the simple smile Ramil/Paytai exchanged and the emotional conversation Jay and Calvin had at the end of this episode moved me a lot more than about any of the Khanin/Charan scenes? Is there any sense or meaning for this personal relationship they've got? The plot would've stayed the same without it, which is not the case with the other two couples. But this is my personal opinion. It seems that I need some sort of conflict (it doesn't have to be between the characters, it might be from outside) to make a relationship more interesting to me.
The ending was too much, I agree with everyone here. It's either an universe where Victor and Nankrai are both dead or an universe in which Tontae is dead. Both together don't mix. There might be a sense of this somewhere, but I'm still trying to figure it out. Is it because Tontae can end up with only one of them, and the universe doesn't want the other one to suffer, so it's better for him not to exist in their lives at all?
That being said, they did try to make something different and I give them credit for it. We had a very unusual love triangle in which the left-out party was a good and honest person who cared deeply about the protagonist and never really tried to intervene in his romance with Victor, even if at some time he admitted his feelings, for which I can't blame him. We had the beautiful setting, the romantic surroundings and the general atmosphere of the series was fascinating. I personally anticipated every episode. The annoying girl that was after Nankrai was unnecessary and grating, but other than that, they did a good job with the characters. All in all, I enjoyed the series despite the ending. :)
I've been thinking about what my biggest problem with this show is and after episode 10, I finally know.
The story is meant to engage you, to pull you in, to make you care, but the way it's presented fails to do what's supposed to do. The pretty setting and the money thrown can't make up for that, unfortunately. It feels flat, superficial and passionless despite the serious issues, and even though I'm really trying, I don't care about the main characters at all. The first episodes were ok, but it's been getting worse.
I know taste is subjective, but for the life of me I'll never get why this is supposed to be the best and most popular Bl show at the moment, at least according to the trending numbers.
What I find a pity is that they did not translate the information about the locations
Oh yes! I'm planning a vacation in Thailand and I prefer mountains to beach. How can I visit these beautiful places if I don't even know what they're called?
I don't care, I'm still team Nankrai. The Tontae/Victor romance felt very lukewarm, very vacation-romance thingy - nice, but ultimately forgettable. In contrast, Nankrai's love is very palpable, devoted, strong and honest, even if one-sided. IMO, there's also more chemistry between Tontae and Nankrai than between Tontae and Victor.
Of course, the most probable ending is that Tontae won't end up with either of them.
Where is everyone watching episode 7 already? Viki won’t give it to me till tomorrow lol
It's on GagaOOLala and it airs at the time shown in the ticker, although I think it crashed the site today... I had to refresh for 10 minutes until finally getting to watch it.
I mean to be fair Ming never cheated on Joe or pushed him over a railing essentially killing him so you can’t…
It's true they are not exactly the same, bur the general situations are similar. Ming didn't cheat on Joe, but smacked him on the head with a bat (which could've killed him or at least seriously injured him) and chained him up out of pure selfishness and jealousy. We can argue about what's worse - the cheating or this, but I don't think either Charlie or Ming are winning here. The pushing over the railing didn't look planned to me, the situation escalated, not that this makes anything better.
And while I agree that Joe was an adult and it was his choice to take the dangerous job that led to his death, I'll say that it was a direct consequence of what Ming and Tong did to him and they were partly to blame.
Long story short, I'm just happy that Armin is using his second chance to change things unlike Joe.
I can't warm up to Yooha. I get he's meant to be sympathetic, but after today's episode, it's clear why he has never been able to get a proper job and struggles all the time. He's too meek, too passive, too forgiving to all around him and very easy to take advantage of. He gave that horrible woman who manipulated and humiliated him even further the hand and forgave his whiny, selfish, equally horrible, although in another way, brother. The brother who ran away, lied to him and let him deal with his mess because of pure selfishness.
Minwoo was stupid enough to tell everything to Suhyon in the first place and set all of what happened in motion. I can't warm up to him, too. He acted exactly as passive as Yooha, but to be fair to Yohaa, considering their situation, Minwoo should've done the first step. Instead, he handed him to Suhyon in a silver platter, with the brother's help.
I don't think I've watched another BL series in which I've been frustrated with all main characters. I'll finish this, because there's just one episode left, but I really hope this will stay an exception.
Of course, winning his love interest the normal way wouldn't be as interesting to watch. :-) I just hope we'll find out more about his motivation to act this way. He practically has invented a new person.
About the second couple: I'm pretty sure that Shen Wenlang was jealous, maybe unknowingly, but still, that Gao Tu has someone, and this was why he said what he said.
I have to say I really enjoyed our conversation, despite our different opinions. I absolutely agree that most people (not all) vote for economy, although currently in Europe, there are also other issues that influence the voting and are gaining on importance.
If you interpret "personal" as in to be personally affected by something, then yes, obviously Khanin is not coughing and in bad health because of the pollution, unlike Ramil and Ava, who have experienced the issues they talked about on their backs directly, but have also seen people they love suffer (Paytai and Ava's coach Mira). However, Khanin experienced firsthand Jay's sister not being able to take a breath in front of him and a person affected by the pullution bodily and verbally attacked him. All of it has obviously left a very big personal impression on him, this is why I consider it a personal agenda of his, even if his situation is not exactly like Ramil's or Ava's.
About the speeches, we have to agree to disagree too, I found Khanin's speech to be the least engaging one. This is a matter of opinion. IMO, economy isn't more important than human rights, but this is a subject for another conversation.
I'll edit my comment and add that Ramil's speech was the most impactful and moving for me.
Either you keep your airing schedule you yourselves announced way in advance or don't bother releasing the series at all. If there is a good reason to postpone, tell us what it is. But like that... nope.
How come that the simple smile Ramil/Paytai exchanged and the emotional conversation Jay and Calvin had at the end of this episode moved me a lot more than about any of the Khanin/Charan scenes? Is there any sense or meaning for this personal relationship they've got? The plot would've stayed the same without it, which is not the case with the other two couples. But this is my personal opinion. It seems that I need some sort of conflict (it doesn't have to be between the characters, it might be from outside) to make a relationship more interesting to me.
I fully expected Jihoon to just shoot Aim while he was screaming that his era has come and was very surprised he didn't.
That being said, they did try to make something different and I give them credit for it. We had a very unusual love triangle in which the left-out party was a good and honest person who cared deeply about the protagonist and never really tried to intervene in his romance with Victor, even if at some time he admitted his feelings, for which I can't blame him. We had the beautiful setting, the romantic surroundings and the general atmosphere of the series was fascinating. I personally anticipated every episode. The annoying girl that was after Nankrai was unnecessary and grating, but other than that, they did a good job with the characters. All in all, I enjoyed the series despite the ending. :)
The story is meant to engage you, to pull you in, to make you care, but the way it's presented fails to do what's supposed to do. The pretty setting and the money thrown can't make up for that, unfortunately. It feels flat, superficial and passionless despite the serious issues, and even though I'm really trying, I don't care about the main characters at all. The first episodes were ok, but it's been getting worse.
I know taste is subjective, but for the life of me I'll never get why this is supposed to be the best and most popular Bl show at the moment, at least according to the trending numbers.
Of course, the most probable ending is that Tontae won't end up with either of them.
And while I agree that Joe was an adult and it was his choice to take the dangerous job that led to his death, I'll say that it was a direct consequence of what Ming and Tong did to him and they were partly to blame.
Long story short, I'm just happy that Armin is using his second chance to change things unlike Joe.