ksh's haters, go to work. you don't have to show so clearly that you're unemployed losers.
Bingo! lol
Of course, I often am accused of being unemployed, having no life, needing to "touch grass," being a loser, etc. because I dare to frequently post and defend my opinions here. What the Killer Suicide Knetz don't like to hear is that I am self-employed and do wtf I want when the f**k I want to do it. :)
Which is different than running to the bathroom during office or factory work hours to fanatically post insane, libelous falsehoods about a celebrity in an effort to drive them to suicide.
why would u feel bad for him? he dated a minor, he should be in jail rn...laws are there to be respected
Tia, you're simply another crazed, sadistic Killer Knetz with no life, obsessed with policing celebrity behavior and driving them to suicide. No one cares what you think is weird. No one cares that you think he "did it." Y'all are just very psycho. Seek therapy and choose to reflect on your own behavior rather than your fantasies of what you believe KSH did or didn't do.
wow. Lots of remarkably original stuff going on here.
I don't say this often because I enjoy long movies, but this one would have benefited from judicious editing. A good 30 minutes could come off and it would be a much better film. I had to force myself to keep going through the second, draggy half-hour, after which it picked up again. The director was too much in love with everything he'd done and forgot the old writer's adage: "Kill your darlings."
The final scene, which felt a long time coming, dragged on way too long. At first, I was deeply moved and loving what I saw and heard but soon I was rolling my eyes at how loooooong it was dragged out I would have gone to credits with the vehicles still moving alongside each other and both actors in frame...CUT! I don't mind a well-crafted, open ending.
The wrestling/rough-housing scenes were incredibly well-choreographed and performed but they all felt more or less the same until the last one. That said, they felt incredibly real. I had two older brothers so I know from rough-housing. :)
Both leads are talented and give beautifully naturalistic performances. I like that they are regular-looking dudes, not super-pretty/buff idol/model types. This too kept things real.
A few lapses in believability but nothing earth-shattering.
Finally, by the film's end, it was coming off as "gays-can't-be-happy" torture-porn but I'm glad I watched it.
I wish someone would edit this so I could watch that new version.
When did IU become the worst actress in Korea? You must be talking about someone else because that made absolutely…
And yet here you are again...with zero hobbies and too much time on your hands, lurking around and leaving fifty replies to comments you don't even like. How boring must your life be?
You are so far gone into your Killer Knetz Klown mentality that you've left reality far behind.
Get this into your tiny, weasel-brain, missy. There is no "YOU ALL." I did not know of Sulli until long after her death. I knew nothing of KSR until this ongoing insanity as YOU ALL try to kill off KSH. I have no idea who Sulli's brother is. I knew nothing of Saeron's family until they came out of the woodwork with the lies they're currently peddling and which will come crashing down on their heads in court during KSH's $8M dollar lawsuit against them.
I discovered Kpop and K-movies only five years ago, you psycho. Shortly after of course, I discovered the appalling, animalistic behavior of many Koreans toward their celebrities, which has resulted in dozens of them killing themselves over the last 20 years.
And now here I am, interacting with one of those animals in real time. You're a freak, a weirdo, an obsessed little mouse filling its days with online rantings meant to raise your measly self-esteem by tearing down famous, talented people who have done well. You delight in their destruction and the sense of power it gives you. You wet yourself when one of them takes their own life.
Sadly for you however, that thrill is fleeting and you're soon back on the hunt for your next victim, as you are right here and now. I wish upon you everything you have dished out to come down on your teeny pin head.
If you respond I will ignore it and block you. The more of you Killer Knetz Klowns in my Blocked list, the better.
Its style/vibe from the first frame is spectacular. Every scene is beautifully filmed, colored, and stylized. I love its look. KSH is lovely too. His physical beauty is made the most of here and the audience is the better for it.
But my god, this plot is insanely complicated and ultimately impossible for me to understand on one watch. Unfortunately, I found it overall so tedious that I dropped out 3/4 of the way in, when the gorgeous visuals and exciting OST were overwhelmed and suddenly, I was simply bored.
I fault the director for most of this. KSH has the chops to pull off the two/three/ten/whatever number of egos portrayed, but silly directorial/acting choices ruined it for me. One of them was KSH's over-the-top gum-chewing, designed to clue us in as to which ego we were watching. However, that affectation was amateurishly overdone, like something a high school play actor would do.
Another example was the multi-faceted, mirrored face mask worn by ego number 2 (I think...?). It is fabulously beautiful, but why would this character choose to wear such a thing and why would a doctor design it so? Did I miss something. It felt like a really cool visual thrown in because it was a really cool visual, nothing more, as are many visuals in music videos. This film often felt like it wanted to be a really cool music video.
Fight choreographer should be drummed out of the industry. Embarrassing. I rolled my eyes more than a few times.
Commenters saying this is a "porn" are the typical MDL prudes who think any display of beautiful human bodies is "porn." There are two brief and stylized sex scenes, no pubes or boners are shown, and again, the bodies are lovely. The sex is robotic and stylized too. And brief.
