How are you going to watch a Japanese highschool romcom and expect them to have sex like rabbits through the show?…
Nowhere did I state or imply that anyone had to "have sex like rabbits." That inference took root of its own accord in your little, sex-phobic brain. As for the lame "misogynistic" accusation, I refer you to my reply to another moronic MDLer's comment posted just above yours.
I realize "misogynistic" is a go-to, trendy label tossed around loosely these days, but your ignorant abuse of the term only disempowers it.
it's a simple high school drama. not every bl-related drama has to be to your standards of sex. if you're looking…
Your comment is non-responsive to anything I actually wrote, and your exceedingly lame and lazy use of the misogynist accusation is typical of a certain type of MDLer.
Nowhere did I write that ALL women are "teen girls," or that ALL teen girls fit my description.
"...teen girls who love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic..." Are you suggesting this statement asserts ALL teen girls "...love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic...?" If it did so, it might be "misogynist," but it doesn't. It very clearly refers to a certain subset of teen girls, those who "...love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic..." Did I repeat that qualifier enough times for it to sink in?
Teen girls who "love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic..." are a tiny minority of all teen girls on the planet, or even of the teen girls on MDL. But they are a large majority of the "teen girls" in this comment thread. In this descriptor, "teen girls" refers to all humans with this mindset, be they male, female, or otherwise.
Furthermore, I went on to refer to "...THESE teen girls..." twice, meaning the teen girls who fit my description. Not once did I indicate that ALL teen girls fit my description, yet you thoughtlessly leapt at the chance to throw around the word "misogynist" as though you know how to read. You don't.
My comment is the opposite of real misogyny, because it credits the vast majority of teen girls with NOT doing what I described. Please work on reading comprehension and apply it when reading my comments. Or scroll on by, or block me.
Just read through a bunch of comments below, and doing so helped me understand more fully why this show is a drag for me: It's a love-fest for teen girls who love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic, and the boys don't do any of that icky homo stuff that real homos do.
I believe "comfortable" is used 27 times in comments below. The teen girls are "comfortable" with homos as long as they don't take things too far into homo-stuff.
Hioki and Watarai exist only as puffy, sexless Teddy Bears these teen girls can squeeze, hug, and slobber over for 25 minutes per week, kicking their teen girl legs and squealing with delight as the two pretend gay boys pretend to fall in love and act all nervous and hesitant and overwhelmed, even if it goes on for eight episodes and not much of anything really happens.
It's the uncomfortable, repressed nervousness, eyelid-batting, and stammering these teen girls thrill to, as long as it doesn't really go anywhere, and the climax is a dead fish kiss.
Ep. 8: It took the entire episode for Hioki to utter two or three sentences. I know the stuttering and stammering is supposed to indicate his insecurities and disbelief that this is happening to him, but all the ummmms and hmmmms and ehhhh?s every week make the whole thing drag. At this point, his acting surprised that Watarai likes him is just ridiculous. He's heard it, like, 50 times. Also, what's with acting surprised that Watarai kissed him? He's come close to doing so also 50 times, plus having confessed 50 times. Makes Hioki seem mentally slow. Also, Watarai's a stalker. Also, if Hioki doesn't relax and let his personality emerge, this relationship won't last long. Loving a mouse is hard work. The three friends are kind of stalker-ish, too. And oh god, the trope of school girls being ditzy, boy-crazy airheads who spend half their time composing confession letters that will only be rejected by obvious homosexuals is exhausting, at least as portrayed in this series. I suppose a lot of viewers who haven't seen every f**king BL like I have may find it amusing, but for me it's tired. But then, this series wouldn't exist without tired tropes, so that's the way it is. I've invested four hours to this series, so I'll stick with it to the bitter end. I've always found Hioki to be cute, but he's trying my patience now. :)
I should have known far earlier than now, that I haven't "seen" an excellent Korean thriller until I've seen it at least three times. I thought I'd "seen" this one after just one watch, and now I sit, bawling my eyes out after a second watch, having caught all manner of important details I missed the first time. As I'm sure I will do again after my third watch.
