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on episode 2 and so far CZY has me twirling my hair and swinging my feet like a shy middle school girl 😭😭😭😭😭 I can't do this

exactly!!!!!

why are sageuk writers allergic to the main lead becoming king in the end?

While different interpretations of love may exist, not all interpretations qualify as genuine love. Many individuals mistakenly believe they have found love, unaware of what lies beyond their current situation, settling for less. In this particular case, the writers themselves depict love as codependency, responsibility, and commitment, which are more akin to the vows of marriage rather than true love. Because that’s the definition of love that they have over there.

It’s tricky because we often lack the ability to define what love truly is, as our perspectives are limited by our own life experiences and short lives. While you may believe that what you have is love, it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re correct. Genuine love exists beyond our grasp, and most people hold onto a diluted version of its true essence. Unless you grew up seeing real genuine love around you it’s hard to recognize it.

to be fair you’re right. it’s very realistic, most couples don’t make sense

i’m going to be a real bitch and say that I doubt what they have is love, it’s codependency. all i have to say is that love doesn’t neglect you, it’s unconditional, warm, doesn’t cheat on you. what they have isn’t love, she’s delusional. I understand what you’re saying, but it’s not love, it just isn’t.

Her brain, did a factory reset and suddenly she wants him back??? what about him being selfish, not wanting kids and having the emotional availability and personality of a piece of cardboard ?? she chose a bum over a man willing to lick the ground she walks on?? if this is a representation of the state of mind of modern japanese women, I think someone should introduce them to the sprinkle sprinkle ideology. this is so pathetic girl get up.

cannot understand for the life of me why she went back to that bum

she went back to yo

I see that everyone is here for the same reason. all I can say is that the rating going down overnight is well deserved.

"I can't live without you Michi" Duh you're a dusty bum

great I’m on episode 13, that’s interesting

No, she’s not annoying or severely out of touch. Her spoiled behaviour is naive more than anything . They just don’t really address her privileges and nepotism. Both of those things are seen as cool hidden secrets. Its only frustrating if you’re like me 😭

I think that most people, who’ve consumed various forms of media, are able to differentiate between reality and fiction. However, we also collectively agree to suspend our disbelief and still engage with media as if it were real, as this adds to the enjoyment of the experience. I know that this is fictional, but I still find it valuable to discuss the decisions made by the writers.

Yes, you can argue that there are worse nepotism offenders in dramaland, but this doesn’t negate the fact that from a moral standpoint concealing your true position is a form of power imbalance.

Also I beg to differ, a lot of the conflicts got resolved by her ability to outsource help because she is powerful and well connected. Her success and outward personality at work is only due to the absence of any genuine reasons for her to fear confrontation or negative repercussions. Can the writers at least address it?

To sum up, my main concern with this drama, despite my overall enjoyment of it, lies in its failure to address nepotism adequately and the lack of self-awareness in the main character. For viewers who have class awareness, this can be frustrating to watch.

I think that she was still written to have spoiled traits, the drama itself repeatedly emphasizes the inside joke between her and the male lead about her refusal to accept delayed gratification. While there might be nothing inherently wrong with that, it is evident that her character is written to always expect to receive something. Her grandpa also ssaid that he sent her to work because she was too selfish. We also can especially see her spoiled behaviour it in the flashbacks.

I can't help but wonder what the writers were thinking when they crafted the FL's character as a spoiled heiress embarking on a journey to prove her independence as a woman. She secures a senior position through nepotism and thrives solely because she knows there's support behind the scenes. It's hard to believe that someone with a background in broadcasting, lacking any experience in navigation systems, could keep up with the engineering team. Did the writers actually intend for us to like her?

She takes pleasure in concealing her true power from her unsuspecting coworkers who mistakenly see her as one of them. Meanwhile, she belittles the working class ML, dismissing him as too meek towards his superiors. Meanwhile her audacity and fearlessness ONLY stem from the certainty that she'll emerge unscathed no matter what kind of mess she creates. Am I supposed to find her cool and relatable every time she scoffs in indifference when her poor coworkers fawn over her hidden connections and riches.

l like this drama, but the way it glorifies nepotism leaves a bitter aftertaste in my mouth. What is the message here?

My theory is that Michi continues to return to Yo due to her strong sense of responsibility and commitment stemming from their vows of marriage. She holds on to traditional values and suppresses her own feelings to maintain harmony. This behavior is evident in the latest episode, where she forgives him and rationalizes his infidelity. I hope the show addresses this aspect of her personality. Also I think she fears being abandoned by Yo because like she said on last episode, “Yo is her only friend” (crazy?? girl go get some friends)

Yo, on the other hand, lacks any valid excuses. I find it hard to believe her claim of "running away from his problems." Having a medical issue does not justify withholding love and affection for years. He displays cruelty, selfishness, and prioritizes his own emotions over Michi's evident breakdown in front of him.

In my opinion, Makoto's wife isn't solely avoiding intimacy due to fear of pregnancy; she also takes advantage of Makoto's submissive nature, relying on him for all the relationship's responsibilities while advancing her own career. She didn't even worry about him leaving her earlier, being confident that he would always stay.

Overall, I’m genuinely enjoying this drama. The acting is good, and there's a certain depth to it. However, I truly hope that certain aspects will be addressed, and that the ending won't be disappointing.

Yupp but I also acknowledge that ultimately, the interpretation of commitment and the expectations placed on partners can vary based on individual values, cultural norms, and personal experiences. Different individuals and cultures may have varying beliefs and values when it comes to the sanctity and absolute nature of commitment. Some may place great importance on vows and traditional values, emphasizing the endurance of a relationship regardless of circumstances.

Other people like us with a more practical outlook may believe that commitment should be rooted in genuine love and mutual effort, rather than just fulfilling societal expectations, maintaining a legal bond or vow.

You can interpret this drama from two very different perspectives depending on the person you are: an idealistic person who believes in the inherent ideal or sacred nature of commitment, where vows, tradition, and enduring through challenges holds the ultimate importance or a practical person who believe solely in emotional connection, effort, and compatibility. There’s no real answer.

I knooow ughh. I wonder if they address it in the manga, because he seriously has nothing going on for him. She has to have some attachment and self worth issues and is blinded by his bad boy persona.

Here’s a question:

Is it fair to expect love and commitment from someone whom you deserted both physically and emotionally years ago?
Is it fair to demand commitment from someone you know you are only with for the sake of your career or out of convenience, and because you benefit from their emotional, social, and financial contributions?

My answer is no, they don’t owe them commitment; not anymore. Are Makoto and Michi cheating? Yes. Do I blame them? No.

In my view, a marriage/relationship is not solely defined by a legal document but by the effort invested in it. Without active contributions from both parties, there is no genuine marriage/relationship. No effort = no relationship = no right to claim you were wronged. Don’t care if there’s a piece of paper or vow, If there’s no contribution and your partner deserts you emotionally, you are no longer in a relationship and no one should expect commitment from you. Emotional neglect is very serious and I consider it a form of abuse. Can't expect people to commit to ghosts.