In general I agree with what you are saying. But Art didn't out Mew, in his live which happened in Oct 2018. Mew…
Thanks... Mew lives and works in a homophobic sovereign. I don't think he can say outright what he wants to say abt his orientation or give a direct declaration... unless he is ready to burn bridges. Not recommended for a growing actor. I admire him for even saying what he said to his fans on his IG live (that's a direct quote, yes, video is up on YT).
Also, I tend to think that kissing someone of same gender does not necessarily make one a definitive gay. It's more complex than that. In Asian culture like India, men do skinship like sitting on eo laps or hold hands while hugging in public if they are very good friends (same with women) - it is accepted.
TBH Thailand has such a reputation when it comes to sexual encounters in other countries. In India we always hear…
I am sorry about your trauma, Pranav. I hope you are doing better now. Therapy helped me a lot. My point was more about how TharnType is a story of two child s*xual abuse survivors and obviously it is not going to be a bed of roses. We are not going to get cute kisses and dreamy stares that we usually see in other BL shows. Tbh the tharntype tv show is actually VERY tame compared to the gritty novel. In reality most CSA survivors lead a difficult life as memories cannot be erased and they learn harmful lessons about consent and s*x too early, which puts them in harm's way even as adults.
Of course Type is the way he is, brash and abusive - he was kidnapped at 11 and molested for god knows how many hours or days and mistook his abuser as gay. Of course Tharn is the way he is, he was seduced at 14 (and found it so painful he lost consciousness for a whole day and never again bottomed in his life) and learned to be s*xually aggressive thanks to San as being his instigator to s*x. Tharn and Type are damaged, imperfect morons who learn to un-moron themselves through the course of the show... which is the story we are supposed to see.
What I don't get is all the outrage at how toxic they are... they are *supposed* to be that? Is a tv show in today's world not allowed to show that? Are shows only to show the 'good' parts? Of what use is that for any kind of representation. If I want only rosy picture, I'd watch cartoons. I'd rather see shows that showcase real life dilemmas. Most people are toxic. Just look all around you. Even family members can be toxic. Often human beings' entire life is spent trying to learn how to avoid or co-exist with self- and external- toxicness.
I personally am happy at the conversations TharnType has opened up, I am talking about CSA and its effects to people who never even thought abt those topics. Sure, the show doesn't get everything right, but at least there is a tv show that exists now with two CSA survivors as main leads (no other how has this, in any country). Imo there shd be more shows that deal with tough topics, with appropriate rating. It's not a cotton candy world out there.
In general I agree with what you are saying. But Art didn't out Mew, in his live which happened in Oct 2018. Mew…
There is nothing vague about saying "Personally, I do not care about gender when it comes to romantic love?" It is a clear, definitive pansexual statement about his preference. I am a pansexual too and those would be the exact words I'd use IRL if asked a question about my orientation. Btw, I have not seen any other BL actor saying these words? Who said them, can you give me names.
I agree that nobody should be outed on a Live but at that point, it was known in Thai BL industry that M was not straight.
I don’t know what really happened and whatever it was it’s between them. However one thing I will say what…
In general I agree with what you are saying. But Art didn't out Mew, in his live which happened in Oct 2018. Mew said in April 2018 on his IG live that he does not care about gender in romantic love (the vid is all over YT). Saying a statement like this is as good as coming out in Asia, so technically Art did NOT out Mew, since by then it was common knowledge in Thai industry that Mew is bi. Still, that doesn't excuse Art airing out private laundry in public.
TBH Thailand has such a reputation when it comes to sexual encounters in other countries. In India we always hear…
The level of cultural appropriateness and moral sanctimonious displayed in this thread is... disturbing. I am Indian too. I will be the last person to throw mud on another country when my own country stinks to heaven in the topic of sexual assault, r*pe and consent.
May I know how may here have bothered to look at the show as the story of TWO child abuse survivors? Seduced at 14 is abuse too. I am a CSA survivor just like Type and Tharn, and if you guys are all willing to have a real, two way conversation - not just blind judgement and cancel culture and pearl clutching on 'oh think abt the kids' - I am ready.
