Please explain how this is "crazy sad."He has been accused by some anonymous broad.He pleaded not guilty. Nothing…
And what if pigs could fly, Stan?
Any reply to any comment of any kind, whether the response is favorable, negative, or in between, requires a "judgment" of the contents and the person who wrote them. We judge things all day, every day we're alive.
What you MEANT to say was "stop judging people and their comments negatively because I don't like your judgments or your way of expressing them." Here's a thought: How you feel about those things is of no interest to me.
"...respect opinions" lol Some opinions Stan, such as "the Earth is flat" or "this artist is a disgusting person because I say so" are unworthy of my respect, so you know, I don't respect them.
You go ahead and do that, though, Stan. You go ahead and express respect for things you don't respect. You do you, as the kids say.
It is revealing that you don't seem to respect MY opinions.
I've seen this show at least 52 times before. Plot: Miscommunication beyond plausibility (how original!), rinse, and repeat endlessly
Writing: Bad. First, we are shown the story from one perspective, then another, and we're supposed to marvel at the vast differences in how two humans can perceive the same event in dramatically different ways. This is true. However, the biggest problem is that the first time around, Jin Hwan was clearly behaving in a jerkish, arrogant, smartass way (much as many of my comments are written). But the second time around, in the version told from his perspective, his AFFECT and manner are entirely different. He goes from being a jerk to being an all-round, super nice fellow. BS and bad writing. To pull this off requires skills the writing teams does not possess.
Acting: Wooden af. It's hilarious how they stand stiffly, arms flat against their bodies, and deliver lines AT each other rather than to each other in a believably human manner.
Direction: lol, are you kidding?
This show is really bad but I keep watching because I can at least stand it and I'm intensively BL-deprived at the moment. I went three or four weeks with ZERO watchable BLs to enjoy, then this thing came along and I'm clinging to it like a snail to a rotting corpse. It tastes like shit but at leads it feeds my BL craving and allows me to continue living.
Sometimes these days, I wonder whether, if I stumbled across BL World now instead of five and a half years ago, I would be as instantly obsessed as I was then. Or if I would even bother.
I first discovered the classics that had aired in their entirety. I binged SOTUS and its abominably bad sequel, which I thrilled to simply because I had never seen a romance between two young college guys portrayed; ever. The mannequin and dead fish kisses were bizarre af and I wondered what the hell was going on, but it was SOMETHING.
Then...I came across "Lovesick and its sequel," "Make It Right" and its follow-up, "Love By Chance," but NOT its horrible sequel, "Together With Me" and sequel, "TharnType" and NOT its sequel, and many other remarkable shows, some better some worse, from the cannon of early BLs. It was binge Heaven. I thrilled and wept and went "wtf?" a lot, but in a good way.
Then...Korea, Japan, and Taiwan got in on the act and my hopes soared...but the last year not so much. Korea is now turning out dreck like this on the regular and Taiwan squirts out one here and there with mixed results. Japan seems to have given up altogether. And of course the TOOTS (Turds Out Of Thailand) Machine keeps pooping and I keep flushing, but long ago it got to the point where I stopped checking to see what had landed in the toilet.
You know I respect you, that's why I haven't responded to any of your comments here yet. The mods are moderating…
Obviously, you responded to my reply to you above before I edited it heavily. I toned it way back when I saw that the mods were cleaning this place out. Not because I feel anything I said is wrong or untoward, but as a constructive step in appreciation of what the mods are doing/have done.
Thus, a lot of the attitude and in at least on instance a specific sentence to which you responded no longer appear in the comment to which you replied here.
That said, I was disappointed to read this from you:
"I also don't really care that you believe everything a man with money, power and connection throws at you without batting an eye, without knowing the real facts and that when he has changed his statement on relationship status several times. Do. I couldn't care less. Everyone is free to form their own opinion. In any case, you don't know the truth any more than anyone else."
Nowhere in any of my comments did I state that I "believe" KK. What I believe or don't believe about this is irrelevant; as are the "beliefs" of the Knetz. The whole point is their belligerent unwillingness to give an accused person the benefit of the doubt when there is no reason to "believe" the accuser anymore than the accused.
