You need to understand Asian culture before saying that. Kissing on the lips in Asian culture is not what is done…
He very clearly said he is "proud to be Israeli." That's what he's proud of. It's unfortunate that Hamas' October 7th atrocities led to Israel's attack on Gaza, but Hamas knew exactly what would happen and did it anyway. Hamas also killed 1,200 "innocent people" on October 7th. Are you proud of that?
They were talking about family, as in relation. I don't remember the exact word, but WQ sees ZY as little brother…
Thanks for the extra clarification on what that was all about. However, what Qian is expressing here is just another perhaps even more insidious, form of homophobia.
It's no different than saying "I'm totally OK with an acquaintance marrying a Black person, but it's a problem if my sibling marries a Black person." To me, that's a dead giveaway that the speaker isn't OK with interracial marriage at all. They're just not ready to admit being a bigot.
But what makes this even more interesting, is that I believe Qian is playing dumb. He is fully aware of Yuan's feelings for him and his for Yuan. He's simply not willing to acknowledge any of it yet, so he chooses denial. To him, their mutual attraction is something he sees from the corner or his eye but refuses to look at straight-on.
He's admitted to NEVER having had a girlfriend or even anyone he's interested in, which is highly unlikely were he straight. "I don't have time for that" doesn't cut it as a sufficient or believable reason. And knowing all this in his heart, it's a tad cruel of him to accept Yuan's attentions and lead him on if he intends to never face the truth.
Is this Strongberry/Matchbox? I can't find any reference online, but it sure feels like one of their excellent little shorts. These two guys exchanged and emoted more feels in eight minutes than all Thai BLs from the last two years combined.
You need to understand Asian culture before saying that. Kissing on the lips in Asian culture is not what is done…
Wow, you might be an a*****e. I'm pretty sure you are.
The Palestinians in Gaza ELECTED Hamas to govern them, and all Hamas has done in the last nine years is build tunnels. And you can bet your ass almost all Gazans know where a lot of those tunnels are. But do you hear all these non-Hamas Palestinian Gazans condemning Hamas for bringing this abomination upon them? No, of course not. They're too full of hatred for Jews to ever put the blame where it belongs.
It's hilarious that you think because you've been all over the world you are an expert on all cultures. How arrogant.
You need to understand Asian culture before saying that. Kissing on the lips in Asian culture is not what is done…
I'm from the U.S. I don't know how you went from tongue-kissing to genocide in Gaza, which it's not, but anyway...you're ridiculous. I agree with all your points about Asians smooching but then you went off the rails with the genocide thing.
Ever heard of October 7th and oh, I don't know...1,200 or so civilians that were murdered and tortured by Hamas, which governs Gaza? Hamas brought hell on Earth upon Gaza, and all you want to do is blame the IDF.
Also, do a little research on the meaning of the word "genocide." In almost six months IDF has killed, at most, 30,000 Gazans and that's assuming we believe Hamas' numbers, which we shouldn't. But anyway, at least 10,000 are Hamas fighters, which leaves around 20,000 dead out of 2.3 MILLION people, of 1-2% of the population. If what Israel is doing in Gaza is "genocide," which it's not, it's the least effective genocide in the history of the world. lol
I'm loving this show because there's something about childhood friends blooming into adult lovers that speaks…
I'll be crucified here for saying this, but as I've told you already Maggi, I want to see a well-made BL in which the lovers already know, or figure out later somehow, that they are full-on blood brothers; and none of this half-brother shit either. :) Half the fun would be watching the heads of half of the BL commentariat explode into tiny pieces. :) Because after all, does the concept of "incest" matter if you're not going to have two-headed children as a result of sex?
☝️☝️☝️The entire dialogue of the lake scene, above in spoiler. ☝️☝️☝️So to sum it up.…
Thank you for all that work, Myles. You helped me get a much better grip than I had on what was said in that scene. When Q first made the "family" remark I thought at first he had just figured it all out and was telling Z to back off.
Has anyone ever told you you might be more than a little bit of a b***h? It doesn't get any more passive-aggressive than ending a comment as snotty and condescending as yours with "love and peace."
They were talking about family, as in relation. I don't remember the exact word, but WQ sees ZY as little brother…
So, are you saying Qian FORGOT that Yuan is not his bio-brother? "...not being aware the Yuan is not his real family..." It slipped his mind while fishing that he found Yuan on the street and brought him home? Ummm...no.
Myles and Maggi's theory makes a lot more sense than that does.
Overall, Qian knows and feels a hell of a lot more than he lets on, even to himself. Sometimes it pisses me off a little that, because he now knows, whether or not he admits it and because of San Pang's remarks, that Yuan may be sweet on him, he nevertheless sort of leads him on. He may be playing dumb but we know he's anything but.
The feels onscreen between Qian and Yuan are the definition of "chemistry." I find myself tearing up at the way Yuan looks at Qian. The latter is in extreme denial. The kind of denial where you deny something to yourself even, but you know what you feel and you can't change it, but you're not anywhere near admitting it yet. Sometimes it even feels a bit like he leads Yuan on. Lili is adorbs. San Pang is hot and his baritone voice is slaying me, but the "your future sister-in-law" remark was cruel, given that he knows what's going on. I could have done with some more creative writing rather than the ankle injury/headaches stuff, but this is top-tier stuff otherwise. Acting is excellent across the board. Qian and Yuan are both beautifully understated and real in their characterizations.
