You seem like a very miserable person. Your hate is so funny. PP has achieved so much by himself, calling him…
" You do not have basic morals. " hahaha OK, sure. If you say so.
YOU are the one who used the term "professional critic," first. I merely thanked you and now you're being a twat about it. Oh well...your anger issues aren't my responsibility.
Nah...I'll keep writing here and anywhere else I please. Thanks for the advice, though.
Nah...I'll keep replying here and anywhere else I please. Thanks for the advice, though.
Oh...as I was slothing my way back into the "sewers," I saw you floating by, all brown with corn kernels here and there, right? You don't look well.
I think both Boom and Smart are very good acrors but i think u might have gotten Boom and Smart mixed up. Smart…
You are one hundred percent correct. I had them reversed because in his head shot above, Boom has hair in his eyes similar to Jin. The hair color is similar to Jin's also. Smart has dark hair above, so without looking more closely, I assumed one to be the other.
boom acting is world class. smart acting is good too, but boom is on another level. everyone is praising his acting…
My bad. I had Boom and Smart mixed up, because in the head shot above, at which I didn't look closely, Boom has Jin-like hair. oops! Yes, Boom is the far superior actor.
You seem like a very miserable person. Your hate is so funny. PP has achieved so much by himself, calling him…
Nah, I'm a homo myself, and I enjoy a quality drag show. I've attended many of them over the years. My problem with PP relates to that word, "quality," which he lacks. His particular brand of ladyboy/drag queen schtick is repulsive to me. And, as the kids say, my opinion is as valid as yours.
Disliking one particular gay performer's music and style does not make a person homophobic, though I know lots of people here throw that word around in an attempt to label and silence others who don't hold their views. Cuts no ice with me.
Again, the ugliest costumes I've ever seen in a professional, musical live performance were on the scrawny body of PP Kritt.
BTW, I'm flattered you consider my writing to be on the level of a "professional critic." Thank you!
You seem like a very miserable person. Your hate is so funny. PP has achieved so much by himself, calling him…
I'm sorry. Did anyone put a gun to your head and order you to read my essay? If so, I apologize on their behalf. You won't understand this, but I'll try anyway: I write mainly for myself. It helps me think through my perspective on a show and its various components. If that upsets you, well, that's your problem. Try skipping my comments.
You seem like a very miserable person. Your hate is so funny. PP has achieved so much by himself, calling him…
Nah, it took about seven minutes, but thanks. I'm good.
You are correct! I did get the two Boom and Smart actors mixed up, and thank you for correcting me. I didn't look closely at the actors' head shots above. I saw Boom's hair in his eyes in the photo and assumed him to be the actor playing Jin. I was confused, so thanks for straightening that out for me. I edited my comment above so anyone who makes it through my rant will won't be confused either. Yes, it is Boom who is the superior actor.
This is in fact just what is so great about this show. Because peoples memories are flawed. That is also the reason…
Yeah, this show is so deep and complicated in its breathtakingly original interrogation of the fallibility of human memory, and the misunderstandings which flow therefrom and lead to heartbreak...lol
Episodes 3 & 4: Thai BL cliches dragging this down, but I do love sweet honey...
MILD, SCENE-SPECIFIC SPOILERS BELOW:
I almost dropped this early in episode 3, but when I came to leave a comment to that effect I saw a couple other comments below once again mentioning how hot the sexy time scenes were. Thus, I discovered the key to getting through this now tiresome series is skipping ahead to the ST scenes and leaving the rest of it to those of you who enjoy this type of high production value garbage. Nothing wrong with eating garbage; but I'll be sifting through for just the sweet, honey-coated parts.
What had me at the point of dropping was all the standard, cheesy Thai cliches that always ruin these shows for me: Characters who are "acting" as "types," not people. Cliche, god-awful, over-costumed, over-sponsored clothing choices that scream TRENDY...buy this!!! Horrible, melodramatic background music, especially that over-the-top stuff that sounds like it's out of a SciFi disaster flick. In the middle of a to-that-point believable scene, a character suddenly says something threatening or dramatic and BOOM!, in comes the disaster flick pounding base and whatever. So stupid. Many a potentially good scene has been ruined by that shit in countless Thai BLs.