The whole point is the glee with which they rip into the celebrity, tearing them apart bit by bit, repeating unfounded assertions, making connections to other rumors, and generally pouring gasoline on embers to turn it into a conflagration. And all this before the guy even pleaded one way or the other.
The whole point is people like YOU asserting things like "...and that he has changed his statement on his relationship status several times, blah blah blah..." What does his relationship status or anything he said about it have to do with an accusation of "inappropriate touching?"
What is YOUR relationship status? Have you ever made apparently conflicting statements one way or the other? If so, who do you think you are to ask such questions of KK? Try to grasp this point: The answers to the questions I just asked you are no more my business than are the answers to questions about KK's relationship status any business of yours. And yet, here you are pretending to know irrelevant things as fact and introducing them into the equation as more of that gasoline I mentioned.
You came at me all Miss "I respect you...," advising me to tone down my rhetoric against the Knetz, even as you reveal yourself to be a credulous...KNET.
Now MDL as answered my email the step it's to ask to close this comment section or delete all the comments. Am…
Serious question, please: If the thread is that upsetting to you, why not just not read it? I would LOVE to see all threads that descend into the acid bath of celebrity character and career destruction that always accompany these ritualistic J and K "controversies" shut down, quickly. But if not the one that helped kill off Lee Sun Kyun 15 months ago, why this one?
Although, it's true that if MDL began doing just as I wrote above, it would be a sign of great progress. However, it would follow that the mods would need to close down, if only temporarily, the threads beneath each of the shows featuring the celebrity currently selected for destruction. The Knetz gather there also, not just in threads under profiles.
You know I respect you, that's why I haven't responded to any of your comments here yet. The mods are moderating…
Among the least of my concerns is "setting a good example" in comment threads full of the most hateful, judgmental, fact-free, toxic, and vile posters I have seen online.
They toss off lies, rumors, assumptions, and character assassination in nauseatingly casual fashion, as if taking a mere accusation from an anonymous source as gospel and repeating it while adding new spin on what these juicy gems must say about the celebrity they are crucifying is nothing; nothing at all to them. Because, casually destroying people on the flimsiest of evidence IS nothing to them.
Are you suggesting that if I wrote with genteel kindness here, delicately pointing out to these people that they may be pushing another young person toward a tragic end with their loose words, they would realize the error of their ways and stop? Is that what you're saying?
Naturally, when someone like me pushes back in like fashion and doles back at them some of what they dole out, they try to flip the script and play victim. That tactic does not work on me. I am not here to set an example of how to behave for Knetz who know full well that how they are behaving is disgusting.
I have seen it happen in real time and read about dozens of other times when what is going on in this thread led to...yep, the suicide of a celebrity. Are you telling me that to shine a light on that happening yet again is rude and offensive?
I have an idea: Why don't MDL mods shut down all threads that turn into acid baths of bile and hatred over yet another celebrity's alleged failings? Why is it only when commenters like me push back against the Knetz that threads start getting cleansed and closed?
Note: Your accusation that I "want to put every critic" into the category of Knetz is specious. I select those I respond to with a purpose. They repeat unproven allegations as assumed facts or they write presuming the artist to be guilty and speak of him in a past-tense, post-career sort of way that feeds the beast as effectively as repeating the lies.
It is beyond parody that this is what goes on on MDL:
Numberless, anonymous Knetz post countless comments insulting, degrading, falsely accusing, lying about, and being obscenely aggressive toward celebrity entertainers.
Anti-Knetz posts comments insulting, degrading, accurately accusing, telling the truth about, and being justifiably aggressive toward Knetz commenters.
Poor, delicate Knetz go whining to MDL mods that someone has insulted, degraded, accused, told the truth about, and been aggressive toward them for all of the above.
MDL deletes the anti-Knetz comment for insulting, degrading, accusing, and being aggressive toward the Knetz but leaves Knetz comments up that are are of the exact same type toward the celebrity.
It is beyond parody that this is what goes on on MDL:
Numberless, anonymous Knetz post countless comments insulting, degrading, falsely accusing, lying about, and being obscenely aggressive toward celebrity entertainers.
