LOL S.Korea just shutdown their president's martial law and they ain't backing down on another president who wants…
Do you even know where the word "woke" came from or what it meant originally until the right-wing in the U.S. turned it into a negative?
I agree with you about everything regarding this faux controversy. But the way you use "woke," just as supporters of our new douche bag president Donald Trump do, pisses me off.
Wow. So many ballers in the comments hahahahahahaIf y'all want to see a full length movie COUGH up your money…
How weird that you think people should "not mention the format." I love this show, and I absolutely mentioned the format because the format almost had me dropping it at episode 2 out of extreme annoyance with the vertical clip format and its distracting effect on the story. BUT...the story quickly grabbed me to such an extent that by halfway through I wasn't noticing the format anymore.
Could you please tell me how to explain that process of my perspective evolving on this show without "mentioning the format?" lol
I love this series so much that I'm trying to figure out which episode they can watch it to, so as not to be crushed…
It's amusing that you would skip the ending of a series you enjoy because you assume the ending will be tragic. Actually, so what if it is? Life is often tragic, and tragedy makes for great drama.
Also, it is not true that all "great gay stories" end in tragedy. That's a cliche. Plenty of BLs and gay cinema end happily or open-ended, in which case we're free to imagine a happy resolution. LOTS of straight stories end horribly.
You loved it. All that "violence, nudity, sex, abuse," ya know. Especially since you're child wasn't home. It's…
When you wrote "child" in your first comment I immediately pictured a toddler. :P My kids are grown now. During their child/teen years, my ex-wife and I took the approach of generally watching mature films after they were in bed, but it also wasn't unheard of for them to be in the room when a sex scene popped up in an R-rated film; our strategy was to just wait for the questions and to answer them as honestly and casually as possible. I believe kids react more strongly to the overly dramatic response of the PARENTS to such scenes, rather than to the content of the scenes themselves.
In the same way that toddlers pick up on curse words and start using them (before he was two, our son, the oldest suddenly began saying "goddammit!" when playing with toys or blocks if something fell over or didn't go as planned. "fuck" might have made it out of his mouth too. lol
I will never forget the first incident, because he used it with casual force and in exactly the way we would have used it in reaction to something negative. First our eyes bulged, then we stifled laughter. The strategy was to simply stop cursing in front of him and his cursing wore off pretty quickly. lol
My point being that parents/adults are the source of the shame surrounding sex and the idea that it is always something "inappropriate" or "dirty" for them to see. Meh...sex is just a part of life, like any other.
On edit: I want to add that I differentiate any kind of violent, forced, or otherwise complicated sex scenes from the above. If something like that had come on, we would have stopped the film and watched it later. It's one thing to casually explain consensual, nonviolent sex to a kid, and another to tackle rape. You said your kid was 12. I would definitely be open to discussing even that type of thing if it popped up in front of us while watching a flick. That's almost teenager, and with the Internet and SM, kids now are seeing far more than we imagine far earlier, so it seems wise to be ahead of that curve.
You loved it. All that "violence, nudity, sex, abuse," ya know. Especially since you're child wasn't home. It's…
Oh. Sorry then. To me, your OP made you sound like a pearl-clutcher yourself. :P You're kinder than me. Being a smart-ass, I like the idea of MDL prudes and Church Ladies being surprised and of course, "shocked" by sexual content they weren't expecting. lol
The best part of their comments is when they watch a movie they are terribly "offended" by all the way to the end. :)
You loved it. All that "violence, nudity, sex, abuse," ya know. Especially since you're child wasn't home. It's…
lol What a lame attempt at deflection. Considering your comment above, you should be asking yourself that question. Are you watching a dirty, bad movie again today, all the way to the end even though you're terribly distressed by its contents? hahahaha
The writer, director, and producer don't care about your disappointment.Do you ever watch murder mysteries or…
No one need be clairvoyant to perceive that you put sexual transgressions in a league all their own. It's simply laughable that because a character chooses to stay with a partner who formerly "date raped" her, you decide to perceive the film's message as "date rape good!" Then you take it another step and decide that most of the audience is so gullible and brainless that they will take this message you made up and incorporate it into their psyche, as a result of which rape is now "normalized." lol
And yes, "densitude" is a word if I say it is. Ever heard of playing with language and having fun with it? But then again, how is it, since I made up that word and you read it, it wasn't instantly "normalized" for you?