TBH Thailand has such a reputation when it comes to sexual encounters in other countries. In India we always hear…
I value all opinions and I will never say this show is without its faults - but really, it is not a show's mistake if adoloscents illegally watch the show. It has a clear 18+ rating. People younger than 18 have no business watching it. The arts industry will die on its feet if we all fear for the kids and create only safe, sanitised stuff just in case they will end up seeing it. Kids should be monitored on what they watch, instead of defending those who insist on watching or experiencing stuff that is not meant for them.
I have (mostly!) stopped explaining here on MDL bcos someone warned me it is hater central for TharnType but you…
I am so sorry for this late reply, I just saw this?? Anyway, thank you for that polite, mature reply... you are so much better than those who simply hate on this show bcos they don't care enough to pause and think. I am very grateful, really, bcos the hatred and abusive replies I get here when I defend TharnType is horrible... I have get special therapy just for that.
What you said is abolutely true - show producers should have made much more satisfactory resolution for the Lhong angle. Lhong is mentally ill and his crimesagainst Tharn start from the age of 16... by Thailand's age of consent, he is a major but he was still a childish sociopath. It just kept escalating until it came to masterminding Tar's gang-r**e. Either the show should have given viewers satisfaction by letting Lhong be severely punished or at least displayed proactive stance on therapy, by placing Lhong in a psychiatric ward. Just him crying on sister's shoulder or Thorn later abolving is not enough. There ought to have been a scene where Lhong shd hav begged the forgivness of Tar or Tharn...
Though, if you think abt it... Lhong lost everyone of his friends. He lost his band. He lost the person he loved most and he also had to drop out of school... for a 19 yr old, this is all pretty loud punishments.
Here are some threads I had analysed - over the course of three months, with discussions from psychologists and fellow child abuse survivors:
I agree abt Lhong. His arc needed a firmer resolution. I answered abt it in the post below this to Nanakor, may…
Also happy to see that you agree both Type and Tharn are at fault for their respective actions. I have done an analysis on Tharn, on how flawed he had become due to his statuory r*ape at 14, at my twitter, pls take a look at it if you are interested https://twitter.com/adishakthihere/status/1317465419779899394
I agree abt Lhong. His arc needed a firmer resolution. I answered abt it in the post below this to Nanakor, may…
I too saw this comment recently... MDL notifs are not regular.
I respect your opinion, Jeff. I am also aware that in a court of law, what Type did - pre-planned, consistent hate crimes against a minority - will be more punishable than a sleep kiss. But I certainly agree that Tharn was not right in barging into the shower room like that... and if I may say this, I feel Type's stance in that scene is a little bit more complicated than that.
I'd be happy to discuss more if you can read my article at https://psycho-milk.com/2020/10/29/tharntype-episode-3-the-shower-scene. I am a child abuse survivor like Type, and had also buried my real sexuality for many years bcos of my past trauma, so I identify a lot with his charactar and cues... I have analysed the shower scene from that perspective.
Yep. Bcos not everyone is going to look at things with the same eyes we have. And that's okay cos we *don't* have…
girl sorry i didn't mean to trigger u! I just replied to ur comment bcos i hope others who come across can read my comment. Nothing against you, sis, I respect your opinion and views.
Yep. Bcos not everyone is going to look at things with the same eyes we have. And that's okay cos we *don't* have the same eyes... we are not all cut from the same cloth. We need different perspectives to learn from each other, even if it means listening to stuff that challenges our ideas, even those that we consider as sacred.
I agree abt Lhong. His arc needed a firmer resolution. I answered abt it in the post below this to Nanakor, may…
Sry for my brief reply before, I was still in shock that somebody on MDL actually agreed with me reg ep 4. Usually I get crucified when I say Type was kinda complicit in the shower scene.