Speaking of which, the term "BL" is obsolete for shows like this. I'm not sure what should replace it, but this is a gay-themed drama of a type that grew out of BL, but is way beyond what BL used to mean. This isn't a slam on BL or on whatever these kinds of shows are, but it is not a BL in the classic sense. I watch almost NO standard Thai or K or J dramas, so I don't know, maybe all this awful, cheesy stuff I'm listing is standard to that genre, which would mean this is a gay-themed Tdrama, no?
Boom is a far better actor than Smart, that's just a fact. He doesn't "act," he inhabits the character. I see Smart "acting" a great deal of the time. Of course, it's impossible to know what he is trying to evoke most of the time because that stupid haircut completely obscures his eyes most of the time. The eyes, as it's said, are the windows to the soul. You can't see in there if the eyes are covered in hair.
Besides which, it's not plausible that this actor, within the plot, has risen from being a nobody to near super-stardom, and he has not yet changed his haircut at all, especially from the awful, long bangs/back mullet abomination he wears. Either too much makeup or badly-done makeup. Especially on Jin. In close-ups, I see makeup.
Oh, and there's the standard top-bottom thing that was telegraphed from the moment we saw these two on camera in episode 1. We knew Jin is the top and Akin is the bottom. Sure enough, by episode 4, this is confirmed and it's so predictable, cliche, and boring. When is a writer or director going to catch a clue that it would be interesting and hot af to switch that up and surprise us instead of pushing the same old, same old?
The honey scene...of course, it had potential and was undeniably hot once it got going. However, it came out of NOWHERE. There was no lead-up, no teasing dialogue, no little bit where one accidentally spilled honey on the other, maybe on his finger and then coyly licked it off, and then one thing led to another, to another, to another...and boom!
Instead, we got some sexy making out (I don't know if it's makeup or real, but Akin's skin hot-flashing red like actual, light skinned people do when turned on, is incredibly sexy and realistic. Combined with his ability to lose himself in the character in the moment, that is remarkable stuff.), and then all of a sudden, a huge glob of honey was running down somebody's chest...etc., etc. It was all so staged and rehearsed and presented with glaring light and weird, tinkling piano music that wrecked it for me. Too many quick cuts and artsy-fartsy editing that calls attention to itself too. Too bad, that could have been an epic scene. I feel bad for the maid who has to try to scrub the dried honey out of that ugly yellow carpet in the morning ( along with the dried spooge.)
The further I get into this, the less I find Smart a convincing actor. Interesting, poofy lips, but I do wish he'd stop mouth-breathing. That's another problem.
OK, now that I know to just skip ahead to sexy time scenes and forget the rest, I look forward to wrapping this show up in another couple watches. But even while skipping ahead through 3 and 4, that's more than enough for today.
I could see Boom having a successful film/drama career, but I don't watch Thai dramas, and I don't know much about the Thai film industry, so maybe I'll never know.
Speaking of which, the new Thai film, "Let's Make Millions Before Grandma Dies" (horrible title), currently airing on Netflix and starring Billkin, of ITSAY and IPYTM (now those are BLs), is fantasic. If you can access it, I highly recommend it. It's nice to see Billkin's career continuing its upward trajectory. His performance in the movie is especially enjoyable because there is no sign of the dreaded PP Krit, who seems to have attached himself to Billkin like a leech.
Why do you think this movie "wouldn't be made" these days?
Yes, I do. Why wouldn't there be? All sorts of gross behaviors are portrayed in all kinds of media, including film. Incest has been a plot point in fictional stories and performances for thousands of years. You're not going to stop it. A recent, extremely popular and financially successful HBO series portrays two brothers making out while drunk. A new sequel to a wildly successful Hollywood films portrays hot lovemaking between two-thirds of a set of female triplets. I could list a lot more examples from countries all over the world.