Kim Jung Hyun is tremendous in the lead, but veteran actress Kil Hae Yeon steals the film as the mother. Outstanding.
I'm bumping this up a full point from my first rating.
I agree I keep watching the trailer! I also hope it lives up to my expectations as well. I find myself lately…
When it finally debuts, and you sit down to watch it, take five slow, easy, deep breaths, exhale gently, and expect nothing. That's the best mindset for me to take on any film. :) I don't always succeed, of course.
One thing about JBL that I really appreciate is that they don’t keep pairing up the same actors over and over…
You are one hundred percent correct. The shipper/fangirls aren't watching characters anymore either, but they haven't the discernment to know or the wit to care.
The person who put together the trailer deserves an Academy Award. I came twice.
The trailer looks so epic, and the actors so magnificent, I'm going to make a conscious effort to downplay my expectations. I am always open to being blown away.
You dropped the untamed, i don't think i can trust your taste. 🥀 (also saw u dropped revenged love, so can't…
"...just stfu." This is the distillation of what you and all fans of homophobic-censored-Chinese-trash shows always say.
Writing ability of a turd, given that you did not once mention The Untamed; moreover, you used the words "...these means..." in your little rant. Newsflash: in English, "these" is the plural form of the singular "this," which is the word one uses when referring to ONE thing, not two. Ergo, "these" clearly refers to BOTH shows. We are in a discussion thread on the TMS page, not the TU page. If you want to refer to a different show here, use its title.
Stop trying to use English until you can do so with some degree of accuracy, whether you're British, German, American, or the paid. Chinese bot I suspect you might be, in which case double up on the ESL classes before your PRC supervisor fires you.
I know plenty about China, its past, its present, its homophobic culture which denies the existence of homosexuality, its virulently homophobic, dictatorial government, whose anti-gay cultural laws lead to the creation of silly, coded-gay trash like The Untamed and this POS.
I'm a big fan of JP actor Kora Kenga, who starred in the original, but I found this version much more powerful. Love where one of the two metal balls ended up. :P Excellent acting from all three leads.
8.5/10
Korean film and drama characters sure do run long distances across Seoul or wherever, and never think to call a cab. :)
On edit: I didn't think I had seen Lee Ji Hoon in anything before, but just checked his bio to find he was the lead in one of my fave Korean comedies, "The Legendary Lackey." Lord, he is hysterically funny in that. I've watched it at least three times. Having seen him in this heavy drama, it will be fun to go back for a fourth watch. :D He is way talented. Amazing range.
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As for the lame "misogynistic" accusation, I refer you to my reply to another moronic MDLer's comment posted just above yours.
I realize "misogynistic" is a go-to, trendy label tossed around loosely these days, but your ignorant abuse of the term only disempowers it.
Nowhere did I write that ALL women are "teen girls," or that ALL teen girls fit my description.
"...teen girls who love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic..." Are you suggesting this statement asserts ALL teen girls "...love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic...?" If it did so, it might be "misogynist," but it doesn't. It very clearly refers to a certain subset of teen girls, those who "...love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic..." Did I repeat that qualifier enough times for it to sink in?
Teen girls who "love to watch two boys pretend to be homo, as long as the homo part isn't at all realistic..." are a tiny minority of all teen girls on the planet, or even of the teen girls on MDL. But they are a large majority of the "teen girls" in this comment thread. In this descriptor, "teen girls" refers to all humans with this mindset, be they male, female, or otherwise.
Furthermore, I went on to refer to "...THESE teen girls..." twice, meaning the teen girls who fit my description. Not once did I indicate that ALL teen girls fit my description, yet you thoughtlessly leapt at the chance to throw around the word "misogynist" as though you know how to read. You don't.
My comment is the opposite of real misogyny, because it credits the vast majority of teen girls with NOT doing what I described. Please work on reading comprehension and apply it when reading my comments. Or scroll on by, or block me.
Thanks.
I'm perfectly "chill."
Any assumption otherwise is of your invention, not mine.