Many times throughout, I was struck by how much KSH resembled Lee Je Hoon, a comparison that never occurred to me before.
So, yeah, I dropped out. Didn't even care to see the end after spending 90 minutes on it.
The answer is simple as well. To run a nuclear power plant you need fresh water all the time to cool down the…
Yes, I know that. So, given Japan's history of violent earthquakes and tsunamis, why not build inland and pipe the cooling water to where it is needed? That would be more expensive sure, but more expensive than having the entire complex broken apart, then engulfed by a tsunami?
Maybe take a deep breath before you bring out the pitchforks? What exactly has the guy been a) accused and b)…
This is a beautifully-written post. Thank you.
As I read, I was more and more thinking I'd have to reply mentioning the responsibility of parents, etc. but right at that moment I came upon the passage here where you started in on how parents are responsible for this too. :)
Thing is, if you have a precociously talented kid who desperately wants to give the idol training a go even after a thorough, sit-down, no-holds-barred discussion of the horrors of idol-dom and the effect it has on its victims, it would be extremely difficult to flatly say "no, I will not allow this." You'd end up with a furiously resentful child and potentially damage that relationship permanently.
What I hadn't given a lot of thought to is how many of these kids come from broken homes and unhealthy parenting; a situation in which there really IS no authority figure who would take the time and attention it takes to face what could happen, the pros and cons, with a kid. I'm sure you're correct; Many of the parents simply don't care or are mesmerized by possible $$$ signs.
And we must never forget the prominence of avoidant behavior in Korean society when it comes to mental health issues. Even today, acknowledging and discussing such things is loaded in stigma. I mean, 20 years of Korean celeb suicides and they still look the other way. I can't comprehend that because almost my entire life I have had an open attitude toward mental health. An injured psyche is no different than an injured leg.
What we see in this thread and the one under KSH's bio page is so instructive and horrifying I don't know where to put it in my head.
It's just pointless. We live in an era of new Victorian morality, or rather reverse Victorian morality. Where…
omg, lol, I've been called every vile name you can imagine on these threads as the new Victorians (love that) take over the world and seek to crush the last bit of fun out of life and sex. I used to call them the MDL Church Ladies or Little Girls. Or panty-sniffers or sex-negatives or prissy prudes or a hundred other names...
But this thing with deliberately seeking to drive Korean celebs to suicide, KNOWING the whole time exactly what they are doing and knowing that dozens of K-celebs have killed themselves over the last 20 years in exactly the same circumstances, is a whole other level of evil.
This latest bit with KSH is the first time I've watched it close-up in real time as it happened, at least since they killed off Lee Sun Kyun 15 months ago. It is appalling. I'm holding my breath and hoping he has a strong, close support system around him who are keeping close tabs. If you saw any part of his press conference, he is a wreck over this.
But when someone these snakes has targeted tells their side of things and dares to weep, they are immediately denounced as fake tears and "terrible acting," blah blah blah. There is nothing to be said to these freaks that will make a difference.
Which is why I just a few minutes ago blocked two of the more poisonous snakes I had gone at it with...just really black--hearted cretins. I thought "what am I doing? This isn't going to make any difference..."
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Of course, I often am accused of being unemployed, having no life, needing to "touch grass," being a loser, etc. because I dare to frequently post and defend my opinions here. What the Killer Suicide Knetz don't like to hear is that I am self-employed and do wtf I want when the f**k I want to do it. :)
Which is different than running to the bathroom during office or factory work hours to fanatically post insane, libelous falsehoods about a celebrity in an effort to drive them to suicide.
No one cares that you think he "did it."
Y'all are just very psycho.
Seek therapy and choose to reflect on your own behavior rather than your fantasies of what you believe KSH did or didn't do.
I wish you well.
That said, I saw some nice, original stuff too.
I don't say this often because I enjoy long movies, but this one would have benefited from judicious editing. A good 30 minutes could come off and it would be a much better film. I had to force myself to keep going through the second, draggy half-hour, after which it picked up again. The director was too much in love with everything he'd done and forgot the old writer's adage: "Kill your darlings."
The final scene, which felt a long time coming, dragged on way too long. At first, I was deeply moved and loving what I saw and heard but soon I was rolling my eyes at how loooooong it was dragged out I would have gone to credits with the vehicles still moving alongside each other and both actors in frame...CUT! I don't mind a well-crafted, open ending.
The wrestling/rough-housing scenes were incredibly well-choreographed and performed but they all felt more or less the same until the last one. That said, they felt incredibly real. I had two older brothers so I know from rough-housing. :)
Both leads are talented and give beautifully naturalistic performances. I like that they are regular-looking dudes, not super-pretty/buff idol/model types. This too kept things real.
A few lapses in believability but nothing earth-shattering.
Finally, by the film's end, it was coming off as "gays-can't-be-happy" torture-porn but I'm glad I watched it.
I wish someone would edit this so I could watch that new version.
8/10
I can do this all night...
Believe as you will. I'm not going to argue with you.
