how is him saying "love yourself more and be less considerate of others/focus on yourself more (instead of others)…
Good to know we agree o the horribleness of the so called mother then, heh. But wow, that is quite the unnecessary negative interpretation of what is a simple scene between what already felt like gf/bf couple moment. No, he wasn't sulky that she went basket shopping for her mother and thus "didn't pay attention to him" He was still, understandably so, cranky that her mother interrupted their perfect moment and (consensual) kiss the night before, and the baskets there obviously reminded him of it, which he voiced toward her. Nothing wrong with that. So HS diffused his grumpiness with putting the basket on his head as a joke as she knows he can't stay "mad" with her and it worked as it was cleared up.. This is what i meant when i was saying that it felt like a situation and dynamic between a gf & bf. And i can't even call this an argument, because it was no big deal between them to begin with. (Maybe a mild, lingering frustration for a valid reason and it was cleared up quickly between them.)
Also he saw that purse and just thought it was nice, so he asked if he could buy it for her, but he let it be when she said no. Nothing more. You know, like a bf would want to buy small nice things for his gf he sees? Instead he helped her at the checkout and joked around to make her smile. You know, like a bf would? And she did smile at that (instead to be annoyed or anything) before they then left together. Like this was *not at all* a negative situation or interaction between them, so your interpretation of that scene is quite puzzling to me and, i guess, also a very biased view since you seem to strongly dislike his character for some reason. Maybe try less speeding thru their scenes, so you don't end up misinterpreting things? :D
And yes he talked a bit about his family, but unlike creepy cousin did only so after she told him that she is "done talking about her fam" it was the bit where they were walking together on the trail. I commented on this scene here in my Taehshim thread of eps 21:
What i also miss with this weekender is the sense of "community" you usually find in family dramas. Which becomes very apparent to me due to watching Never Twice atm (where the inn residents feel more like a family in 11 eps than both fams and villa residents combined.) Like every character in LYOL is out there on their own, doing their own thing. There is no friendship or positive connection between characters or fam members meeting up just to talk/hang out (the brothers, or cousins on TH's side... like Taehee has talked to her brother once thus far and same for her cousin.... on that "funeral") It's all very toxic/negative only.
We only see chars (outside of the three couples,,, the married couple also only argues btw) /fam members interact when there are conflicts and they argue w each other. Or that forced rivalry between TH & TM when it would be so much better to see them reconnect and bond in a brotherly way. But noooope, Live Your Own Life like TRHC before it, completely lacks the warmth, sense of community and the wholesomeness of older fam dramas with its constant negativity and toxic characters/storylines where everyone is out there for themselves. There's zero love/affection in each and every of the familial relationships. Everyone of the family members here is just using others in their different unhealthy/toxic ways with lies and deceit abound, and people who are being used (HS first and foremost, and alsoTH with being set up by his evil fam with that "charity foundation")
And the worst is, nothing about it has changed in 23 full eps Not a single damn thing, ugh.. In 23 eps HS did not have one single positive interaction with her mother or brothers. It actually got worse even, with, for example, HS completely regressing to a doormat who does not even protest all the abuse anymore outside of a sigh and an obligatory "buuuut moooooom." This shithead stole all her savings and yet she is sticking around at this momster's side. What does it take for HS to leave then? Like, is she moving out before episode 50 or naaaaah????? Because with how the writer has degraded her to a complete doormat and plot puppet by now, i really doubt that.
And people wonder WHY i am out here focusing on Taeho/Hyoshim only lmao. Because this is the only goddamn positive, non toxic thing this show still has left (Mirim scenes' too, maybe)
Watched the preview for ep 24 and in the scene where TH catch HS outside his aunt house and the one where they…
*ooints to avatar* yeah i also hope that this is what the scene in the preview is about, bc it also looks quite intimate between those two there heh. So I guess/hope they finally officially commit to each other. Bc there is only so much unofficial dating you can do and i cannot fault TH for wanting clarity either. Not after nearly kissing and all, heh.
TBh I hate her mother's character here. When she payed the loan, I thought she might change but her annoying behaviour…
Yeah as said before the so called mother is the true villain of the story: A narcissistic, controlling, emotionally manipulative/gaslighting SHITHEAD who only cares about herself and to keep her daughter as cashcow for herself and her useless sons under her thumb.
πRatings continue to inch up β Saturday and Sunday (episodes 22/23) were 2nd highest episodes. (The highest…
how is him saying "love yourself more and be less considerate of others/focus on yourself more (instead of others) and let yourself rest" belittling her concern for her mother???" Especially when this shrew actively tried to emotionally manipulate her in coming home like the shitty narcissist she is? She was throwing a temper tantrum that HS dared to go away for a few days like a damn egocentric child, nothing more. Hyoshim NEEDED to hear all these things as she is only living for others, never for herself. (https://twitter.com/sundogsnrainbow/status/1734971364765729153)
Here is my Taehshim twitter thread with screenshots, commentary and vids for the eps 22 (terribad) and 23 (very mid), respectively. RIP to all who weirdly conflate Taeho with his creepy cousin, but i am different. Can't relate. Like at all. (are we even watching the same show???? π)
I get your point and I kind of agree, because the lack of context of their history makes it hard to understand…
i see it more like a story puzzle with the pieces coming more and more together the further you watch and i enjoy this more than being spoonfed a straight A-Z of their past. Makes the narrative more interesting too, imo
Flashback is best thing of this drama, if you can't connect then don't try hard just dropped, forcing yourself…
Ikr? Fjashbacks are a narrative tool to add context to their relationship, it is there for the viewer to be able to understand the relationship of the characters and connect with them. Just because they are not told in a (n extensive) chronological manner doesn't take away from their present day story,. It is just a matter of being able to follow a story and its context that is not spoonfed to you from A-Z in all its extent, is all, lmao.
