This was literally 3 episodes of the same scene just from different POVs of the guys with some added scenes. Waste…
Yeah, I don't get it either. I thought perhaps they were all high when they made it, but unless they stayed high while editing and uploading it too, none of it makes sense. Oh, but none of it makes sense anyway. Quite odd.
They look nice naked.
5/10 All points for partial nudity, smooching, and talk of "cumming inside." :D
This is not a BL. Remember that "boys love" thing that is kind of right there in the genre's name, "Boys Love?" There is none of that here.
There ARE young, straight-passing actors hoping to use BL as a step to bigger things, by playing (supposedly) gay characters as buddies with none of that yucky, physical affection-type stuff that only real homos do, so as not to jeopardize imagined future career prospects in mainstream shows. And of course, there ARE legions of standards-free audience members eager to lap up whatever is placed in front of them in a slop dish labeled "BL." Many of them are in this thread below.
Over the last 18 months or so, there has been a regression in the quality of shows labeled "BL" coming out of Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. We seem to be going backward in tone, story, acting, directing, everything. I've no idea why, but this is the case.
Sad. Fight For You is terrible in nearly every way it is possible to be terrible. I can see handsome young men in many places other than in bad, fake BLs.
Lol! I was going to watch this but I didn't know if it was gay.I'm not into "BL" but, even though the straight…
"I'm not into "BL" but, even though the straight actors rightfully don't portray immorality on screen, I'm not going to sit through gaymance - no matter how fake."
So, am I understanding this correctly in that you are a hard-core homo-hater? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
If I'm not wrong, what are you doing here in the first place?
So Ji Sub is a talented actor. I'm not a huge fan of action flicks, but I'll watch anything he's in.
That said, it seems when it comes to films he is pigeon-holed as an action star, and that's too bad. He has a lot more than that to offer. Since with few exceptions I am not a drama-watcher, the action films are about all I get to see him in.
This is a good but very serious and sometimes hard to watch movie. I couldn't complete it but I may come back…
Do you mind saying a bit about why you found it so hard to complete, despite its good story and acting?
On edit: Never mind. lol I just started the film and knew within 30 seconds why it was hard to complete. I'm not ready for that tonight. I'll come back to this when I think I'm in a frame of mind to deal with that level of authenticity regarding what it portrays. :P
Why should he be trained if he's already trained? 😭😭
He is trained in Taekwondo, Judo, and Kendo. He is NOT trained in legally required police procedures of any kind. He is not trained in the use or proper maintenance of firearms. He is not trained in defensive use against firearms. He is not trained in the use of tasers. He is not trained in the use of mace. He is not trained in hot pursuit of armed suspects, including how to avoid/prevent harm to innocent bystanders. He is not trained in legal restrictions on use of force. He is not trained in arrest procedures. He is not trained in evidence handling to prevent contamination or invalidation. He is not trained in giving court testimony. He is not trained in writing reports. He is not trained in incident investigation and documentation. He is not trained in the use of police communications equipment and systems. He is not trained in the use of legal methods for search and seizure. He is not trained in the criminal laws he is supposed to enforce. He is not trained in the use of emergency vehicles. He is not trained in patrol/surveillance techniques and procedures. He is not trained in working as part of a team. He is not trained in interacting with the public, de-escalation techniques, or problem-solving approaches. He is not trained in first aid, CPR, or AED techniques. He is not trained in drug recognition or handling. He is not trained in dealing with domestic violence or sexual assault awareness. There are dozens of other areas in which this character is not trained or qualified to be on the street as a law enforcement officer.
Were someone like this released upon the public by a superior officer as stupid as the one in this film, he would be a time bomb of death, mayhem, botched investigations, and lawsuits waiting to explode. He and the people responsible for him being in such a position would end up in jail for gross negligence and many other crimes.
It was fun putting together this list off the top of my head. Do you have any other questions?
Three of my favorite Japanese actors in Matsuda Shota, Kora Kengo, and Ando Sakura (always brilliant). Only a few will like this film, and I'm one of them.
HE IS. Lily Alice is deliberately pretending he doesn't exist, as a continued persecution of Yoo following his…
Exactly. :( This morning, I emailed the mods about excluding Yoo from this article, but as you can see, nothing has been done about it, and likely won't be.
idk why she isnt fired yet.She is not allowed to let her personal thoughts and opinions into these articles but…
I have concluded that what she writes, or in this case does NOT write, reflects the editorial position of MDL as a whole. It is no accident that her garbage continues to be published here.