I am getting the shower scene analysis published soon and I can only imagine the avalanche of hate mail I'd be getting! But it needs to be said. TharnType is going to be vailable in netflix soon and a new wave of haters are going to descend on soc media, so we need unbiased analysis of shows like TharnType that push the envelope, shakes existing tropes and focus viewers to think.
I agree abt Lhong. His arc needed a firmer resolution. I answered abt it in the post below this to Nanakor, may…
Yes, in the novel, Type spends a lot of time fighting his attraction to Tharn, he finds his focus in studies slipping too and finally decides to see what the hell all the fuss is about - and another main reason which is a spoiler so I won't tell you, but it makes so much sense than "I don't want to owe you so I am going to sleep with you." Sigh. I'd really like to have a word with the scriptwriting team.
Let me know if you need a link to a fanmade translation. It's not the best (to say the least), but it's the only one out there. Again, I don't know why the makers have not made the official translation available on Kindle or something... my wallet is ready.
I completely agree.... therapy as a plot point shoud become canon in shows, it would be incredibly helpful in…
Yes, a lot of things get lost in cultural context. Totally understandable... the first time I visited the West, I could not make head or tails out of all the freedom! It all felt even reckless and hedonistic to me :)
There's also the fact that viewership mentality accounts for a lot of Asian content. For someone, say a western person used to a lot of basic freedom, some Asian tropes makes NO sense... but for someone, say like most women in Asia who are raised in patriarchy and don't have the liberty to even step out of the house after dusk, they'd rather see shows set in THEIR world, instead of one they cannot relate at all. It's not fair, things ought to be better, but they you go - reality. I completely agree that as time passes on, new generations should make things better.
If you think K-dramas are abusive, oh god, don't even watch Indian shows!
I finally watched season 1 yesterday and I need to get the things that are bothering me off my chest. I liked…
I have (mostly!) stopped explaining here on MDL bcos someone warned me it is hater central for TharnType but you sound like a reasonable person so I thought I will lay out my perspective, as someone who has read the novels and also did a course thesis on the show.
San is 16 when he sleeps with Tharn. Not a pedo, just a horny clueless moron teen who should have known better than ask his friend's brother to sleep with him. He did ask for consent, though what is consent from a 14 year old, really? This is an icky subject for sure, and as some one who was seduced myself when I was too young, it made me uncomfortable but I am not going to blindly hate on a 16 year old kid. San did redeem himself later in the ways he could.
Type suffers from PTSD for ten years, something no one seems to catch on; violent responses under extreme stress is frequent in Child S*xual Abuse (CSA) survivors who do not get proper, consistent therapy to address their past trauma - I don't mean to give this to excuse Type's abusive behaviour, but just a fact that I tell you as a CSA survivor myself, with a past similar to Type/Tharn. (And even in a normal relationship, if you see your lover kissing someone, you take out your anger on the person who is supposed to be loyal to you, not on the other person!)
Tar doesn't reveal what bothers him because he is consumed by guilt. No one can help you if you do not ask for help - this is just a sad fact in real life too. Tar's family do notice his changed behaviour and takes him to several psychiatrists but he does not tell them either, so therapy doesn't work for him. This detail is briefly shown in the show, and in detail in the novel. Sometimes in fiction some charactars need to suffer before they find their happy ending. Just like how it is in reality. Tar had to find the courage to overcome his self-inflicted shame abt his trauma and talk about it to get the help he needed - and he does finds it, thanks to his desire to save the person he loved (Tharn) from Lhong.
Tum n Tar - I don't agree that it's incest, as they are not related by blood, only by marriage. Stepbrother romance is actually an accepted genre whether you believe it or not (you can check publishers' rosters a lot of countries). In any case, no actual incest was ever been committed bcos Tum does not act on his thoughts, he makes no in appropriate move towards Tar at any point in the story, instead he offers him his support all the time. I personally think he acts with honour, trying to curtail his attraction to Tar. Thought 'crimes' are still, blessedly, still fiction and not punishable in reality! I have fantasized many times about killing one of my former employers, and I hope the thought police are not out to get me :)
Ah, Lhong. Once again I'm amazed at how everyone wants him to neatly end up to jail, always forgetting how real world laws work. Tar has to publicly file a complaint in police station to bring a case against Lhong. He is the only one who can do it as the person directly and most affected by Lhong and yet he is so mentally fragile it takes him 3 years to tell Tum of his trauma (according to the Love by Chance universe). He will not survive a trial where his case is discussed by strangers and the videotape will be viewed as evidence, over and over again. Often CSA survivors just want to move on, without causing distress to their mental health by making their trauma public. It's sad, but it's reality.