Get this into your tiny, weasel-brain, missy. There is no "YOU ALL." I did not know of Sulli until long after her death. I knew nothing of KSR until this ongoing insanity as YOU ALL try to kill off KSH. I have no idea who Sulli's brother is. I knew nothing of Saeron's family until they came out of the woodwork with the lies they're currently peddling and which will come crashing down on their heads in court during KSH's $8M dollar lawsuit against them.
I discovered Kpop and K-movies only five years ago, you psycho. Shortly after of course, I discovered the appalling, animalistic behavior of many Koreans toward their celebrities, which has resulted in dozens of them killing themselves over the last 20 years.
And now here I am, interacting with one of those animals in real time. You're a freak, a weirdo, an obsessed little mouse filling its days with online rantings meant to raise your measly self-esteem by tearing down famous, talented people who have done well. You delight in their destruction and the sense of power it gives you. You wet yourself when one of them takes their own life.
Sadly for you however, that thrill is fleeting and you're soon back on the hunt for your next victim, as you are right here and now. I wish upon you everything you have dished out to come down on your teeny pin head.
If you respond I will ignore it and block you. The more of you Killer Knetz Klowns in my Blocked list, the better.
Its style/vibe from the first frame is spectacular. Every scene is beautifully filmed, colored, and stylized. I love its look. KSH is lovely too. His physical beauty is made the most of here and the audience is the better for it.
But my god, this plot is insanely complicated and ultimately impossible for me to understand on one watch. Unfortunately, I found it overall so tedious that I dropped out 3/4 of the way in, when the gorgeous visuals and exciting OST were overwhelmed and suddenly, I was simply bored.
I fault the director for most of this. KSH has the chops to pull off the two/three/ten/whatever number of egos portrayed, but silly directorial/acting choices ruined it for me. One of them was KSH's over-the-top gum-chewing, designed to clue us in as to which ego we were watching. However, that affectation was amateurishly overdone, like something a high school play actor would do.
Another example was the multi-faceted, mirrored face mask worn by ego number 2 (I think...?). It is fabulously beautiful, but why would this character choose to wear such a thing and why would a doctor design it so? Did I miss something. It felt like a really cool visual thrown in because it was a really cool visual, nothing more, as are many visuals in music videos. This film often felt like it wanted to be a really cool music video.
Fight choreographer should be drummed out of the industry. Embarrassing. I rolled my eyes more than a few times.
Commenters saying this is a "porn" are the typical MDL prudes who think any display of beautiful human bodies is "porn." There are two brief and stylized sex scenes, no pubes or boners are shown, and again, the bodies are lovely. The sex is robotic and stylized too. And brief.
Many times throughout, I was struck by how much KSH resembled Lee Je Hoon, a comparison that never occurred to me before.
So, yeah, I dropped out. Didn't even care to see the end after spending 90 minutes on it.
3/10 for visuals and music only.
As I read, I was more and more thinking I'd have to reply mentioning the responsibility of parents, etc. but right at that moment I came upon the passage here where you started in on how parents are responsible for this too. :)
Thing is, if you have a precociously talented kid who desperately wants to give the idol training a go even after a thorough, sit-down, no-holds-barred discussion of the horrors of idol-dom and the effect it has on its victims, it would be extremely difficult to flatly say "no, I will not allow this." You'd end up with a furiously resentful child and potentially damage that relationship permanently.
What I hadn't given a lot of thought to is how many of these kids come from broken homes and unhealthy parenting; a situation in which there really IS no authority figure who would take the time and attention it takes to face what could happen, the pros and cons, with a kid. I'm sure you're correct; Many of the parents simply don't care or are mesmerized by possible $$$ signs.
And we must never forget the prominence of avoidant behavior in Korean society when it comes to mental health issues. Even today, acknowledging and discussing such things is loaded in stigma. I mean, 20 years of Korean celeb suicides and they still look the other way. I can't comprehend that because almost my entire life I have had an open attitude toward mental health. An injured psyche is no different than an injured leg.
What we see in this thread and the one under KSH's bio page is so instructive and horrifying I don't know where to put it in my head.
But this thing with deliberately seeking to drive Korean celebs to suicide, KNOWING the whole time exactly what they are doing and knowing that dozens of K-celebs have killed themselves over the last 20 years in exactly the same circumstances, is a whole other level of evil.
This latest bit with KSH is the first time I've watched it close-up in real time as it happened, at least since they killed off Lee Sun Kyun 15 months ago. It is appalling. I'm holding my breath and hoping he has a strong, close support system around him who are keeping close tabs. If you saw any part of his press conference, he is a wreck over this.
But when someone these snakes has targeted tells their side of things and dares to weep, they are immediately denounced as fake tears and "terrible acting," blah blah blah. There is nothing to be said to these freaks that will make a difference.
Which is why I just a few minutes ago blocked two of the more poisonous snakes I had gone at it with...just really black--hearted cretins. I thought "what am I doing? This isn't going to make any difference..."
Sigh...it's horrible.