HE IS. Lily Alice is deliberately pretending he doesn't exist, as a continued persecution of Yoo following his wildly overblown drug trial and media-created "controversy." This is what Knetz do. Apparently, Lily Alice is one of them.
Hey Lily Alice! With this article, you have outed yourself as a vindictive Knetz, who shouldn't be writing for MDL or any other publication.
YOO AH IN IS ONE OF THE "HIGH FIVE," AS IN LEAD ROLE, AS IN ONE OF THE "FIVE" IN THE TITLE OF THE FILM. You deliberately cut him out of this trash article, including a mention and photo of the villain character/actor in his place. You DISAPPEARED him.
Yoo has been tried, charged, punished, and released from jail. The Korean public has resoundingly welcomed him back, as shown by the box-office records being smashed for his film, "The Match." What is your motivation for cutting Yoo out of this article? Please do the right thing and edit it to include him.
Its how asian looks. Only Idol have a mature look. The rest asian look so much younger compare to the West. But…
"...look as though they are in middle school." This is known as an" exaggeration," in which the writer overstates a situation or aspect to make a point.
This doesn't have the snap and clarity that most Strongberry productions have had. Things like the super-duper-soft focus, which we usually only get during the intro, but here are getting throughout, don't help. A lot of bits like the dude hiding his face from the customer while working the bar, aren't landing well. The director seems to be trying to make up for what's lacking here with an extra-loud and snappy jazz OST. It's not working. I hope this gets better fast. SB has a lot of nerve asking people to wait one week for each fifteen-minute episode. Absurd.
i actually don't think you like BL? 😭 i'm not a super fan of this one specifically but i don't think a 3 is…
Thanks for taking a look at my list. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Of course, much of what we're talking about comes down to personal tastes and preferences. That said, I have a major problem with the Thai BLs since roughly 2020, and their fondness for these elaborate plots, overwrought OSTs, melodramatic spy stories, etc. I found the entertainment business side of Top Form to be laughably juvenile and simplified. That "The Sexiest Man" thing had me rolling my eyes at how ridiculous it was, particularly in portraying film fans as nothing more than psycho, squealing fangurls and boys. Also, you can't have an MC who on one hand says he wants to be a "great actor," but whose main focus is on "The Sexiest Man" contest. :) It is that type of moronic silliness that has turned me away from a lot of post-2020 Thai BLs.
The subplot of the grandmother being someone who gave profoundly important performances of plays on a tiny stage in front of a few people on folding chairs, being nationally renowned for her work, was absurd. That made me laugh, too. The actress was quite good in her scenes with Akin, though; I was deeply moved by those two together.
To me, these sometimes hilariously amateurish but complicated plots in which the romances are set pull tons of focus from what ends up being a weak, supposedly central love story. Far more often than not, there is simply no budget to portray the world the show makers want to create believably, so we end up with a cartoonish facsimile like the entertainment industry in Top Form. The eeeeeevil film producer and the eeeeeeevil music that blared to let us know how eeeeeevil he was, had me laughing. I hit fast-forward a lot through this thing.
I have only been watching BLs for five years now. It's just that when I discovered this odd and wonderful little universe, I binged all the Thai classics pretty quickly, then began branching out into Asian films. At this point, I am much more into Asian gay/mainstream feature films, especially from Korea, than BL, largely because most recent BL is crap.
The reason for early BLs such as Together With Me and Tharntype being on my top 30 list has more to do with their significance as steps forward in BL storytelling than with having magnificent screenplays and acting. That said, I was far more moved by those shows than TF. Both shows pioneered showing full-on lovemaking and deep kissing between actors, instead of the fish-kiss/mannequin poses we got in the earliest BLs like SOTUS. The first time I saw a mannequin kiss where the camera swirled around dramatically to hide the fact that the actors weren't even touching mouths (SOTUS), had me going "wtf is happening?" lol And you could tell from their head positions they weren't even close. :) So distracting.
"Love Sick" is on there for its significance as one of the trailblazers in gay romantic story telling; and for the tender performances of its leads. I have watched the BL cut of LS three times.
None of my favorites feature elaborate spy/murder mystery/yakuza plots. In my preferred BLs, it is usually a high school, college, or straightforward business setting, and it functions as a stage for the main event, the love story. The business drama in Top Form is embarrassingly naive, like children pretending. I laughed again when, near the end, Akin was transformed from an actor to a...DIRECTOR! of a major feature film, in a magical, split-second. lol Again, like children playing "feature film industry" and staging a melodramatic, pretend meeting among business heavyweights.