Anti-Knetz posts comments insulting, degrading, accurately accusing, telling the truth about, and being justifiably aggressive toward Knetz commenters.
Poor, delicate Knetz go whining to MDL mods that someone has insulted, degraded, accused, told the truth about, and been aggressive toward them for all of the above.
MDL deletes the anti-Knetz comment for insulting, degrading, accusing, and being aggressive toward the Knetz but leaves ALL Knetz comments up that are are of the exact same type toward the anti-Knetz and the celebrity.
Him showing there after he was asked not to, due to circumstances, tells us 2 simple things, first how narcissistic,…
Loony Luka: "No, its you shameless defenders of evil, nasty people who bring darkness into this world. You defenders are enablers of those people who drove those you mention into death..."
Also Loony Luka: "You are so ruuuuuuuuude to me. waaaaaaaaaa...STOP being ruuuuuuuude to me, you meanie, seriously mentally not well, baddie person!!!"
Take all your faux outrage over being called out for what you are and what you are doing, aim it at a mirror and direct it back at yourself. Projection is a real thing. It's hilarious that you're pretending to be offended at being accused of helping to potentially drive another celeb to suicide based on unproven "allegations" when that is exactly what you are doing. But then, that's right out of the KKK playbook: Do disgusting things and then rant about how "disgusting" it is to be nailed for doing disgusting things. You're a delusional nutjob, like all KKKs.
I know exactly what you Knetz Killer Klowns are all about, as I stated above.
Go stick your head back in the bucket of slime you're aiming at this fine young actor. Soak it there for while. Breathe some of it in. Breathing slime should be no problem for you.
Is that too strong; too much for your delicate sensibilities? Oh dear... What's too strong, too much is Knetz like you doing your best to destroy yet another entertainer before you know so much as a speck about what happened, if anything happened at all. You don't care about such niceties. It's oh so much more fun to run to the suicide playbook and initiate your strategy for how to kill off this talented young actor/singer.
Believe he's innocent, as he is assumed to be by a court until proven otherwise.Meanwhile, grow up.
Guess what? My comments are MEANT to be harsh, as they are directed toward just the kind of thinking which leads to suicide after suicide after suicide in Asia, especially Korea.
Of course, people are too quick to believe whatever they hear without evidence. That is common everywhere. What is not common are the obsessed fandoms and the regular celeb suicides that take place in Korea/Asia. If you aren't aware of that, don't bother me by responding because you have no idea what you're talking about.
"okay, im so shocked rn. i just finished watching Miseinen and i saw some comments abt him. BROOO WHAT IS HAPPENING ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ i was soooo earlier but then booommm! im now sad and idk wht to believe." Does this sound like something written by someone who is wisely skeptical about such accusations as they are routinely hyper-sensationalized by trash media? What it sounds like is someone who is "too quick to believe things even without evidence"; someone who loves to write in all-caps to spice up the hysteria.
"I am SO shocked." Why are you shocked? We hear trash accusations like this all the time from Asian trash media.
I have been a huge fan of Asian films, BLs, and Korean music less than six years and I am already sick to death of the fucking suicides in that time, one after the other, and the dozens more over the 20 years before that.
The problem is that people who are part of the problem don't think they're part of the problem. You need to un-calm yourself and ask what is going on around you.
Knetz are so twisted. How does one "get involved in a scandal" just by being accused of something which may be entirely made up and overblown? Is that how he "got" himself involved?
"...could have been a big star." Hmmm...sounds like writing him off to me.
The point here is that of a deep sickness among the Asian fandoms that has resulted in dozens of celebrity suicides.
Believe he's innocent, as he is assumed to be by a court until proven otherwise.Meanwhile, grow up.
lol I'm not stressing myself out, thanks.
If you're "not believing anything right now," why are you saying shit such as in your comment above, which presumes there is something to be upset about?
Part of what keeps me from feeling stressed is unloading on Knetz Killer Klowns like the ones below when they pile on a celebrity.
I'm sick of seeing mainly Korean artists kill themselves after shit like this. wtf is wrong with Asian fans?