It's almost like you were able to think for yourself or something.
The writer, director, and producer don't care about your disappointment.Do you ever watch murder mysteries or…
No, I got your point just fine. The point you don't even know you're making is that movies OFTEN include characters who find murder/rape/theft/kidnapping/infidelity/genocide/torture/etc. perfectly acceptable...which doesn't mean those movies are PROMOTING such things. For example, if this film portrayed date rape as "acceptable," then how is it you came away from it feeling it was UN-acceptable? Why wasn't date rape "normalized" for you, as you assume it was for all of us other, stupid, ignorant viewers who look to movies for our moral teachings?
Why don't you think movies in which killers get away scot-free "normalize" murder? Or do you think that? Never mind, you probably do.
What this is about, and I know this from more than four years of time on MDL, is that it is SEXUAL in nature, and you have hangups about sex that for you make anything transgressive related to it worse than murder.
That this character in this movie was date raped and later chose to make a decision about the offender you don't like, doesn't mean that choice wasn't valid for HER under HER circumstances, or that she doesn't have the right to make that choice. Movie characters do all manner of awful things, just like people IRL. Movies don't exist to make you feel comfortable. LOTS of women make choices like this and their stories get to be told also.
Did watching this film make you eager to find a new BF to rape you so you could later stay with him or something?
I'm too blown away to do this justice right now. Hell, I'm not thinking straight. Unlike all you brainiacs, I was clueless as to the real Mr. Lee's identity until it was revealed to the rest of the dumbasses. And what's with the ending? There's so much I don't grasp. Oh well...I guess that means I'll have to watch a second time, and likely a third, and each watch will be a pleasure. NEVER was I a fan of crime thrillers until coming across those out of Korea. Now I seek out thrillers...as long as they're out of Korea. Never did I see Jo Jin Woong as hot, but something about the way he played this character, from the moment I saw him on screen, even before he put on that robe, had me tingling. Wow. These fucking Korean actors...what is the deal? :D
There is far more about the why of all this that I don't understand than I do, so off to IMDB for some plot analysis I go, but...in the meantime...wow.
The movie itself was watchable, but far from great. But my biggest gripe is how the writers thought it would be…
The writer, director, and producer don't care about your disappointment. Do you ever watch murder mysteries or crime thrillers? Are murder and crime acceptable to you?
THIS MOVIE HAS AN INTENSE AND SHOCKING ADULT/MATURE THEME !!! Not for under 21.First of, WHY? JUST WHY? Did lot's…
And yet you watched 'tili the end. Does something magical happen for every human, male, female, or otherwise, at the stroke of midnight on their 21st birthday, that will make them all qualified to receive your permission to watch this film?
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Suddenly lost interest at about 25 minutes. Seemed interesting at first, then I got bored.
Dropped.
It's yet another case of Korean celeb/netizen/purity/media culture gone mad.
I agree with you about everything regarding this faux controversy. But the way you use "woke," just as supporters of our new douche bag president Donald Trump do, pisses me off.
There will be a rigorous vetting process.
:D
I love this show, and I absolutely mentioned the format because the format almost had me dropping it at episode 2 out of extreme annoyance with the vertical clip format and its distracting effect on the story. BUT...the story quickly grabbed me to such an extent that by halfway through I wasn't noticing the format anymore.
Could you please tell me how to explain that process of my perspective evolving on this show without "mentioning the format?" lol
Jesus, so many comment police on MDL.
On edit: ffs
There will be a rigorous vetting process.
:D
There will be a rigorous vetting process.
:D
There will be a rigorous vetting process.
:D
Also, it is not true that all "great gay stories" end in tragedy. That's a cliche. Plenty of BLs and gay cinema end happily or open-ended, in which case we're free to imagine a happy resolution. LOTS of straight stories end horribly.