No...let's leave all that stuff to the feature films with the budgets to portray those worlds in a believable way.
Finally, Thai films are guilty, over and over, of portraying fem gay men and trans women as screeching stereotypes, not real, individual, people. That little queen who threw the tantrum in the business meeting in ep. 11 is a horrendous example. That scene alone set gay rights back ten years. ;)
OK, that's far more than you wanted to know about my BL preferences, so I'll wind it up here.
i actually don't think you like BL? 😭 i'm not a super fan of this one specifically but i don't think a 3 is…
I love BL when it is well-done, but not when it's poorly done. But that goes for any genre. If you're interested, below is a link to my custom Top 30 Best BLs list.
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I thought perhaps they were all high when they made it, but unless they stayed high while editing and uploading it too, none of it makes sense.
Oh, but none of it makes sense anyway.
Quite odd.
They look nice naked.
5/10 All points for partial nudity, smooching, and talk of "cumming inside." :D
One of the most original and delightful shorts I've seen.
Bravo!
10/10
Remember that "boys love" thing that is kind of right there in the genre's name, "Boys Love?"
There is none of that here.
There ARE young, straight-passing actors hoping to use BL as a step to bigger things, by playing (supposedly) gay characters as buddies with none of that yucky, physical affection-type stuff that only real homos do, so as not to jeopardize imagined future career prospects in mainstream shows.
And of course, there ARE legions of standards-free audience members eager to lap up whatever is placed in front of them in a slop dish labeled "BL." Many of them are in this thread below.
Over the last 18 months or so, there has been a regression in the quality of shows labeled "BL" coming out of Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. We seem to be going backward in tone, story, acting, directing, everything. I've no idea why, but this is the case.
Sad.
Fight For You is terrible in nearly every way it is possible to be terrible.
I can see handsome young men in many places other than in bad, fake BLs.
Dropped.
1/10
So, am I understanding this correctly in that you are a hard-core homo-hater? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
If I'm not wrong, what are you doing here in the first place?
That said, it seems when it comes to films he is pigeon-holed as an action star, and that's too bad. He has a lot more than that to offer. Since with few exceptions I am not a drama-watcher, the action films are about all I get to see him in.
Oh well...fighting.
On edit: Never mind. lol I just started the film and knew within 30 seconds why it was hard to complete. I'm not ready for that tonight. I'll come back to this when I think I'm in a frame of mind to deal with that level of authenticity regarding what it portrays. :P
He is NOT trained in legally required police procedures of any kind.
He is not trained in the use or proper maintenance of firearms.
He is not trained in defensive use against firearms.
He is not trained in the use of tasers.
He is not trained in the use of mace.
He is not trained in hot pursuit of armed suspects, including how to avoid/prevent harm to innocent bystanders.
He is not trained in legal restrictions on use of force.
He is not trained in arrest procedures.
He is not trained in evidence handling to prevent contamination or invalidation.
He is not trained in giving court testimony.
He is not trained in writing reports.
He is not trained in incident investigation and documentation.
He is not trained in the use of police communications equipment and systems.
He is not trained in the use of legal methods for search and seizure.
He is not trained in the criminal laws he is supposed to enforce.
He is not trained in the use of emergency vehicles.
He is not trained in patrol/surveillance techniques and procedures.
He is not trained in working as part of a team.
He is not trained in interacting with the public, de-escalation techniques, or problem-solving approaches.
He is not trained in first aid, CPR, or AED techniques.
He is not trained in drug recognition or handling.
He is not trained in dealing with domestic violence or sexual assault awareness.
There are dozens of other areas in which this character is not trained or qualified to be on the street as a law enforcement officer.
Were someone like this released upon the public by a superior officer as stupid as the one in this film, he would be a time bomb of death, mayhem, botched investigations, and lawsuits waiting to explode.
He and the people responsible for him being in such a position would end up in jail for gross negligence and many other crimes.
It was fun putting together this list off the top of my head. Do you have any other questions?
Cute emojis, by the way.
You guess correctly. :)
Not a single one.
9/10
This morning, I emailed the mods about excluding Yoo from this article, but as you can see, nothing has been done about it, and likely won't be.