I wish too that Lhong rotted in hell, but I personally see him as someone who belongs in a psychiatric ward than prison ward, since anybody who has seen episode 11 & 12 can realise he is severely mentally ill. I think as a civilisation we have to move on from blithely throwing mentally ill people into jail and get them the real help they need.
As for Tharn, well, my perspective is, just like how Type's past trauma made him an abusive homophobe, Tharn's early seduction at 14 by San made him sexually aggressive. They both became adults with a bad education on what sex and boundaries is about. Both Tharn and Type are flawed charactars. They commit mistakes, screw up, realise their errors and learn to be better by the end of the show. That's how most stories are I guess - dare I say, most human lives? They get to a better place from a bad point at the beginning. At least this is how my own life story is :)
May I ask you how old you are? A lot of blind haters of this show that I come across on soc media seem to be very young people, which has a clear 18+ rating. IMHO is one is not mature enough to analyse a complex show like TharnType, one should not be watching adult-rated shows at all. I also don't want to be discussing too complex details with you if you are underage.
Finally, thank you for acknowledging that the attempt of Mame (the author) to address real world issues in her novels, instead of wanting to throw her into a cauldron of lava or something (which is a sentiment I often see online!). She is a woman in an conservative asian country who dared to write yaoi with flawed charactars, this one especially which features two CSA survivors as her main leads. I think that's something worth pondering about.
If you are interested to read more analytical threads on the show, I can share some links with you. Or you can browse this page in detail by scrolling down and checking my posts, where I discuss a lot with some moots about this show.
I agree abt Lhong. His arc needed a firmer resolution. I answered abt it in the post below this to Nanakor, may…
Thank you. It's a great sadness for me personally that so many viewers miss the fact that Tharn is also an abuse survivor. Kidnapping is not the only definition of child abuse. Subtle coercion and seduction is, too. As for the timeline, this is what I remember from the novel:
From the time TharnType met as room mates till the day Techno outs Tharn to Type in the locker room - 3 months (Tharn and Type are good friends until then, something which the show too-briefly tried to convey in the 'Before 3 weeks' scene in ep 1)
Time period between Tharn telling Type he wants to sleep with him but not now and Type's offer to sleep with him - 3 weeks (it's not overnight, sigh, like how it is shown in the show)
From the day TharnType meet as room mates till the day Lhong meets Type in the cafe to rat about Tharn's past - 9 months
I really don't understand why the show failed to convey all this canon timelines!
The novel does make everything clear, since we can hear what each charactar thinks. I learnt a lot abt the show by reading the novel (which is NSFW). At the same time I have to caution that the novel is more raw than the show, and all pivotal charactars are worse than how they are portrayed in the show. If you are easily triggered and/or do not get that cultural context allows for some tropes to exist in fiction, do not read the novel.
As for the shower scene, my perspective as a CSA survivor myself is it is not non-consensual (I even wrote a 4500 word analysis about it for my film making course report!). I agree that Tharn was not right in barging into the room like that, but I do not subscribe to the view that Type was taken advantage of - I discuss abt this in detail somewhere down this page, with member Anjali, you can check it out if you are interested.