Incest is there because it is an extremely powerful taboo that makes for great and powerful drama. If you know of a film that includes it in its story, don't watch it. Try that.
The attempts of people like you to censor what gets included in film, books, plays, and everything else have been and will continue to be a huge failure, thank goodness.
I just finished the first episode and am about to start the second.Curious: What did you see in that first ep…
I don't care what is now "considered" sexual assault. Whether in legal terms or cultural terms, calling the act of someone touching someone else's forehead without "consent" sexual assault is bat-shit crazy. It is appalling that such tiny physical acts have been criminalized, especially into a sexual category, to appease NeoPuritans such as yourself.
You know what a sensible, decent, mature person does when someone touches their forehead and they don't like it? They say, "Please don't touch me anywhere on my body without permission, OK?" Then, if the person does it again, they can go running to the police. Same with a kiss, an attempted kiss, a photograph, or anything else such as that.
Touching a forehead is a tad different from grabbing a crotch, wouldn't you say? Attempting a kiss in response to a mutual physical vibe is different than grabbing someone's boobs or ass, wouldn't you agree? Stop policing other people's behavior and making natural, complicated physical actions that take place in a gray zone from black to white, automatically into crimes.
If someone says "stop," anything further is a crime, I get it. Kissing someone gently on the lips while they're asleep because you are intensely attracted to them romantically and are caught up in the vibe of the moment, MIGHT be inappropriate, depending on the circumstances and the people involved, but it is not an "assault."
Taking someone's pictured without permission MIGHT be creepy, depending on the circumstances and people again, but it is not automatically a "crime." It is a gray area situation and becomes criminal when it continues after a request to stop doing it, not on the first try.
But more importantly, regarding this show, these acts are taking place within the universe of a fictional story, not in real life, in case you haven't grasped the difference. The portrayal of transgressive human behavior does not automatically "condone" or "romanticize" that behavior to the audience. Even if it emphatically does so, it is not your or anyone else's place to censor that creative choice, nor assume that the audience is so stupid as to have their existing belief system altered by what they see on screen.
Does the portrayal of murder automatically condone murder? I'm hoping you know the answer.
Your arguments and unwanted monitoring, your attempts at thought, romance, and speech control, are tired and obnoxious. Grow up someday soon, please. Be responsible for yourself and your behavior. Stop preaching at others to fill your need to feel better-than.
Most importantly, stop watching shows you disapprove of, rather than watching them all the way through so you can come to comments and police other people's opinions and responses. It's annoying and transparent.
Self-righteous, prudish, busybodies are a fact of life, and constant push-back is required to prevent them from taking over. Thanks for reminding me of that.
I just finished the first episode and am about to start the second.Curious: What did you see in that first ep…
Yeah, I can see how almost kissing someone (twice!!!), touching their forehead (oh my god!!!), taking pictures (sweet holy jesus!!!, and (gasp!!!) kissing them when they're asleep is just like forced, penetrative intercourse to orgasm.
Exactly the same.
I'm imagining Akin as a woman (Akinita?), Jin as a bit less handsome, and...yeah, I still feel great about the almost-kisses, the forehead touching, and the photo-taking. And I feel especially wonderful about that lovely, soft kiss to the sweet lips of Akin. I'd have done the same.
Your NeoPuritan prudish/sex-phobic/censorious BS is already tired. Take it elsewhere.
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YOU are the one who used the term "professional critic," first. I merely thanked you and now you're being a twat about it. Oh well...your anger issues aren't my responsibility.
Nah...I'll keep writing here and anywhere else I please. Thanks for the advice, though.
Nah...I'll keep replying here and anywhere else I please. Thanks for the advice, though.
Oh...as I was slothing my way back into the "sewers," I saw you floating by, all brown with corn kernels here and there, right? You don't look well.
Lame passive-aggressive put-down. Try harder.
oops!
Disliking one particular gay performer's music and style does not make a person homophobic, though I know lots of people here throw that word around in an attempt to label and silence others who don't hold their views. Cuts no ice with me.
Again, the ugliest costumes I've ever seen in a professional, musical live performance were on the scrawny body of PP Kritt.
