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I LOVE these three films, each one better than the one prior. Not your usual fare. Highly recommend.

9/10

I've looked at five different definitions of Tsundere online. You haven't even been characterizing the term properly. This is the general gist, everywhere I looked:

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Tsundere (ツンデレ, pronounced [t͡sɯ̥ndeɾe]) is a Japanese term for a character development process that depicts a character with an initially harsh personality who gradually reveals a warmer, friendlier side over time.

The word is derived from the terms tsun tsun (ツンツン) (adverb, 'morosely, aloofly, offputtingly')[1][2][3] and dere dere (でれでれ) (adverb, 'in a lovey-dovey or infatuated manner').[4][2][5] Originally found in Japanese bishōjo games,[6] the word is now part of the otaku moe phenomenon,[7] reaching into other media. The term was made popular in the visual novel Kimi ga Nozomu Eien.[8]

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Gosh, you might even notice the words "character development process" in that definition. You've been asserting that Tsunderes very much do NOT develop. WRONG. It's useful to be familiar with terms you throw around as though you know all there is to know about them.

I didn't think this ep was slow or annoying at all, as I clearly stated in an earlier comment.

BTW, why are you watching this? You already know what everyone will do and say. What is the point?

You think it's weird for 14 year-olds to kiss?

it's perfectly legal for 14 year-olds to kiss each other

omg

Why? How? Teenagers kiss? Why do you have a different standard for straight and gay dramas?

Where was there a r18 scene?

omg, you read KinnPorsche? lol

hi there, same other. :)

Among the many things I've learned since becoming a BL/Asian Cinema freak, is that Mangas are FREQUENTLY changed in translation to live-action. I know you disagree about this but I see it often enough to have hope. If the purpose of you live-action adaptation is to senselessly repeat what was already boring in the Manga, then why do it?

Since this thing got an S2 I guess we can suppose someone made money somehow off the dreadful S1, so who knows? But god, it drives me crazy when commenters write "I've read the Manga/Manwha/Whatever, so here is what will definitely happen." Why watch then? ugh.

Remember the Little Girls on the KinnPorsche page constantly yapping about what they were just sure was going to happen next, and they were very often WRONG. I especially enjoyed watching them never get there wish for KP to become the Vegas/Pete show. lol

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBE...Minato's creepy, unattractive teacher/crush sexually assaulted/molested him as a student but Minato has blocked it from his mind. It is this repressed memory that is causing his terror of intimacy! Once it comes to light, the teacher is exposed, and Minato is relieved of his trauma, Shin and Minato will go at it like bunnies.

But what I think will happen before that is Shin will tire of being treated like shit and give up on Minato, which will of course cause Minato to experience the absence of all that Shin brings to his life and go crawling to Shin, who I hope will inform him that he and Asuka are now an item and are banging each other twice a day.

Good God. Sing in Love was dreadful.

My use of the word "threatened" refers to YOU. What about the negative criticisms threatens your enjoyment of the show.? Just watch it and enjoy it. To me, this first ep shows promise, and I'm one that had to force myself to finish S1 just because Minato is cute and Shin is charming.

I would agree with your remark about the BL industry not caring about culture and content, but I would limit that broad a statement to the THAI BL industry, where they don't even TRY anymore, they just pump them out. I continue to see shows out of Korea, Japan and Taiwan that are well-made and thoughtful. If you want a list, let me know. That said, it seems I'm seeing more junk out of those countries of late. I hope they all don't go the way of Thailand.

As my friend Maggi64 and I often discuss, there is a dominant cohort of 13 year-old, SJW, prudish, fluff-lovers among the BL viewership on MDL. And when a show that hits their sweet spot, or their sour spot, they are quick to pounce. These are the morons who think an 11 year age-difference matters between consenting adults, especially when the younger one is the aggressor. Age differences like that are common among straight married people, but the 13 year-olds think it's a new thing, and..."creepy." lol

IGNORE THEM

Actually, I believe the Japanese are still FAR too stingy with kisses and sexual activity, but I don't want to see what I call "mannequin kisses" or "dead fish kisses" or actual sexual activity shoved into a story for its own sake either. I want to see those things flow naturally from a romantic story, which is what a BL is. And I'd like to see them acted naturally and properly when they occur, as in movement of the lips and even tongue. THIS IS WHAT HUMANS DO. It doesn't have to be gross, just sweet or passionate, given the context. If BLs included kissing as it is normally incorporated into straight romances, the 13 year-olds wouldn't be on pins and needles, screaming for one to happen. And by the way, it's a joke how often "NC scenes" are referred to among the BL viewer/commentariat here. The only show I've ever seen a legit "NC" scene in is KinnPorsche, and that was a half-second butt shot. A scene that includes actors "acting" as though they are having sex, or as is much more common, acting as though they are GOING to have sex, is NOT an "NC" scene. There is nothing graphic or explicit about it. Children know sex happens. So do adults. What's with treating it like a big deal in 2023?

Finally, I disagree that we can definitely deduce from S1 what we're going to see in S2, or at least I hope not. I loved the first three eps of S1 and then it went to shit. But in this first episode I see possibilities for growth and some meaty story telling. Meanwhile, I find things like Minato's OTT, slapstick reactions to affection from Shin to be laugh-out-loud funny. Maybe I'm a freak and the only one but for now I love it. He is hilarious.

Ignore the comments of those you think are stupid or thoughtless and scroll past, or like me, take the opportunity to leave smart-ass replies that highlight the stupidity. 😁😁😁

To the fainting couch pearl-clutchers saying a relationship between a 29 year-old and an 18 year-old is inherently creepy: Grow up. Shin is far more emotional developed and mature than Minato. Age is just a random number that can indicate very general aspects of what to expect from an individual, but variations are normal and common. The fact that the 18 year-old here is far more grown-up than the 29 year-old is a key part of the plot in case you hadn't noticed.

I think his reactions are hysterically funny. I appreciate them as slapstick comedy. Which doesn't stop me from believing we might get into some dark shit about WHY Minato is so freaked by physical and verbal expressions of love. I think he's going to have to LOSE Shin to make him confront what it is that holds him back from appreciating the affection of such a beautiful young man.

Read my comments above, Maggi. Your proposed explanation for Minato's behavior is where I think, or hope, this is headed. And there were a couple of moments in which it seemed that what is holding him back is pretty traumatic.

Seriously, how does other people not spewing their bodily fluids all over a show you like ruin your enjoyment of it? How does that threaten you? Do you secretly know the show has problems but don't want to hear it? Then skip comments, block people, whatever. These comment sections are not K-Pop fan sites.

Holy shit, I agree with every word. lol I think, clearly, it's going to take LOSING Shin's affection and attention is going to be the only thing that will possibly snap him into appreciating what he's being given and treasure it. I think Minato has been deeply traumatized; perhaps I'm expecting too much here, but I felt hints of some dark shit behind his fear of physical and verbal expressions of love. Sexual abuse comes to mind first. Something he experienced but never processed and overcame is still haunting him. Am I nuts?

Why so threatened by non-gushing opinions? And I disagree...the purpose of the show, at bottom, is to make money, not just BE a piece of fluff for no reason.