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I don't care enough about your stupid, semi-coherent questions to answer them.

You also can't read English. I never said anything like "I have dropped every drama." I have dropped almost every Thai drama since 2021, except Moonlight Chicken. Deal with it.

No, I'm not "yapping like a dog." lol You've got that covered.

I'm American. From my experience with cops, this is how they are, in general, all over the world. It's only a matter of degree.

Great acting. Sloppy plotting. Too many contrivances and unlikely coincidences, to the point they became predictable.

Bravo to the fight coordinator/choreographer and the two MLs. Those are the most brutal, yet realistic one-on-one fight scenes I've seen. Fewer ninja moves/sharp fist-to-chin blows and more sloppy wrestling/struggling and straining to use whatever is available like IRL. That element was a refreshingly naturalistic touch in what otherwise was a film full of melodramatic cliches.

I don't get why this film is, apparently, considered some kind of classic.

From my experience with American cops, the cops here are no more stupid, lazy, and cliquish than ours, and their actions, or lack of, are entirely believable.

Because of the cliches/tropes/coincidences/contrivances, this gets a 7/10 from me.

Ignore her. There are a lot of USA-haters on MDL. They harbor a massive inferiority complex regarding their country and assume we feel the same, so if you're American and DARE to criticize anything in Asian culture, they lose their minds, lashing out in fear that you think the same thing they do about their society.

I'm an American too, and am well-aware the U.S. is fucked-up in many ways. So what? This isn't an American show, it's an Asian show so it's fitting that when we comment about an Asian show we make references to what's in it, in, you know, Asia. :)

I wasn't referring to you with my "MDL Little Girls" remark. I don't get that vibe from you. There is a reply to my OP above that was left by a person who is very much and MDL LG. lol I'm sure you can spot it without my help.

Thanks for letting me know there's a gay-cut version of the drama you mentioned. I will seek it out and see how many episodes I would be expected to watch. :D

I am all for dropping any show or movie if I'm just not feeling it, and I don't pressure myself to have specific reasons. It's funny, I've only developed that habit in the last three and half years after discovering the universe of BL, Asian gay cinema and Asian cinema in general. I hardly watch anything out of Hollywood anymore. I feel this intense connection with Asian stories featuring Asian characters. And I am attracted to Asian men like no other kind on the planet.

I don't have to explain either of those things to anybody. They are gut-level perceptions which I don't even know the source of. What does it matter anyway?

I like sex scenes, if done well. Most of the Thai BLs feel totally unnatural and fake to me, the acting is usually hilariously bad. As for sex scenes featuring some level of dubious consent, hey, it happens IRL, so its fair game for a live-action piece of art. Provides great dramatic opportunities for the story to go in all kinds of intense directions. Even some rapists get away with it IRL, so I don't see portraying such a situation in a drama as "condoning" or "normalizing" rape either. There have been a million movies made about murder, and I don't think they've "normalized" murder.

I love what you wrote about liking to see conflict and struggle in a BL, during which family members or friends who "disapprove" or even threaten to disown gay characters as they come out. Again, this happens all the time IRL and makes for great drama.

The BLs I've seen, mostly from Thailand, in which everyone is gay or gay-friendly, and no one has a problem with it, are complete, ridiculous fantasies. The most nauseating one I can think of I "Secret Crush On You." Actually, I hate-watched that entire show because it was fascinating how bad it was in every way, especially that it had all these hot, athletic, straight college students falling right and left for gay-fem dorks. It was unintentionally hilarious in that way.

Thanks for the conversation.

I'll write what and how I want. Thanks.

I don't understand: First you say you have dropped shows after seven minutes, even less, but then you say it's "wrong" to do so. I know and trust my instincts. To me, the first seven minutes of this show smelled like two-week-old fish in the garbage pail, so I dropped it. I didn't say anyone else had to drop it. I didn't say people who watch the show are stupid. I said I, ME, MYSELF, dropped it and I said why.

MDL Little Girls are way too sensitive about criticism of shows they like. They take a snarky dis directed at a series as a personal attack on them. That's their choice. I don't care.