YOO AH IN IS ONE OF THE "HIGH FIVE," AS IN LEAD ROLE, AS IN ONE OF THE "FIVE" IN THE TITLE OF THE FILM. You deliberately cut him out of this trash article, including a mention and photo of the villain character/actor in his place. You DISAPPEARED him.
Yoo has been tried, charged, punished, and released from jail. The Korean public has resoundingly welcomed him back, as shown by the box-office records being smashed for his film, "The Match." What is your motivation for cutting Yoo out of this article? Please do the right thing and edit it to include him.
Thank you.
This is known as an" exaggeration," in which the writer overstates a situation or aspect to make a point.
You must live a sheltered life.
This doesn't have the snap and clarity that most Strongberry productions have had. Things like the super-duper-soft focus, which we usually only get during the intro, but here are getting throughout, don't help. A lot of bits like the dude hiding his face from the customer while working the bar, aren't landing well.
The director seems to be trying to make up for what's lacking here with an extra-loud and snappy jazz OST. It's not working.
I hope this gets better fast.
SB has a lot of nerve asking people to wait one week for each fifteen-minute episode. Absurd.
Of course, much of what we're talking about comes down to personal tastes and preferences. That said, I have a major problem with the Thai BLs since roughly 2020, and their fondness for these elaborate plots, overwrought OSTs, melodramatic spy stories, etc. I found the entertainment business side of Top Form to be laughably juvenile and simplified. That "The Sexiest Man" thing had me rolling my eyes at how ridiculous it was, particularly in portraying film fans as nothing more than psycho, squealing fangurls and boys. Also, you can't have an MC who on one hand says he wants to be a "great actor," but whose main focus is on "The Sexiest Man" contest. :) It is that type of moronic silliness that has turned me away from a lot of post-2020 Thai BLs.
The subplot of the grandmother being someone who gave profoundly important performances of plays on a tiny stage in front of a few people on folding chairs, being nationally renowned for her work, was absurd. That made me laugh, too. The actress was quite good in her scenes with Akin, though; I was deeply moved by those two together.
To me, these sometimes hilariously amateurish but complicated plots in which the romances are set pull tons of focus from what ends up being a weak, supposedly central love story. Far more often than not, there is simply no budget to portray the world the show makers want to create believably, so we end up with a cartoonish facsimile like the entertainment industry in Top Form. The eeeeeevil film producer and the eeeeeeevil music that blared to let us know how eeeeeevil he was, had me laughing. I hit fast-forward a lot through this thing.
I have only been watching BLs for five years now. It's just that when I discovered this odd and wonderful little universe, I binged all the Thai classics pretty quickly, then began branching out into Asian films. At this point, I am much more into Asian gay/mainstream feature films, especially from Korea, than BL, largely because most recent BL is crap.
The reason for early BLs such as Together With Me and Tharntype being on my top 30 list has more to do with their significance as steps forward in BL storytelling than with having magnificent screenplays and acting. That said, I was far more moved by those shows than TF. Both shows pioneered showing full-on lovemaking and deep kissing between actors, instead of the fish-kiss/mannequin poses we got in the earliest BLs like SOTUS. The first time I saw a mannequin kiss where the camera swirled around dramatically to hide the fact that the actors weren't even touching mouths (SOTUS), had me going "wtf is happening?" lol And you could tell from their head positions they weren't even close. :) So distracting.
"Love Sick" is on there for its significance as one of the trailblazers in gay romantic story telling; and for the tender performances of its leads. I have watched the BL cut of LS three times.
None of my favorites feature elaborate spy/murder mystery/yakuza plots. In my preferred BLs, it is usually a high school, college, or straightforward business setting, and it functions as a stage for the main event, the love story. The business drama in Top Form is embarrassingly naive, like children pretending. I laughed again when, near the end, Akin was transformed from an actor to a...DIRECTOR! of a major feature film, in a magical, split-second. lol Again, like children playing "feature film industry" and staging a melodramatic, pretend meeting among business heavyweights.
No...let's leave all that stuff to the feature films with the budgets to portray those worlds in a believable way.
Finally, Thai films are guilty, over and over, of portraying fem gay men and trans women as screeching stereotypes, not real, individual, people. That little queen who threw the tantrum in the business meeting in ep. 11 is a horrendous example. That scene alone set gay rights back ten years. ;)
OK, that's far more than you wanted to know about my BL preferences, so I'll wind it up here.
If you're interested, below is a link to my custom Top 30 Best BLs list.
https://kisskh.at/list/3rWQjk74