In the same way that toddlers pick up on curse words and start using them (before he was two, our son, the oldest suddenly began saying "goddammit!" when playing with toys or blocks if something fell over or didn't go as planned. "fuck" might have made it out of his mouth too. lol
I will never forget the first incident, because he used it with casual force and in exactly the way we would have used it in reaction to something negative. First our eyes bulged, then we stifled laughter. The strategy was to simply stop cursing in front of him and his cursing wore off pretty quickly. lol
My point being that parents/adults are the source of the shame surrounding sex and the idea that it is always something "inappropriate" or "dirty" for them to see. Meh...sex is just a part of life, like any other.
On edit: I want to add that I differentiate any kind of violent, forced, or otherwise complicated sex scenes from the above. If something like that had come on, we would have stopped the film and watched it later. It's one thing to casually explain consensual, nonviolent sex to a kid, and another to tackle rape. You said your kid was 12. I would definitely be open to discussing even that type of thing if it popped up in front of us while watching a flick. That's almost teenager, and with the Internet and SM, kids now are seeing far more than we imagine far earlier, so it seems wise to be ahead of that curve.
To me, your OP made you sound like a pearl-clutcher yourself. :P
You're kinder than me. Being a smart-ass, I like the idea of MDL prudes and Church Ladies being surprised and of course, "shocked" by sexual content they weren't expecting. lol
The best part of their comments is when they watch a movie they are terribly "offended" by all the way to the end. :)
Is your child OK?
And yes, "densitude" is a word if I say it is. Ever heard of playing with language and having fun with it? But then again, how is it, since I made up that word and you read it, it wasn't instantly "normalized" for you?
It's almost like you were able to think for yourself or something.
The point you don't even know you're making is that movies OFTEN include characters who find murder/rape/theft/kidnapping/infidelity/genocide/torture/etc. perfectly acceptable...which doesn't mean those movies are PROMOTING such things.
For example, if this film portrayed date rape as "acceptable," then how is it you came away from it feeling it was UN-acceptable? Why wasn't date rape "normalized" for you, as you assume it was for all of us other, stupid, ignorant viewers who look to movies for our moral teachings?
Why don't you think movies in which killers get away scot-free "normalize" murder? Or do you think that? Never mind, you probably do.
What this is about, and I know this from more than four years of time on MDL, is that it is SEXUAL in nature, and you have hangups about sex that for you make anything transgressive related to it worse than murder.
That this character in this movie was date raped and later chose to make a decision about the offender you don't like, doesn't mean that choice wasn't valid for HER under HER circumstances, or that she doesn't have the right to make that choice. Movie characters do all manner of awful things, just like people IRL. Movies don't exist to make you feel comfortable. LOTS of women make choices like this and their stories get to be told also.
Did watching this film make you eager to find a new BF to rape you so you could later stay with him or something?
Good god, the densitude.
Christ.
I'm too blown away to do this justice right now. Hell, I'm not thinking straight.
Unlike all you brainiacs, I was clueless as to the real Mr. Lee's identity until it was revealed to the rest of the dumbasses. And what's with the ending? There's so much I don't grasp.
Oh well...I guess that means I'll have to watch a second time, and likely a third, and each watch will be a pleasure.
NEVER was I a fan of crime thrillers until coming across those out of Korea. Now I seek out thrillers...as long as they're out of Korea.
Never did I see Jo Jin Woong as hot, but something about the way he played this character, from the moment I saw him on screen, even before he put on that robe, had me tingling. Wow. These fucking Korean actors...what is the deal? :D
There is far more about the why of all this that I don't understand than I do, so off to IMDB for some plot analysis I go, but...in the meantime...wow.
Freaking highly recommended.
10/10
Do you ever watch murder mysteries or crime thrillers?
Are murder and crime acceptable to you?
Does something magical happen for every human, male, female, or otherwise, at the stroke of midnight on their 21st birthday, that will make them all qualified to receive your permission to watch this film?