Perhaps I should have made my remark about the current sad state of the Thai BL industry more clear. On my list of Best BLs -Top 30 Ranked, EIGHT are from Thailand, including Grey Rainbow. However, ALL of those shows are from 2021 or earlier. It is in the last three years that Thailand has become a BL crap-factory, turning out shows aimed at the lowest common denominator of the BL audience: very young people who will watch anything with a BL label thrown at them.

I'll take a look at "Life is Beautiful." Thanks for the tip.

On edit: Took a look at "Life is Beautiful," as promised. omg, no way! hahaha SIXTY-THREE FREAKING HOURS?! Lord, not a chance in hell. I'll take on an eight, or even twelve-episode series if it's a BL or gay-themed adult drama, but I don't do endless shows like LIB. The second season of "Love Sick," one of the very first BLs I watched (BL cut), is probably the longest series I've taken on. I much prefer films and limited series.

OK. That's fine.

Lord, f**k off with your crazy-ass babbling. See a shrink and work on your English composition. Your comment is an unreadable mess. You sound like a crazy person. A very angry crazy person. lol

Yeah, I just don't care enough to stick with it. Like I said, "enjoy!"

Oh you poor belittled, neo-fem thing. Someone called out your bullshit and you can't handle it. I'll enjoy having the sandbox all to myself, playing my games, now that you've taken your toys and run crying back to your feminist mommy.

It's telling you answered none of my questions.

Every bad choice, horrible decision, every lie told, if made by a woman, is the fault of a man. Got it.

Do you know what "infantilization" is? Look it up. That's what you're doing to this character.

lol Lame.

I wrote my reply to you in five minutes. I've thoroughly enjoyed the other 1,435 minutes of my Sunday.

It doesn't matter to me how you react to the labels I put on you, they seem to fit quite well. I selected them in response to what YOU wrote; I didn't pull them out of my ass. If you choose to feel "belittled," well that is your choice.

Also, I had no idea this terrible actress was in this film when it started. I've seen one other of hers, and the problem was the same: everything about the movie was great except for her. But going forward, I will definitely avoid anything else she's in. Or do you think it necessary to "meet" actors too, before judging their work?

Enjoy!

I've never dropped one this quickly before either. But I saw and heard enough to know I'm not on board with the premise, which is the center of the plot and isn't going to change. So I'm out.

EXACTLY. That's why Thailand pumps out BLs by the dozen, with little care for quality. They know the little girls will eat up whatever they dish out, if it's a BL. They don't respect the genre they're producing.

You're not being rude at all. "babe," lol

I've watched just about every BL in existence (except those out of Thailand in the last year, which I don't waste time even trying anymore.)
So, I'm pretty good at judging from the start of a show, whether or not I'm going to like it. I don't care for BLs with supernatural or science fiction premises; it just doesn't work for me; comes off as dorky. And it's my understanding from reading about this show that the character seeing the AI images/messages in front of his eyes is going to continue doing so throughout. Just...no.

I get into dramas that take place in the real world, with stories and characters that spring from real-world human emotions/actions/etc. Gimmicks like "oh, I'm inside a virtual game now!) don't work for me.

I speak only for myself. Those of you who love this sort of thing, please, enjoy! But I won't be among your number.

Oh gosh, I guess you told ME! lol

Dropped about 15 minutes in. Story's lame, acting's terrible, direction awful, everyone seems like amateurs. All the bare flesh isn't enough reason to stick around. I don't find these guys all that hot anyway.

Dropped
5/10, all 5 points for the nakedness.

ugh.

Seven minutes into the first episode...dropping. I can't stand this kind of juvenile, Saturday-morning-cartoon-vibe, Thai-style junk. I hate to see this sort of thing coming out of Korea now. Thailand makes 17 of these every week.

Dropped. And anything that can make me drop it in under eight minutes gets the death penalty:
1/10

Wow. So this young woman is not responsible for her decisions and choices and their consequences? It's all HIS fault? And he has to react as her therapist to finding out she's been lying constantly, cheating on him with her ex in his bed, and prostituting herself?

Do you believe a woman is EVER responsible for her choices? It's hilarious you're blaming HIM for her flirting with and fucking her ex. Christ.