Lots of pretty people here, but I find Kurt Huang as Yuan intensely and distinctively, beautiful. That nose and mouth...
Does any story NEED to be told? Isn't it more a matter of someone WANTING to tell a story, and then doing so?Could…
So you're saying the sex scenes went too far and muddied the waters? Your issue is the sex scenes? Lee went into too much "detail?" I disagree that relatively explicit sex scenes necessarily mean the director had "erotic demons" to exorcise. Judging from the sex scenes in this movie, what demons do you feel Ang Lee was exorcising? Do detailed scenes of preparation for a bank robbery indicate a need to exorcise "planning demons?" You use the word "overexpose." How much of the human body can be shown before it is "over" exposed? As for Tang Wei, she knew what she was doing and where she was doing it, namely Puritanical China. As an unknown, it could be argued that her notoriety derived from this film boosted her career after the period of punishment ended. The problem with this film is the sloppy plotting and implausible character behaviors, not the sex scenes.
Why waste ten years and all that planning, and complicated effort? Just kill the bitch immediately upon finding out. But then we'd have no movie. Lame acting from Nakamura Anne, but I wasn't especially impressed with the other three either. Several significant plot holes and unrealistic behavior. No real chemistry between Makato and Yocchi, which took all the air out of their alleged romance.
It's no different than saying "I'm totally OK with an acquaintance marrying a Black person, but it's a problem if my sibling marries a Black person." To me, that's a dead giveaway that the speaker isn't OK with interracial marriage at all. They're just not ready to admit being a bigot.
But what makes this even more interesting, is that I believe Qian is playing dumb. He is fully aware of Yuan's feelings for him and his for Yuan. He's simply not willing to acknowledge any of it yet, so he chooses denial. To him, their mutual attraction is something he sees from the corner or his eye but refuses to look at straight-on.
He's admitted to NEVER having had a girlfriend or even anyone he's interested in, which is highly unlikely were he straight. "I don't have time for that" doesn't cut it as a sufficient or believable reason. And knowing all this in his heart, it's a tad cruel of him to accept Yuan's attentions and lead him on if he intends to never face the truth.
7/10
Bravo
10/10
The Palestinians in Gaza ELECTED Hamas to govern them, and all Hamas has done in the last nine years is build tunnels. And you can bet your ass almost all Gazans know where a lot of those tunnels are. But do you hear all these non-Hamas Palestinian Gazans condemning Hamas for bringing this abomination upon them? No, of course not. They're too full of hatred for Jews to ever put the blame where it belongs.
It's hilarious that you think because you've been all over the world you are an expert on all cultures. How arrogant.
Ever heard of October 7th and oh, I don't know...1,200 or so civilians that were murdered and tortured by Hamas, which governs Gaza? Hamas brought hell on Earth upon Gaza, and all you want to do is blame the IDF.
Also, do a little research on the meaning of the word "genocide." In almost six months IDF has killed, at most, 30,000 Gazans and that's assuming we believe Hamas' numbers, which we shouldn't. But anyway, at least 10,000 are Hamas fighters, which leaves around 20,000 dead out of 2.3 MILLION people, of 1-2% of the population. If what Israel is doing in Gaza is "genocide," which it's not, it's the least effective genocide in the history of the world. lol
Why does it seem that even the speech of the English-speaking actors sounds bad-actorish in Asian films?
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1/10
It doesn't get any more passive-aggressive than ending a comment as snotty and condescending as yours with "love and peace."
Myles and Maggi's theory makes a lot more sense than that does.
Overall, Qian knows and feels a hell of a lot more than he lets on, even to himself. Sometimes it pisses me off a little that, because he now knows, whether or not he admits it and because of San Pang's remarks, that Yuan may be sweet on him, he nevertheless sort of leads him on. He may be playing dumb but we know he's anything but.
Lili is adorbs.
San Pang is hot and his baritone voice is slaying me, but the "your future sister-in-law" remark was cruel, given that he knows what's going on.
I could have done with some more creative writing rather than the ankle injury/headaches stuff, but this is top-tier stuff otherwise. Acting is excellent across the board. Qian and Yuan are both beautifully understated and real in their characterizations.
Lots of pretty people here, but I find Kurt Huang as Yuan intensely and distinctively, beautiful. That nose and mouth...
I disagree that relatively explicit sex scenes necessarily mean the director had "erotic demons" to exorcise. Judging from the sex scenes in this movie, what demons do you feel Ang Lee was exorcising?
Do detailed scenes of preparation for a bank robbery indicate a need to exorcise "planning demons?"
You use the word "overexpose." How much of the human body can be shown before it is "over" exposed?
As for Tang Wei, she knew what she was doing and where she was doing it, namely Puritanical China. As an unknown, it could be argued that her notoriety derived from this film boosted her career after the period of punishment ended.
The problem with this film is the sloppy plotting and implausible character behaviors, not the sex scenes.
Why waste ten years and all that planning, and complicated effort? Just kill the bitch immediately upon finding out. But then we'd have no movie.
Lame acting from Nakamura Anne, but I wasn't especially impressed with the other three either.
Several significant plot holes and unrealistic behavior.
No real chemistry between Makato and Yocchi, which took all the air out of their alleged romance.
6/10