Nah. It is okay but nothing beyond that, at least for me. Depends how much you are able to connect with the characters…
I liked Castaway Diva a lot more. Also Thirty but Seventeen (still 17) as an 'older' example. And yeah it is always a matter how you are able to connect with a story and the characters first and foremost. Sadly it never happened to me with TW π
Itβs also on Viki (not sure if you have that option?).
yeah it especially annoys me that almost all the family dramas and dailies are gated off behind licensing walls due to kocowa. I may be able to watch those which are free on viki when i finally get myself a vpn for christmas lol, but yeah, i have to hunt those kind of shows down on the alternative sites normally.
Are you out of your senses? How is TaeHo "holding back", SA? That's what's called "being respectful".......I do…
Yeeeeah it is not at all comparable with the creepy cousin, like it is the complete opposite, actually. He lets her know about his feelings and this after deliberate consideration of hers, as we can see she is holding back due to the whole client/trainer thing, but actually is very attracted to him. In this case someone has to make the first move to get somewhere at all lol, but he giving her still room to bow out when it comes to it. We see this today in the (almost) kiss how he is gauging her reaction and moving in slowly for it where she reciprocated every step of the way, closing her eyes and such.
Totally agree. As much as I wanted to like TH, that "I won't hold myself back next time, just so you know" was…
???????????
he is saying this ONLY after gauging exactly how Hyoshim feels about and her attraction to him. He is emotionally intelligent after all and putting emphasis on her comfort, so TH would never say or do something she is not okay with. So to conflate him with Taemin is sooo not applicable, nor fair in the slightest.
Are you out of your senses? How is TaeHo "holding back", SA? That's what's called "being respectful".......I do…
Exactly, like Taeho would not be saying this if he hasn't gauged the situation with Hyoshim and how she feels about him. He is only saying this because he is well aware of her attraction to him, especially after the moment and romantic tension shared on that bench.
Also he saw that purse and just thought it was nice, so he asked if he could buy it for her, but he let it be when she said no. Nothing more. You know, like a bf would want to buy small nice things for his gf he sees? Instead he helped her at the checkout and joked around to make her smile. You know, like a bf would? And she did smile at that (instead to be annoyed or anything) before they then left together. Like this was *not at all* a negative situation or interaction between them, so your interpretation of that scene is quite puzzling to me and, i guess, also a very biased view since you seem to strongly dislike his character for some reason. Maybe try less speeding thru their scenes, so you don't end up misinterpreting things? :D
Here is the scene again, and the other, for clarity:
https://twitter.com/sundogsnrainbow/status/1734988847748964367
https://twitter.com/sundogsnrainbow/status/1734993639338631561
And yes he talked a bit about his family, but unlike creepy cousin did only so after she told him that she is "done talking about her fam" it was the bit where they were walking together on the trail. I commented on this scene here in my Taehshim thread of eps 21:
https://twitter.com/sundogsnrainbow/status/1731518470662111483
We only see chars (outside of the three couples,,, the married couple also only argues btw) /fam members interact when there are conflicts and they argue w each other. Or that forced rivalry between TH & TM when it would be so much better to see them reconnect and bond in a brotherly way. But noooope, Live Your Own Life like TRHC before it, completely lacks the warmth, sense of community and the wholesomeness of older fam dramas with its constant negativity and toxic characters/storylines where everyone is out there for themselves. There's zero love/affection in each and every of the familial relationships. Everyone of the family members here is just using others in their different unhealthy/toxic ways with lies and deceit abound, and people who are being used (HS first and foremost, and alsoTH with being set up by his evil fam with that "charity foundation")
And the worst is, nothing about it has changed in 23 full eps Not a single damn thing, ugh.. In 23 eps HS did not have one single positive interaction with her mother or brothers. It actually got worse even, with, for example, HS completely regressing to a doormat who does not even protest all the abuse anymore outside of a sigh and an obligatory "buuuut moooooom." This shithead stole all her savings and yet she is sticking around at this momster's side. What does it take for HS to leave then? Like, is she moving out before episode 50 or naaaaah????? Because with how the writer has degraded her to a complete doormat and plot puppet by now, i really doubt that.
And people wonder WHY i am out here focusing on Taeho/Hyoshim only lmao. Because this is the only goddamn positive, non toxic thing this show still has left (Mirim scenes' too, maybe)
So that is... quite the reach, lmao.
https://twitter.com/sundogsnrainbow/status/1734254759027057094
https://twitter.com/sundogsnrainbow/status/1734968881389654517
ML and FL share a consensual almost kiss in the latest episode however.
he is saying this ONLY after gauging exactly how Hyoshim feels about and her attraction to him. He is emotionally intelligent after all and putting emphasis on her comfort, so TH would never say or do something she is not okay with. So to conflate him with Taemin is sooo not applicable, nor fair in the slightest.