I was trying to figure out what BL meant. I just started watching and I kind of see it now. I've never watched…
There are so many good BL stories out there but not enough love and attention is given to it the same way the production team and actors of the Untamed gave to MDZS T_T IDK how to feel because China is finally doing BL right despite the censorship...
I honestly can't wait for a future in which China (also the rest of the world) stops all the censoship and accepts…
Agree 100% ... Before the censorship, there was a ton of BL being made in China as low budget web drama/web movies but the quality is not that good but now that producers are adapting actual good BL novels to screen (and improving the quality of the genre), the censorship is in the way T_T
I agree with you but I feel that it's not only the actors but also the production team who adapt/direct BL who…
Honestly, I think there is a big problem with the whole BL drama trend in Thailand...because despite its popularity, people don't see it as anything else but a "fan service" drama. Young actors who get casted in BL drama use it as a stepping stone to amass a fan club before moving on. Directors/producers do the same. New mentioned UWMA will be the first BL with a story (because people assumed BL are porn without plot...) and few other directors have mentioned how they only want to cast straight actors for gay characters so that the straight fangirls (audience of their show) can still ship themselves with the actors.
People just don't take BL as a genre seriously and have this mindset that being in a bl drama is inferior to a hetero drama. So although LGBTQ+ is more prevalent in dramas now, the idea that it is inferior is not changing unless directors/production team treat it seriously and by this I am not asking for it to be realistic or relatable, just that there is more effort and the production is of higher quality...and not just there for the talk of "hot" scenes (or "fin" in Thai) or how real their cp is...etc
So I can’t stress this enough, I’ve restarted this series like 4 times, and for some reason I just cannot…
The only reason I am able to sit through Pete's cringey acting is because I am used to watching bad acting in Thai BL dramas lol... his acting doesn't get any better in my opinion and his monologues are cringey but it's a good watch if you like fluffy, romance drama.
I'm feeling uneasy. Many people have expressed sympathy with Thai BL actors who say they want to abandon the world…
I agree with you but I feel that it's not only the actors but also the production team who adapt/direct BL who treats the genre like "fan service" and just something for quick money. Most of the time, the plot is not that great, characters are not well developed, acting is barely passable and chemistry is inconsistent so they just keep adding "intimate" scenes to cover it all up. Once a CP gets popular, the fans refuse to accept the cp in any other roles with any other co-star and the fandom becomes toxic too :(
I think as actors they shouldn't feel the need to cut themselves off from a genre if they really want to grow as actors. The script should be the decision factor if you want to portray a character or not. Their sexuality should not matter if it's a good story but that's only in my world I guess haha *_* which is why it disappoints me that these actors have to announce it out (that's like cutting off bridges in my opinion)
They're banned to see eachother in public but apparently they are still in very touch with each other privately…
China didn't use to have a LGBT ban but puts a ban to homosexuality on media after this show got too popular... China always had this mentality of don't ask don't tell... they don't want homosexuality promoted. This show got too popular and it also had a lot of "loose morals" (e.g. Gu Hai's possessive/kidnapping behaviors, Gu Hai abusing military powers...etc) so I think that's why they got banned :(
What are y'all's opinion on Jiang Cheng? I see a lot of people cursing him and hating on him, but I just don't…
I'm guessing some people hates him because he has the mentality of a common person which is contrasting to WWX's "heroic" personality.
If we look at it realistically, a hero is just someone who is willing to risk his own life for others which is a stupid decision if you fail (which WWX does at some point) and a heroic act if you succeed so what JC says to WWX about having a hero complex isn't all that wrong...
I actually find JC really relatable...cause let me be real, I'm not a heroic person. I'm more like JC who prob hesitates before making any "heroic" decisions and will probably hold grudges if my entire family is killed even if I knew that holding grudges would not change a thing... it's a part of being human and it's hard to let go :)
hii, I just watched the first season and saw that there will be a second season. but im kinda confused .... i…
Love By Cathy Doll is a collection of short films done to promote the brand Cathy Doll. It is not related to Love by Chance at all except for the use of the same actors :)
Forget about WWX. What would you do if a good friend of yours, who had helped you during your bad times was in…
I totally get what you are saying...most people would think that way because we are normal people...I think that's the point of WWX's character...he acts like a "hero" and quickly respond and decide which isn't always the best outcome but he can't just be a bystander so I get where all your frustrations is coming from.