BTW, I'm flattered you consider my writing to be on the level of a "professional critic." Thank you!
You are correct! I did get the two Boom and Smart actors mixed up, and thank you for correcting me. I didn't look closely at the actors' head shots above. I saw Boom's hair in his eyes in the photo and assumed him to be the actor playing Jin. I was confused, so thanks for straightening that out for me. I edited my comment above so anyone who makes it through my rant will won't be confused either. Yes, it is Boom who is the superior actor.
Is it something like that, film school dude?
If that hug at the end is what makes this gay, give me a break.
4/10
Love Yoo but any story that takes that long to tell can't be worth hearing.
MILD, SCENE-SPECIFIC SPOILERS BELOW:
I almost dropped this early in episode 3, but when I came to leave a comment to that effect I saw a couple other comments below once again mentioning how hot the sexy time scenes were. Thus, I discovered the key to getting through this now tiresome series is skipping ahead to the ST scenes and leaving the rest of it to those of you who enjoy this type of high production value garbage. Nothing wrong with eating garbage; but I'll be sifting through for just the sweet, honey-coated parts.
What had me at the point of dropping was all the standard, cheesy Thai cliches that always ruin these shows for me:
Characters who are "acting" as "types," not people.
Cliche, god-awful, over-costumed, over-sponsored clothing choices that scream TRENDY...buy this!!!
Horrible, melodramatic background music, especially that over-the-top stuff that sounds like it's out of a SciFi disaster flick. In the middle of a to-that-point believable scene, a character suddenly says something threatening or dramatic and BOOM!, in comes the disaster flick pounding base and whatever. So stupid. Many a potentially good scene has been ruined by that shit in countless Thai BLs.
Speaking of which, the term "BL" is obsolete for shows like this. I'm not sure what should replace it, but this is a gay-themed drama of a type that grew out of BL, but is way beyond what BL used to mean. This isn't a slam on BL or on whatever these kinds of shows are, but it is not a BL in the classic sense. I watch almost NO standard Thai or K or J dramas, so I don't know, maybe all this awful, cheesy stuff I'm listing is standard to that genre, which would mean this is a gay-themed Tdrama, no?
Boom is a far better actor than Smart, that's just a fact. He doesn't "act," he inhabits the character. I see Smart "acting" a great deal of the time. Of course, it's impossible to know what he is trying to evoke most of the time because that stupid haircut completely obscures his eyes most of the time. The eyes, as it's said, are the windows to the soul. You can't see in there if the eyes are covered in hair.
Besides which, it's not plausible that this actor, within the plot, has risen from being a nobody to near super-stardom, and he has not yet changed his haircut at all, especially from the awful, long bangs/back mullet abomination he wears.
Either too much makeup or badly-done makeup. Especially on Jin. In close-ups, I see makeup.
Oh, and there's the standard top-bottom thing that was telegraphed from the moment we saw these two on camera in episode 1. We knew Jin is the top and Akin is the bottom. Sure enough, by episode 4, this is confirmed and it's so predictable, cliche, and boring. When is a writer or director going to catch a clue that it would be interesting and hot af to switch that up and surprise us instead of pushing the same old, same old?
The honey scene...of course, it had potential and was undeniably hot once it got going. However, it came out of NOWHERE. There was no lead-up, no teasing dialogue, no little bit where one accidentally spilled honey on the other, maybe on his finger and then coyly licked it off, and then one thing led to another, to another, to another...and boom!
Instead, we got some sexy making out (I don't know if it's makeup or real, but Akin's skin hot-flashing red like actual, light skinned people do when turned on, is incredibly sexy and realistic. Combined with his ability to lose himself in the character in the moment, that is remarkable stuff.), and then all of a sudden, a huge glob of honey was running down somebody's chest...etc., etc. It was all so staged and rehearsed and presented with glaring light and weird, tinkling piano music that wrecked it for me. Too many quick cuts and artsy-fartsy editing that calls attention to itself too.
Too bad, that could have been an epic scene.