dude finally finished this and i am not as half mad at type as the people that told me about this series lmao…
i like ur comment! for a change it's about hate on type - usually people love to describe tharn as a r*pist n totally forgive/forget Type for his hate crimes, n for being a poster child for domestic abuse (he hits Tharn every time he loses his temper, n god knows how long Techno has been hurt by his bestie)
These dramas are just romantic works. it has no relationship with LGBT struggle. I was uncomfortable with the…
I don't know if I ever said this during our discussion some time ago, but ofc I agree that viewers shd always call out shows that cross certain lines. Thanks to our discussion, I was inspired to make a thread about why BL shows should not be pressurised to be perfect (or hated when they are not). https://twitter.com/chiffoncakehere/status/1309495377700167680
Also, I tend to think that kissing someone of same gender does not necessarily make one a definitive gay. It's more complex than that. In Asian culture like India, men do skinship like sitting on eo laps or hold hands while hugging in public if they are very good friends (same with women) - it is accepted.
Of course Type is the way he is, brash and abusive - he was kidnapped at 11 and molested for god knows how many hours or days and mistook his abuser as gay. Of course Tharn is the way he is, he was seduced at 14 (and found it so painful he lost consciousness for a whole day and never again bottomed in his life) and learned to be s*xually aggressive thanks to San as being his instigator to s*x. Tharn and Type are damaged, imperfect morons who learn to un-moron themselves through the course of the show... which is the story we are supposed to see.
What I don't get is all the outrage at how toxic they are... they are *supposed* to be that? Is a tv show in today's world not allowed to show that? Are shows only to show the 'good' parts? Of what use is that for any kind of representation. If I want only rosy picture, I'd watch cartoons. I'd rather see shows that showcase real life dilemmas. Most people are toxic. Just look all around you. Even family members can be toxic. Often human beings' entire life is spent trying to learn how to avoid or co-exist with self- and external- toxicness.
I personally am happy at the conversations TharnType has opened up, I am talking about CSA and its effects to people who never even thought abt those topics. Sure, the show doesn't get everything right, but at least there is a tv show that exists now with two CSA survivors as main leads (no other how has this, in any country). Imo there shd be more shows that deal with tough topics, with appropriate rating. It's not a cotton candy world out there.
I agree that nobody should be outed on a Live but at that point, it was known in Thai BL industry that M was not straight.
May I know how may here have bothered to look at the show as the story of TWO child abuse survivors? Seduced at 14 is abuse too. I am a CSA survivor just like Type and Tharn, and if you guys are all willing to have a real, two way conversation - not just blind judgement and cancel culture and pearl clutching on 'oh think abt the kids' - I am ready.
The Erasure of Type Thiwat's Desire and Agency as an Adult survivor of CSA
https://psycho-milk.com/2020/10/29/tharntype-episode-3-the-shower-scene/
The Erasure of Type Thiwat's Desire and Agency as an Adult survivor of CSA
https://psycho-milk.com/2020/10/29/tharntype-episode-3-the-shower-scene/
What you said is abolutely true - show producers should have made much more satisfactory resolution for the Lhong angle. Lhong is mentally ill and his crimesagainst Tharn start from the age of 16... by Thailand's age of consent, he is a major but he was still a childish sociopath. It just kept escalating until it came to masterminding Tar's gang-r**e. Either the show should have given viewers satisfaction by letting Lhong be severely punished or at least displayed proactive stance on therapy, by placing Lhong in a psychiatric ward. Just him crying on sister's shoulder or Thorn later abolving is not enough. There ought to have been a scene where Lhong shd hav begged the forgivness of Tar or Tharn...
Though, if you think abt it... Lhong lost everyone of his friends. He lost his band. He lost the person he loved most and he also had to drop out of school... for a 19 yr old, this is all pretty loud punishments.
Here are some threads I had analysed - over the course of three months, with discussions from psychologists and fellow child abuse survivors:
The Erasure of Type Thiwat's Desire and Agency as an Adult
https://psycho-milk.com/2020/10/29/tharntype-episode-3-the-shower-scene/
THARN THARA KIRIGUN: Music major. Sashimi hater. CSA survivor. (yep, you read that right).
https://twitter.com/adishakthihere/status/1317465419779899394
There are no predatory gay charactars in TharnType, except for Lhong... who might not even be gay: Complete analysis thread.
https://twitter.com/adishakthihere/status/1310925070060134401
In my continued effort to remove the 'demon crown' that some have placed on Tharn's head, here's a hypothesis: Did Tharn and Tar ever consummate their love
https://twitter.com/adishakthihere/status/1315954325143859201
How can Tharn not trust Type after knowing him for 7 yrs?
