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The dubbing makes this feel like it's right out of the PRC.

I'm not Asian. Why would you assume I was?
But yeah, I guess I am like Asians as you describe them, in that I believe words have meanings and purpose, and the way you use them is how you communicate ideas, concepts, and feelings to other people.

"Babes" is a condescending, demeaning diminutive, used to subtly demean whomever it's addressed to, and that's how you used it.

It's obvious from your other comments that you avoid thinking as much as possible, so take a chill pill and don't bother me.

Given that my one-sided crush is straight, meaning there's no chance of that going anywhere, yes, I would absolutely be fine with having sex with his younger brother under the same circumstances as Akira/Tutor. You downplay Akira's emotional state when he came out to Tutor and vice-versa. He was desperately depressed, lonely, and possibly suicidal.

The Church Girls like to elide that Tutor did not bring any of this up. He was with Akira because of his tutoring and saw how upset he was, and they began talking. If you think Tutor talking with him, having that outlet and companionship, and Tutor sharing that he too was gay, wasn't a huge help/relief to Akira, you are kidding yourself.

Church Girls like to claim Tutor "groomed" Akira, stalking and prepping him over time in preparation for the moment he would pounce and get him in bed. They are delusional. Tutor had no idea Akira was gay and no plans to pork him. What he saw was a young man desperately sad and lonely, so he showed compassion and interest, which is much more than anyone else did. Their physical relationship grew out of all that, not the other way around.

Church Girls also forget that Tutor encouraged Akira's brother to show more interest in him and get closer to him, if he could. Is that something a groomer who wants to keep his prey isolated does? No, it is not.

I don't recall Tutor "lying" about his contact with Akira's brother. Why would he say in the last episode that he'd be over to visit his brother, if he had earlier claimed to be out of contact with him?

"There are certain lines you don't cross unless you seriously want to have a future with them."
That is YOUR standard, not mine, and not a lot of other people's. (Who is "them?") I admire Tutor/Akira for handling their physical/emotional relationship as they did, especially in agreeing to part as friends and not be freaked out by Tutor's visits with the brother. Very adult/civilized.

Nobody lied to anybody. Tutor was open about sleeping with other men. What makes you think he doesn't know what condoms are, and that Akira doesn't know either? What makes you think they're having bareback sex, and Akira thinks they're monogamous when Tutor made clear that's not the case? How do you know Akira isn't on Prep. Why are you making stuff up?

Actually, Tutor maintaining his sleep-around habits and being open about that, was a healthy way to make it clear to Akira there would be no romance. And what if Akira caught feelings for Tutor? Well, then he would catch feelings for Tutor and they'd deal with that then. That's how life works.

Not at all.
Lame dodge.

lol
Your obsession with what other people do with their privates, especially those of a 17-year-old and a dude no more than five years older, is your problem, not mine.
Akira is not 13, though you'd like to think so, and all your verbiage above makes this issue no less a gray area than it is.
Your childish assertion that because something is illegal automatically means it is "wrong," is absurdly simplistic and naive. There are tons of stupid, unnecessary laws, and there are tons of offenses far worse than a couple of lonely gay guys sleeping together, that aren't illegal at all.
Also, you assert as fact several key elements of the plot that I don't agree are as you say they are.
Thus, I have no intention of correcting you or arguing with you.

You are more articulate than most of the MDL Church Girl Morality Police Cadets on this site, but you're no less one of them.
And you didn't use ALL-CAPS once!
Congrats.

Do you believe it is the duty of all films and series to keep you perfectly comfortable in your existing bubble?
Do you think your discomfort might be worth taking a look at?

As I've said in many comments in this thread because many of your type use them, ALL-CAPS do not make you right or make you sound more intelligent. They make you sound LOUD. One might think you're attempting to make up with volume what your position lacks in logic.

Yes, now I wonder...did it occur to you that my identifying myself as a "groomer" might just have been a bit of sarcasm...? No...that didn't occur to you? Unsurprising.

It is among the lamest of lame debate techniques to label someone who disagrees with you as the thing you find objectionable. For instance, based on what you've shared, I could label you a self-righteous MDL Church Girl Morals Police Cadet. Oh wait, I just did.

Another favorite word of your type is "disgusting," as though you get to proclaim who and what is universally disgusting to EVERYONE. hahaha No. You do not get to do that. People like me and my opinion on this matter disgust YOU, and you speak for no one else.

You have NO way of knowing the "majority" of viewers of this show agree with your prudish perspective on this matter. It is always you Church Girls who shriek the loudest about gray areas in human behavior, but volume doesn't indicate anything about what percentage of viewers agree with you.

The vast majority of people on this site comment rarely or not at all. They are "lurkers." I'm guessing the majority of them roll their eyes at your predictable, black/white silliness and scroll on past.

I'm unable to do that because I like to argue with people like you.

I know your type.
Your outrage is purely performative and has little basis in reality.

I know.
Good for him.

babes? wtf

Go away, Annie.
This show is beyond your levels of maturity and intellect.

Try "Bad Buddy."

I agree with everything you wrote except the "handsome studs" part.
I find the salesman extremely handsome/cute/sexy.
The little guy is sexy too. He has one of those interesting faces whose beauty comes and goes, depending on the angle, his expression, etc. Which is, of course, perfect for this part.

I agree, and I'm a big fan of explicit sex scenes.

But, these hilariously "bad" sex scenes make me laugh out loud. I like to do that.

Obligatory controversial but true fact:
The Tutor/Akira relationship was beautiful, mutually supportive, healing to Akira, and when it was time for it to end, the two parted in a civilized manner, as friends.

It's hilarious that the MDL Church Girl Morals Police are coming unglued over one of the healthiest, mutually-beneficial relationships in BL history.

I don't think much of this show in general, but the non-judgmental way in which the gray area Tutor/Akira arc was handled is admirable.

So, to summarize...you are against sex between two consenting humans, even when both of them, you know, consent?

Since you're finding their relationship defended/supported on multiple platforms, did it ever occur to you to consider that you might be mistaken?
No, of course not.

Do you usually take your moral direction from TV dramas?

Bravo.

lol
Idiot.

Don't waste your energy arguing with the MDL Church Girl Morals Police.
They are hysterical idiots who have no idea what they're talking about.
They're likely all about 13 years old, too.