I feel bad for the maid who has to try to scrub the dried honey out of that ugly yellow carpet in the morning ( along with the dried spooge.)
The further I get into this, the less I find Smart a convincing actor. Interesting, poofy lips, but I do wish he'd stop mouth-breathing. That's another problem.
OK, now that I know to just skip ahead to sexy time scenes and forget the rest, I look forward to wrapping this show up in another couple watches. But even while skipping ahead through 3 and 4, that's more than enough for today.
I could see Boom having a successful film/drama career, but I don't watch Thai dramas, and I don't know much about the Thai film industry, so maybe I'll never know.
Speaking of which, the new Thai film, "Let's Make Millions Before Grandma Dies" (horrible title), currently airing on Netflix and starring Billkin, of ITSAY and IPYTM (now those are BLs), is fantasic. If you can access it, I highly recommend it. It's nice to see Billkin's career continuing its upward trajectory. His performance in the movie is especially enjoyable because there is no sign of the dreaded PP Krit, who seems to have attached himself to Billkin like a leech.
Incest has been a plot point in fictional stories and performances for thousands of years. You're not going to stop it.
A recent, extremely popular and financially successful HBO series portrays two brothers making out while drunk.
A new sequel to a wildly successful Hollywood films portrays hot lovemaking between two-thirds of a set of female triplets.
I could list a lot more examples from countries all over the world.
Incest is there because it is an extremely powerful taboo that makes for great and powerful drama. If you know of a film that includes it in its story, don't watch it. Try that.
The attempts of people like you to censor what gets included in film, books, plays, and everything else have been and will continue to be a huge failure, thank goodness.
You know what a sensible, decent, mature person does when someone touches their forehead and they don't like it? They say, "Please don't touch me anywhere on my body without permission, OK?" Then, if the person does it again, they can go running to the police. Same with a kiss, an attempted kiss, a photograph, or anything else such as that.
Touching a forehead is a tad different from grabbing a crotch, wouldn't you say? Attempting a kiss in response to a mutual physical vibe is different than grabbing someone's boobs or ass, wouldn't you agree? Stop policing other people's behavior and making natural, complicated physical actions that take place in a gray zone from black to white, automatically into crimes.
If someone says "stop," anything further is a crime, I get it. Kissing someone gently on the lips while they're asleep because you are intensely attracted to them romantically and are caught up in the vibe of the moment, MIGHT be inappropriate, depending on the circumstances and the people involved, but it is not an "assault."
Taking someone's pictured without permission MIGHT be creepy, depending on the circumstances and people again, but it is not automatically a "crime." It is a gray area situation and becomes criminal when it continues after a request to stop doing it, not on the first try.
But more importantly, regarding this show, these acts are taking place within the universe of a fictional story, not in real life, in case you haven't grasped the difference. The portrayal of transgressive human behavior does not automatically "condone" or "romanticize" that behavior to the audience. Even if it emphatically does so, it is not your or anyone else's place to censor that creative choice, nor assume that the audience is so stupid as to have their existing belief system altered by what they see on screen.
Does the portrayal of murder automatically condone murder? I'm hoping you know the answer.
Your arguments and unwanted monitoring, your attempts at thought, romance, and speech control, are tired and obnoxious. Grow up someday soon, please. Be responsible for yourself and your behavior. Stop preaching at others to fill your need to feel better-than.
Most importantly, stop watching shows you disapprove of, rather than watching them all the way through so you can come to comments and police other people's opinions and responses. It's annoying and transparent.
Self-righteous, prudish, busybodies are a fact of life, and constant push-back is required to prevent them from taking over. Thanks for reminding me of that.
Exactly the same.
I'm imagining Akin as a woman (Akinita?), Jin as a bit less handsome, and...yeah, I still feel great about the almost-kisses, the forehead touching, and the photo-taking. And I feel especially wonderful about that lovely, soft kiss to the sweet lips of Akin. I'd have done the same.
Your NeoPuritan prudish/sex-phobic/censorious BS is already tired.
Take it elsewhere.
It's all good.