I believe "comfortable" is used 27 times in comments below. The teen girls are "comfortable" with homos as long as they don't take things too far into homo-stuff.
Hioki and Watarai exist only as puffy, sexless Teddy Bears these teen girls can squeeze, hug, and slobber over for 25 minutes per week, kicking their teen girl legs and squealing with delight as the two pretend gay boys pretend to fall in love and act all nervous and hesitant and overwhelmed, even if it goes on for eight episodes and not much of anything really happens.
It's the uncomfortable, repressed nervousness, eyelid-batting, and stammering these teen girls thrill to, as long as it doesn't really go anywhere, and the climax is a dead fish kiss.
It took the entire episode for Hioki to utter two or three sentences.
I know the stuttering and stammering is supposed to indicate his insecurities and disbelief that this is happening to him, but all the ummmms and hmmmms and ehhhh?s every week make the whole thing drag.
At this point, his acting surprised that Watarai likes him is just ridiculous. He's heard it, like, 50 times.
Also, what's with acting surprised that Watarai kissed him? He's come close to doing so also 50 times, plus having confessed 50 times. Makes Hioki seem mentally slow.
Also, Watarai's a stalker.
Also, if Hioki doesn't relax and let his personality emerge, this relationship won't last long. Loving a mouse is hard work.
The three friends are kind of stalker-ish, too.
And oh god, the trope of school girls being ditzy, boy-crazy airheads who spend half their time composing confession letters that will only be rejected by obvious homosexuals is exhausting, at least as portrayed in this series. I suppose a lot of viewers who haven't seen every f**king BL like I have may find it amusing, but for me it's tired.
But then, this series wouldn't exist without tired tropes, so that's the way it is.
I've invested four hours to this series, so I'll stick with it to the bitter end. I've always found Hioki to be cute, but he's trying my patience now. :)
Please explain the "racist" slam. I'm dying to hear this...
I thought I'd "seen" this one after just one watch, and now I sit, bawling my eyes out after a second watch, having caught all manner of important details I missed the first time.
As I'm sure I will do again after my third watch.
Kim Jung Hyun is tremendous in the lead, but veteran actress Kil Hae Yeon steals the film as the mother. Outstanding.
I'm bumping this up a full point from my first rating.
9/10
The shipper/fangirls aren't watching characters anymore either, but they haven't the discernment to know or the wit to care.
Says the fan-service loving, super-shipper BL fangirl, the kind the Thai BL industry loves.
I came twice.
The trailer looks so epic, and the actors so magnificent, I'm going to make a conscious effort to downplay my expectations. I am always open to being blown away.
Did you watch to the end?
If so, why?
This is the distillation of what you and all fans of homophobic-censored-Chinese-trash shows always say.
Writing ability of a turd, given that you did not once mention The Untamed; moreover, you used the words "...these means..." in your little rant. Newsflash: in English, "these" is the plural form of the singular "this," which is the word one uses when referring to ONE thing, not two. Ergo, "these" clearly refers to BOTH shows. We are in a discussion thread on the TMS page, not the TU page. If you want to refer to a different show here, use its title.
Stop trying to use English until you can do so with some degree of accuracy, whether you're British, German, American, or the paid. Chinese bot I suspect you might be, in which case double up on the ESL classes before your PRC supervisor fires you.
I know plenty about China, its past, its present, its homophobic culture which denies the existence of homosexuality, its virulently homophobic, dictatorial government, whose anti-gay cultural laws lead to the creation of silly, coded-gay trash like The Untamed and this POS.
It's not that hard to just stfu, bot.
Love where one of the two metal balls ended up. :P
Excellent acting from all three leads.
8.5/10
Korean film and drama characters sure do run long distances across Seoul or wherever, and never think to call a cab. :)
On edit: I didn't think I had seen Lee Ji Hoon in anything before, but just checked his bio to find he was the lead in one of my fave Korean comedies, "The Legendary Lackey." Lord, he is hysterically funny in that. I've watched it at least three times. Having seen him in this heavy drama, it will be fun to go back for a fourth watch. :D He is way talented. Amazing range.
5.5/10