Jiang Cheng represents the common person...that's why he responds the way he does and thinks WWX has a hero complex. Most people, if it doesn't involve you, would just let things slide by and do what's best for themselves. I guess WWX is too selfless. He values other over himself.
It's not explicitly gay because China doesn't allow that but if you typically don't watch dramas without female…
Wow, this discussion is starting to sound redundant. I just don't think you get my point. The thing is you started this whole argument over a "fact" that I stated and tried to force it into a critical thinking essay which it is not...and now you're trying to think outside the box that 1+1 does not always equal 2 when what I said is not that deep.
I want to hear people's opinions about the story between Xue Yang, XXC and Song Lan. What do you guys think of…
The story has a similar vibe to a really old drama "Dark Tales" (IDK if you have seen it) which usually focuses on certain human emotions/flaws (love, greed, lust...etc). I think this is what makes the Yi City interesting because all the flaws make the characters more complex.
It's not explicitly gay because China doesn't allow that but if you typically don't watch dramas without female…
Ok, let me just be real with you:
- Interpretation is only needed if the question is an open question. The original poster's asked if ML are gay. The answer is yes in novel but not explicit in drama. I merely stated facts. Don't know why you feel the need to disagree in the first place but I still respected your opinion.
- I also CLEARLY stated in my 2nd post that it is my opinion that their relationship as lovers is depicted clearly enough in drama. I did not generalize what anyone should see.
-I don't know why you brought up my comment about female leads? I advise the OP that she might not like the drama if she is not ok with not having a female lead and/or having a primary heterosexual romance line because Untamed doesn't have either. Again, this is just stating facts; not a concept that need to be brood over.
-And your last point: YES, it is the drama itself that should convey the intention of the novel. I never denied this, but I do think drama/production team did a fair job despite censorship to convey the original novel...but it is not their responsibility to hold people's hands if people lacks comprehension skill. They could be obvious and give you 1+1=? and some will still somehow find a different answer that is not 2 and this is not because of interpretation, it's just poor comprehension skills.
People just don't take BL as a genre seriously and have this mindset that being in a bl drama is inferior to a hetero drama. So although LGBTQ+ is more prevalent in dramas now, the idea that it is inferior is not changing unless directors/production team treat it seriously and by this I am not asking for it to be realistic or relatable, just that there is more effort and the production is of higher quality...and not just there for the talk of "hot" scenes (or "fin" in Thai) or how real their cp is...etc
I think as actors they shouldn't feel the need to cut themselves off from a genre if they really want to grow as actors. The script should be the decision factor if you want to portray a character or not. Their sexuality should not matter if it's a good story but that's only in my world I guess haha *_* which is why it disappoints me that these actors have to announce it out (that's like cutting off bridges in my opinion)
If we look at it realistically, a hero is just someone who is willing to risk his own life for others which is a stupid decision if you fail (which WWX does at some point) and a heroic act if you succeed so what JC says to WWX about having a hero complex isn't all that wrong...
I actually find JC really relatable...cause let me be real, I'm not a heroic person. I'm more like JC who prob hesitates before making any "heroic" decisions and will probably hold grudges if my entire family is killed even if I knew that holding grudges would not change a thing... it's a part of being human and it's hard to let go :)
Jiang Cheng represents the common person...that's why he responds the way he does and thinks WWX has a hero complex. Most people, if it doesn't involve you, would just let things slide by and do what's best for themselves. I guess WWX is too selfless. He values other over himself.
- Interpretation is only needed if the question is an open question. The original poster's asked if ML are gay. The answer is yes in novel but not explicit in drama. I merely stated facts. Don't know why you feel the need to disagree in the first place but I still respected your opinion.
- I also CLEARLY stated in my 2nd post that it is my opinion that their relationship as lovers is depicted clearly enough in drama. I did not generalize what anyone should see.
-I don't know why you brought up my comment about female leads? I advise the OP that she might not like the drama if she is not ok with not having a female lead and/or having a primary heterosexual romance line because Untamed doesn't have either. Again, this is just stating facts; not a concept that need to be brood over.
-And your last point: YES, it is the drama itself that should convey the intention of the novel. I never denied this, but I do think drama/production team did a fair job despite censorship to convey the original novel...but it is not their responsibility to hold people's hands if people lacks comprehension skill. They could be obvious and give you 1+1=? and some will still somehow find a different answer that is not 2 and this is not because of interpretation, it's just poor comprehension skills.