etoks21

Yet, here you are again, explaining how my "shots" didn't land by explaining how my shots didn't land...or something.

I see you have as little sense of humor as you do taste.
Also, thanks for following me.
MDL tracks engagements with my comments and pays me accordingly.

"Isn't showing gay characters jumping straight to bed without deep emotional connection more homophobic?"

Please quote me where I wrote that the only alternative to this prudish, homophobic, Chinese silliness is that every gay character should "...jump straight to bed without deep emotional connection...?"

You can't quote me because I didn't say that. You made it up and then responded to what you made up. Try harder, and try not to think in black/white terms.

So, to be clear, you're saying that having an opinion held by a majority indicates a high level of discernment and taste, is that correct?
I live in the U.S. where Tr*mp was elected by a majority vote.
Need I say more?

Glad to know my "shots" got under your skin.

Why is he disciplining him?
I can't imagine that he cares that Dong Man is bad-mouthing Gyeong Se to his face.

A general "thank you!" to all commenters below, giving their thoughts on this richly drawn drama.
You're helping me get even more out what's going on, even though there's too much to handle in one sitting already. :)

Bingo.

I'm now glad it's coming out so slowly. Gives me time to digest. Each episode is far too full for me to eat in one sitting. I'll be rewatching 3 and 4 before #5 comes out.

And then, after it's all been released, THEN I will binge it. :)

If you're interested, I left a comment a few above yours about why I've come around to thanking NF for letting me have this in a slow fashion...

Episode 4:
...the phone call. Wow, the phone call...

I'm beginning to appreciate, rather than resent, that NF is allowing me such slow access to this wondrous work. Each episode is so full of small mysteries and miracles that, were I binge-watching them, I'd miss most of what's offered. I will watch at least 3 and 4 again before May 5th.

This show is a marvel.

Help, please: Why did the brother do what he did to Dong Man at the end? I don't get where that came from.

Marvelous.

It's true; taste and discernment limit one's choices.
Luckily for you, that's not a concern.

For people like you, willful ignorance is bliss.
Enjoy your show.

I made my points.
I don't feel a need to re-make them for your benefit.

You keep ignoring specific points I've made to support my view, and responding as if I haven't made them. You are stubbornly unwilling to acknowledge the crystal clear evidence that this very Chinese style of telling gay stories is in any way homophobic in nature.

Which is, of course, absurd.

Good enough. Enjoy your watch.

Did you actually read what I wrote?

"...please name a straight romance that takes 8 or 9 episodes to move from trip/fall/catch with sound effects to first, furtive smooch as a cliffhanger..."

In what fictional scenario would a straight romance need to be sublimated because of its very nature as straight? It might need to be concealed for a thousand other reasons, but not because it's straight.

I explained how it's rooted in homophobia:
"The Gay is too nasty to be out in the open among decent folk; it must be sublimated to be acceptable. Delivering the trope amidst pratfalls and nursery school sound effects infantilizes things: The Gay is not only nasty, it's also childish."

Lest I be mistaken for one of the humorless moral scolds on this site, I emphasize that I love humor, pratfalls, and the like; it's the repetitive aspect of this trope in gay storytelling, and the fact that so often, especially in CP "BLs," the relationship never does get to the open affection/kissing/etc. stage. It stays stuck in never-never land.

Oh, come on...please name a straight romance that takes 8 or 9 episodes to move from trip/fall/catch with sound effects to first, furtive smooch as a cliffhanger (I'm going by comments below from others who have watched the whole thing)?

It's the ubiquity of this gay-only trope that betrays its origins in homophobia: The Gay is too nasty to be out in the open among decent folk; it must be sublimated to be acceptable. Delivering the trope amidst pratfalls and nursery school sound effects infantilizes things: The Gay is not only nasty, it's also childish.

You're free to giggle and smirk at the proceedings, but they are what they are.

...because, as we all know, there are no options/gradations between the extremes of subliminal glances or full-out, naked makeout sessions, am I right? Clearly, there are no other options.

Glances and flirtations with silly sound effects are a childish, CP-Puritanical, homophobic version of gay romance, it's true. If that's what you're comfortable with, this show is for you!

I'm deeply hurt that you have granted me mere "potential" pedo status, when "active" pedo status would be so much more complimentary.

BTW...how did you Church Girls have time to post today? Weren't you in Sunday services and Sunday school classes? I hope you didn't skip out just to ream my old potential pedo/groomer ass.

Don't let SATAN!!! lead you astray, Girls.
That's how it started with me - one skipped church service and next thing I knew I was out in the playgrounds hunting four-year-olds.
SATAN!!! is cunning.

blah blah blah, repeat repeat repeat

Church Girl's "right," Etoks21 is "wrong," because Church Girl says so.

Again and again and again, I ask, when does the child-to-adult, full body and brain flip switch kick in, if not on everyone's 18th birthday at midnight?
If not, that means there is no magic date/time, and it doesn't happen in an instant, and it happens for different people at different times, which means that it's a gray area (like the rest of the universe) and depends on the specific people involved in their specific circumstances.

I find your presumption that minors deserve no agency over their own sexual choices, and are all as simple-minded and foolish as you to be as offensive as it is untrue.

In a universe of grays, Church Girls yearn for the simplicity of black/white moralistic BS, so they can make grand, self-righteous proclamations, just as you have done over and over and over here.

"Church Girls" = MDL self-righteous, sex-phobic, moral scolds who presume to pass judgment on all manner of gray area topics that are none of their business. You are the Neo-Puritans, the finger-pointers, the "sex is dirty" panty-sniffers who are trying to take us back to the 1950s. Go live there, but no one else has to go with you.