(or)
Give the man a bloody break: he's practically a PTSD veteran!
An opinion thread that's also half-crack
https://twitter.com/adishakthihere/status/1321009883982880768
Why BL shows should not be pressurised to be perfect (or hated when they are not): A personal perspective.
https://twitter.com/adishakthihere/status/1309495377700167680
Analysis Threads by other people on TharnType
How TharnType changed the genre of BL
https://twitter.com/raikantopinisms/status/1279808910866575360
18+ scenes won't kill us!
https://twitter.com/raikantopinisms/status/1288882179708088321
Let's talk about the sleep kiss.
https://twitter.com/ramblingsofafan/status/1310575541037170688
I respect your opinion, Jeff. I am also aware that in a court of law, what Type did - pre-planned, consistent hate crimes against a minority - will be more punishable than a sleep kiss. But I certainly agree that Tharn was not right in barging into the shower room like that... and if I may say this, I feel Type's stance in that scene is a little bit more complicated than that.
I'd be happy to discuss more if you can read my article at https://psycho-milk.com/2020/10/29/tharntype-episode-3-the-shower-scene. I am a child abuse survivor like Type, and had also buried my real sexuality for many years bcos of my past trauma, so I identify a lot with his charactar and cues... I have analysed the shower scene from that perspective.
I am getting the shower scene analysis published soon and I can only imagine the avalanche of hate mail I'd be getting! But it needs to be said. TharnType is going to be vailable in netflix soon and a new wave of haters are going to descend on soc media, so we need unbiased analysis of shows like TharnType that push the envelope, shakes existing tropes and focus viewers to think.
Let me know if you need a link to a fanmade translation. It's not the best (to say the least), but it's the only one out there. Again, I don't know why the makers have not made the official translation available on Kindle or something... my wallet is ready.
There's also the fact that viewership mentality accounts for a lot of Asian content. For someone, say a western person used to a lot of basic freedom, some Asian tropes makes NO sense... but for someone, say like most women in Asia who are raised in patriarchy and don't have the liberty to even step out of the house after dusk, they'd rather see shows set in THEIR world, instead of one they cannot relate at all. It's not fair, things ought to be better, but they you go - reality. I completely agree that as time passes on, new generations should make things better.
If you think K-dramas are abusive, oh god, don't even watch Indian shows!
San is 16 when he sleeps with Tharn. Not a pedo, just a horny clueless moron teen who should have known better than ask his friend's brother to sleep with him. He did ask for consent, though what is consent from a 14 year old, really? This is an icky subject for sure, and as some one who was seduced myself when I was too young, it made me uncomfortable but I am not going to blindly hate on a 16 year old kid. San did redeem himself later in the ways he could.
Type suffers from PTSD for ten years, something no one seems to catch on; violent responses under extreme stress is frequent in Child S*xual Abuse (CSA) survivors who do not get proper, consistent therapy to address their past trauma - I don't mean to give this to excuse Type's abusive behaviour, but just a fact that I tell you as a CSA survivor myself, with a past similar to Type/Tharn. (And even in a normal relationship, if you see your lover kissing someone, you take out your anger on the person who is supposed to be loyal to you, not on the other person!)
Tar doesn't reveal what bothers him because he is consumed by guilt. No one can help you if you do not ask for help - this is just a sad fact in real life too. Tar's family do notice his changed behaviour and takes him to several psychiatrists but he does not tell them either, so therapy doesn't work for him. This detail is briefly shown in the show, and in detail in the novel. Sometimes in fiction some charactars need to suffer before they find their happy ending. Just like how it is in reality. Tar had to find the courage to overcome his self-inflicted shame abt his trauma and talk about it to get the help he needed - and he does finds it, thanks to his desire to save the person he loved (Tharn) from Lhong.
