I agree that Muto Jun and the actor playing Fuji are doing outstanding work for a BL. It's hard to determine with the Sei actor because he's portraying Sei as very shut down and repressed in his feelings, so he doesn't have many chances to show a range of emotions.
On his wrist there were marks of being gripped tightly and wrist is only gripped tightly when the someone don't…
I didn't mean to imply the overall presentation of an "assault" was "unbearable," lol, just that it was lame and could have been done much more effectively. I'm guessing the director toned it way down from the novel and that was a mistake. It was a "fish kiss" version of sexual assault: unconvincing.
Are you CERTAIN that Fuji/Sei had sex? I don't think that's been made clear. And if they did, the idea that Sei…
Oh. I edited that comment immediately after originally posting it. I didn't feel it was worth risking someone like you running to the mods over. But if you'd like to kiss my bum, go right ahead.
Are you CERTAIN that Fuji/Sei had sex? I don't think that's been made clear. And if they did, the idea that Sei…
Did you know that what happens in novels is often not what happens in adaptations? If not, I will gladly tell YOU that.
If there was a sexual assault it needs to be made clear, and here it was not made so except to those dying to interpret it that way. Poor writing/directing/acting in that case. It's not about the scene necessarily being "longer;" it's about what we see however long the scene lasted.
Lets be very clear, the fact that Sei stopped struggling and pushing Fuji off him is not consent, he just knew…
Part of my point, and I haven't done a good job of making it, is that if this was sexual assault the writers/director/actor did a poor job of making that clear. As the screen went to black, Fuji was nibbling around on Sei's neck and Sei was laying there like a rag doll, unresisting. Considering that the earlier sex scene between Higawara and Sei make it clear what was going on, I don't get why the director cut away from the alleged sexual assault so quickly, unless it was deliberately to leave what came next ambiguous.
Yes, Fuji apologized in the morning, but before the scene ended he already had a lot to apologize for. Given that Sei talks to Fuji and Hagiwara both in vague, non-specific, confusing language, anyway...what he said in reply didn't make anything clear to me. He's become so low-affect that it's hard to tell how he feels about anything.
@StarSoul414 You're joking, right? I see sex education still has a loooong way to go. Giving up on resisting physically…
lol I'm pretty sure you have no "sex life" other than touching yourself while you bang away at your keyboard as images of made-up sexual assault fill your little mind.
Can we stop romanticizing a sexual assault felon and serial abuser as "complicated"?
This is a crystal-clear example of your lack of intellect/knowledge/bias: "...the commentator here to which I replied characterized Fujisawa as "complex" which regardless of his backstory (even if it's a sob story) is romanticizing a predator..."
In no dictionary anywhere will you find a definition of "complex" that equals "romanticization." You are a non-thinking fanatic. I clearly stated that to EXPLAIN how someone who does a bad thing became the way they are does not EXCUSE the bad thing, yet here you are, flailing away still. Another sure sign of your anti-intellectualism is your need to perceive of matters in a black/white, all-or-nothing way, which frees you of the obligation to reason and think. The universe is gray. Lots of good people do bad things. Grow up.
So you're going for a second outrage-gasm, I see. It's getting messy in here...
@StarSoul414 You're joking, right? I see sex education still has a loooong way to go. Giving up on resisting physically…
Any body language expert will tell you that passivity can absolutely be a sign of consent, especially when exhibited by someone like Sei, who is very capable of non-passivity.
Your trendy mindset that everything is rape is what's audacious.
I have zero concerns about "exposing" myself on MDL. I've been around here awhile and made my opinions on this matter clear. I don't care what Church Ladies such as yourself think.
Can we stop romanticizing a sexual assault felon and serial abuser as "complicated"?
Please point out where anyone in this thread ROMANTICIZED sexual assault. Thanks, we'll wait.
I repeat: "Last we saw then, Fuji was nuzzling Sei's neck while Sei lay there passively and not in the least bit scared." It is deeply weird that you automatically interpret, and that apparently the writers of this show intended us to interpret, gentle neck nuzzling of a passive, supine, sober, coherent person as sexual assault. But then, you do sound like a weird person. There was NOTHING "explicit" about that scene. Like "sexual assault," you throw around words as if they have only the meaning you ascribe to them.
Finally...when are you going to admit you are totally getting off on your melodramatic outrage here. In leaving all these comments, have you managed to achieve climax?
And again, why are you still watching this deeply offensive show?
Are you CERTAIN that Fuji/Sei had sex? I don't think that's been made clear. And if they did, the idea that Sei…
More lame deflection.
"troll account..." lol I'm fairly certain you're using a dumb ass account. Your line of thinking is still giving the mentality of a dumb ass and I like that for you.
One question: Why do you not spell out the word "SEX?"
On his wrist there were marks of being gripped tightly and wrist is only gripped tightly when the someone don't…
Exactly. I hate when an otherwise well-done show falls back on cliche shorthand like hickeys and poorly-filmed bruised wrists to automatically read "RAPE!"
I find your replies to me extremely rude. I'll be awaiting your prompt apology.
If there was a sexual assault it needs to be made clear, and here it was not made so except to those dying to interpret it that way. Poor writing/directing/acting in that case. It's not about the scene necessarily being "longer;" it's about what we see however long the scene lasted.
You disagree. I don't care that you do.
Yes, Fuji apologized in the morning, but before the scene ended he already had a lot to apologize for. Given that Sei talks to Fuji and Hagiwara both in vague, non-specific, confusing language, anyway...what he said in reply didn't make anything clear to me. He's become so low-affect that it's hard to tell how he feels about anything.
In no dictionary anywhere will you find a definition of "complex" that equals "romanticization." You are a non-thinking fanatic. I clearly stated that to EXPLAIN how someone who does a bad thing became the way they are does not EXCUSE the bad thing, yet here you are, flailing away still. Another sure sign of your anti-intellectualism is your need to perceive of matters in a black/white, all-or-nothing way, which frees you of the obligation to reason and think. The universe is gray. Lots of good people do bad things. Grow up.
So you're going for a second outrage-gasm, I see. It's getting messy in here...
Your trendy mindset that everything is rape is what's audacious.
I have zero concerns about "exposing" myself on MDL. I've been around here awhile and made my opinions on this matter clear. I don't care what Church Ladies such as yourself think.
Have you climaxed yet?
I repeat: "Last we saw then, Fuji was nuzzling Sei's neck while Sei lay there passively and not in the least bit scared." It is deeply weird that you automatically interpret, and that apparently the writers of this show intended us to interpret, gentle neck nuzzling of a passive, supine, sober, coherent person as sexual assault. But then, you do sound like a weird person. There was NOTHING "explicit" about that scene. Like "sexual assault," you throw around words as if they have only the meaning you ascribe to them.
Finally...when are you going to admit you are totally getting off on your melodramatic outrage here. In leaving all these comments, have you managed to achieve climax?
And again, why are you still watching this deeply offensive show?
"troll account..." lol
I'm fairly certain you're using a dumb ass account. Your line of thinking is still giving the mentality of a dumb ass and I like that for you.
One question: Why do you not spell out the word "SEX?"