Sure enough, this thread is filling up with know-nothing Knetz Killer Klowns, drooling for another celebrity kill. Nothing has been proven about this anonymous broad's accusations. KK pleaded NOT GUILTY and deserves to be believed until proven otherwise. Yet, the vampires below are hungry to destroy another young man's career and hopefully drive him to suicide.
Him showing there after he was asked not to, due to circumstances, tells us 2 simple things, first how narcissistic,…
Another sign of your vicious lunacy and that of everyone like you in this thread is your unending projection toward those who dare to declare what is real and what is not.
I'm not arguing with or repeating myself to you. You are unworthy of engagement; far beyond reason and full of depravity. "Evil," you say. ha. "Evil" is a word thrown at the innocent by witch-hunters, the Catholic Inquisition, the NK government, the Trump administration, Knetz, and thousands of other vile cretins throughout history. Having zero facts on your side, you seek to distract from the evil in YOU.
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Any reply to any comment of any kind, whether the response is favorable, negative, or in between, requires a "judgment" of the contents and the person who wrote them. We judge things all day, every day we're alive.
What you MEANT to say was "stop judging people and their comments negatively because I don't like your judgments or your way of expressing them." Here's a thought: How you feel about those things is of no interest to me.
"...respect opinions" lol Some opinions Stan, such as "the Earth is flat" or "this artist is a disgusting person because I say so" are unworthy of my respect, so you know, I don't respect them.
You go ahead and do that, though, Stan. You go ahead and express respect for things you don't respect. You do you, as the kids say.
It is revealing that you don't seem to respect MY opinions.
I have zero interest in your opinions of me.
Plot: Miscommunication beyond plausibility (how original!), rinse, and repeat endlessly
Writing: Bad. First, we are shown the story from one perspective, then another, and we're supposed to marvel at the vast differences in how two humans can perceive the same event in dramatically different ways. This is true. However, the biggest problem is that the first time around, Jin Hwan was clearly behaving in a jerkish, arrogant, smartass way (much as many of my comments are written). But the second time around, in the version told from his perspective, his AFFECT and manner are entirely different. He goes from being a jerk to being an all-round, super nice fellow. BS and bad writing. To pull this off requires skills the writing teams does not possess.
Acting: Wooden af. It's hilarious how they stand stiffly, arms flat against their bodies, and deliver lines AT each other rather than to each other in a believably human manner.
Direction: lol, are you kidding?
This show is really bad but I keep watching because I can at least stand it and I'm intensively BL-deprived at the moment. I went three or four weeks with ZERO watchable BLs to enjoy, then this thing came along and I'm clinging to it like a snail to a rotting corpse. It tastes like shit but at leads it feeds my BL craving and allows me to continue living.
Sometimes these days, I wonder whether, if I stumbled across BL World now instead of five and a half years ago, I would be as instantly obsessed as I was then. Or if I would even bother.
I first discovered the classics that had aired in their entirety. I binged SOTUS and its abominably bad sequel, which I thrilled to simply because I had never seen a romance between two young college guys portrayed; ever. The mannequin and dead fish kisses were bizarre af and I wondered what the hell was going on, but it was SOMETHING.
Then...I came across "Lovesick and its sequel," "Make It Right" and its follow-up, "Love By Chance," but NOT its horrible sequel, "Together With Me" and sequel, "TharnType" and NOT its sequel, and many other remarkable shows, some better some worse, from the cannon of early BLs. It was binge Heaven. I thrilled and wept and went "wtf?" a lot, but in a good way.
Then...Korea, Japan, and Taiwan got in on the act and my hopes soared...but the last year not so much. Korea is now turning out dreck like this on the regular and Taiwan squirts out one here and there with mixed results. Japan seems to have given up altogether. And of course the TOOTS (Turds Out Of Thailand) Machine keeps pooping and I keep flushing, but long ago it got to the point where I stopped checking to see what had landed in the toilet.
Is this the end of BL...?
Hey, here's a thought: How about you quit leaving inane replies to my comments?
Thus, a lot of the attitude and in at least on instance a specific sentence to which you responded no longer appear in the comment to which you replied here.
That said, I was disappointed to read this from you:
"I also don't really care that you believe everything a man with money, power and connection throws at you without batting an eye, without knowing the real facts and that when he has changed his statement on relationship status several times. Do. I couldn't care less. Everyone is free to form their own opinion. In any case, you don't know the truth any more than anyone else."