Tum n Tar - I don't agree that it's incest, as they are not related by blood, only by marriage. Stepbrother romance is actually an accepted genre whether you believe it or not (you can check publishers' rosters a lot of countries). In any case, no actual incest was ever been committed bcos Tum does not act on his thoughts, he makes no in appropriate move towards Tar at any point in the story, instead he offers him his support all the time. I personally think he acts with honour, trying to curtail his attraction to Tar. Thought 'crimes' are still, blessedly, still fiction and not punishable in reality! I have fantasized many times about killing one of my former employers, and I hope the thought police are not out to get me :)
Ah, Lhong. Once again I'm amazed at how everyone wants him to neatly end up to jail, always forgetting how real world laws work. Tar has to publicly file a complaint in police station to bring a case against Lhong. He is the only one who can do it as the person directly and most affected by Lhong and yet he is so mentally fragile it takes him 3 years to tell Tum of his trauma (according to the Love by Chance universe). He will not survive a trial where his case is discussed by strangers and the videotape will be viewed as evidence, over and over again. Often CSA survivors just want to move on, without causing distress to their mental health by making their trauma public. It's sad, but it's reality.
I wish too that Lhong rotted in hell, but I personally see him as someone who belongs in a psychiatric ward than prison ward, since anybody who has seen episode 11 & 12 can realise he is severely mentally ill. I think as a civilisation we have to move on from blithely throwing mentally ill people into jail and get them the real help they need.
As for Tharn, well, my perspective is, just like how Type's past trauma made him an abusive homophobe, Tharn's early seduction at 14 by San made him sexually aggressive. They both became adults with a bad education on what sex and boundaries is about. Both Tharn and Type are flawed charactars. They commit mistakes, screw up, realise their errors and learn to be better by the end of the show. That's how most stories are I guess - dare I say, most human lives? They get to a better place from a bad point at the beginning. At least this is how my own life story is :)
May I ask you how old you are? A lot of blind haters of this show that I come across on soc media seem to be very young people, which has a clear 18+ rating. IMHO is one is not mature enough to analyse a complex show like TharnType, one should not be watching adult-rated shows at all. I also don't want to be discussing too complex details with you if you are underage.
Finally, thank you for acknowledging that the attempt of Mame (the author) to address real world issues in her novels, instead of wanting to throw her into a cauldron of lava or something (which is a sentiment I often see online!). She is a woman in an conservative asian country who dared to write yaoi with flawed charactars, this one especially which features two CSA survivors as her main leads. I think that's something worth pondering about.
If you are interested to read more analytical threads on the show, I can share some links with you. Or you can browse this page in detail by scrolling down and checking my posts, where I discuss a lot with some moots about this show.
From the time TharnType met as room mates till the day Techno outs Tharn to Type in the locker room - 3 months (Tharn and Type are good friends until then, something which the show too-briefly tried to convey in the 'Before 3 weeks' scene in ep 1)
Time period between Tharn telling Type he wants to sleep with him but not now and Type's offer to sleep with him - 3 weeks (it's not overnight, sigh, like how it is shown in the show)
From the day TharnType meet as room mates till the day Lhong meets Type in the cafe to rat about Tharn's past - 9 months
I really don't understand why the show failed to convey all this canon timelines!
The novel does make everything clear, since we can hear what each charactar thinks. I learnt a lot abt the show by reading the novel (which is NSFW). At the same time I have to caution that the novel is more raw than the show, and all pivotal charactars are worse than how they are portrayed in the show. If you are easily triggered and/or do not get that cultural context allows for some tropes to exist in fiction, do not read the novel.
As for the shower scene, my perspective as a CSA survivor myself is it is not non-consensual (I even wrote a 4500 word analysis about it for my film making course report!). I agree that Tharn was not right in barging into the room like that, but I do not subscribe to the view that Type was taken advantage of - I discuss abt this in detail somewhere down this page, with member Anjali, you can check it out if you are interested.