Nowhere in any of my comments did I state that I "believe" KK. What I believe or don't believe about this is irrelevant; as are the "beliefs" of the Knetz. The whole point is their belligerent unwillingness to give an accused person the benefit of the doubt when there is no reason to "believe" the accuser anymore than the accused.
The whole point is the glee with which they rip into the celebrity, tearing them apart bit by bit, repeating unfounded assertions, making connections to other rumors, and generally pouring gasoline on embers to turn it into a conflagration. And all this before the guy even pleaded one way or the other.
The whole point is people like YOU asserting things like "...and that he has changed his statement on his relationship status several times, blah blah blah..." What does his relationship status or anything he said about it have to do with an accusation of "inappropriate touching?"
What is YOUR relationship status? Have you ever made apparently conflicting statements one way or the other? If so, who do you think you are to ask such questions of KK? Try to grasp this point: The answers to the questions I just asked you are no more my business than are the answers to questions about KK's relationship status any business of yours. And yet, here you are pretending to know irrelevant things as fact and introducing them into the equation as more of that gasoline I mentioned.
You came at me all Miss "I respect you...," advising me to tone down my rhetoric against the Knetz, even as you reveal yourself to be a credulous...KNET.
Scary.
I would LOVE to see all threads that descend into the acid bath of celebrity character and career destruction that always accompany these ritualistic J and K "controversies" shut down, quickly.
But if not the one that helped kill off Lee Sun Kyun 15 months ago, why this one?
Although, it's true that if MDL began doing just as I wrote above, it would be a sign of great progress. However, it would follow that the mods would need to close down, if only temporarily, the threads beneath each of the shows featuring the celebrity currently selected for destruction. The Knetz gather there also, not just in threads under profiles.
It's mind-boggling.
They toss off lies, rumors, assumptions, and character assassination in nauseatingly casual fashion, as if taking a mere accusation from an anonymous source as gospel and repeating it while adding new spin on what these juicy gems must say about the celebrity they are crucifying is nothing; nothing at all to them. Because, casually destroying people on the flimsiest of evidence IS nothing to them.
Are you suggesting that if I wrote with genteel kindness here, delicately pointing out to these people that they may be pushing another young person toward a tragic end with their loose words, they would realize the error of their ways and stop? Is that what you're saying?
Naturally, when someone like me pushes back in like fashion and doles back at them some of what they dole out, they try to flip the script and play victim. That tactic does not work on me. I am not here to set an example of how to behave for Knetz who know full well that how they are behaving is disgusting.
I have seen it happen in real time and read about dozens of other times when what is going on in this thread led to...yep, the suicide of a celebrity. Are you telling me that to shine a light on that happening yet again is rude and offensive?
I have an idea: Why don't MDL mods shut down all threads that turn into acid baths of bile and hatred over yet another celebrity's alleged failings? Why is it only when commenters like me push back against the Knetz that threads start getting cleansed and closed?
Note: Your accusation that I "want to put every critic" into the category of Knetz is specious. I select those I respond to with a purpose. They repeat unproven allegations as assumed facts or they write presuming the artist to be guilty and speak of him in a past-tense, post-career sort of way that feeds the beast as effectively as repeating the lies.
Numberless, anonymous Knetz post countless comments insulting, degrading, falsely accusing, lying about, and being obscenely aggressive toward celebrity entertainers.
Anti-Knetz posts comments insulting, degrading, accurately accusing, telling the truth about, and being justifiably aggressive toward Knetz commenters.
Poor, delicate Knetz go whining to MDL mods that someone has insulted, degraded, accused, told the truth about, and been aggressive toward them for all of the above.
MDL deletes the anti-Knetz comment for insulting, degrading, accusing, and being aggressive toward the Knetz but leaves Knetz comments up that are are of the exact same type toward the celebrity.
Well done, MDL.
Numberless, anonymous Knetz post countless comments insulting, degrading, falsely accusing, lying about, and being obscenely aggressive toward celebrity entertainers.
Anti-Knetz posts comments insulting, degrading, accurately accusing, telling the truth about, and being justifiably aggressive toward Knetz commenters.
Poor, delicate Knetz go whining to MDL mods that someone has insulted, degraded, accused, told the truth about, and been aggressive toward them for all of the above.
MDL deletes the anti-Knetz comment for insulting, degrading, accusing, and being aggressive toward the Knetz but leaves ALL Knetz comments up that are are of the exact same type toward the anti-Knetz and the celebrity.
Well done, MDL.
Also Loony Luka: "You are so ruuuuuuuuude to me. waaaaaaaaaa...STOP being ruuuuuuuude to me, you meanie, seriously mentally not well, baddie person!!!"
Lame is your middle name.
Take all your faux outrage over being called out for what you are and what you are doing, aim it at a mirror and direct it back at yourself. Projection is a real thing. It's hilarious that you're pretending to be offended at being accused of helping to potentially drive another celeb to suicide based on unproven "allegations" when that is exactly what you are doing. But then, that's right out of the KKK playbook: Do disgusting things and then rant about how "disgusting" it is to be nailed for doing disgusting things. You're a delusional nutjob, like all KKKs.
I know exactly what you Knetz Killer Klowns are all about, as I stated above.
Go stick your head back in the bucket of slime you're aiming at this fine young actor. Soak it there for while. Breathe some of it in. Breathing slime should be no problem for you.
Is that too strong; too much for your delicate sensibilities? Oh dear... What's too strong, too much is Knetz like you doing your best to destroy yet another entertainer before you know so much as a speck about what happened, if anything happened at all. You don't care about such niceties. It's oh so much more fun to run to the suicide playbook and initiate your strategy for how to kill off this talented young actor/singer.
Bite me.
Of course, people are too quick to believe whatever they hear without evidence. That is common everywhere. What is not common are the obsessed fandoms and the regular celeb suicides that take place in Korea/Asia. If you aren't aware of that, don't bother me by responding because you have no idea what you're talking about.
"okay, im so shocked rn. i just finished watching Miseinen and i saw some comments abt him. BROOO WHAT IS HAPPENING ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ i was soooo earlier but then booommm! im now sad and idk wht to believe." Does this sound like something written by someone who is wisely skeptical about such accusations as they are routinely hyper-sensationalized by trash media? What it sounds like is someone who is "too quick to believe things even without evidence"; someone who loves to write in all-caps to spice up the hysteria.
"I am SO shocked." Why are you shocked? We hear trash accusations like this all the time from Asian trash media.
I have been a huge fan of Asian films, BLs, and Korean music less than six years and I am already sick to death of the fucking suicides in that time, one after the other, and the dozens more over the 20 years before that.
The problem is that people who are part of the problem don't think they're part of the problem. You need to un-calm yourself and ask what is going on around you.
Knetz are so twisted. How does one "get involved in a scandal" just by being accused of something which may be entirely made up and overblown? Is that how he "got" himself involved?
"...could have been a big star." Hmmm...sounds like writing him off to me.
The point here is that of a deep sickness among the Asian fandoms that has resulted in dozens of celebrity suicides.
If you're "not believing anything right now," why are you saying shit such as in your comment above, which presumes there is something to be upset about?
Part of what keeps me from feeling stressed is unloading on Knetz Killer Klowns like the ones below when they pile on a celebrity.
I'm sick of seeing mainly Korean artists kill themselves after shit like this. wtf is wrong with Asian fans?
Nothing has been proven about this anonymous broad's accusations.
KK pleaded NOT GUILTY and deserves to be believed until proven otherwise. Yet, the vampires below are hungry to destroy another young man's career and hopefully drive him to suicide.
Did you come clean and clear his name? Did you apologize to him?
Meanwhile, grow up.
He has been accused by some anonymous broad.
He pleaded not guilty.
Nothing has been proven.
I'm not arguing with or repeating myself to you. You are unworthy of engagement; far beyond reason and full of depravity. "Evil," you say. ha.
"Evil" is a word thrown at the innocent by witch-hunters, the Catholic Inquisition, the NK government, the Trump administration, Knetz, and thousands of other vile cretins throughout history. Having zero facts on your side, you seek to distract from the evil in YOU.
F**k off.