JohnGotti

I'm sorry. But I'm dropping this series. It's wayyyy too disfunctional, even for a Thai BL. To redeem Ming after all he has done and is doing to Joe (and Joe allowing it) is truly a toxic relationship. I'd also be curious to see what's in the novel, because the series is a mess!

When I watched this series before, I really didn't like all the over-the-top tropes, stereotypes, and bullying, all for the sake of the "enemies to lovers" trope story line. I just rewatched two years later in hopes that my opinion on this series had improved (over time). Well, unfortunately, it did not. I disliked the series as much this time as I did previously. I'm not hating on anyone or shaming anyone. But, this series is just NOT good. Yeah, it is funny at times. But, that hilarity is always at the expense of the lgbtq+ character Thi. Hmm! Why is that??? He's portrayed not only as clumsy, inept, scared of his own shadow, but totally weak-willed. I guess that's how the writer of this novel or manga sees lgbtq+ young men who are in college trying to earn a little money by tutoring juvenile delinquents! LOL!!

OMG! Even ALL the female characters have stronger personalities than he does, and he's the lgbtq+ character.

This series had cliche' written all over it from the start of episode one and made a joke out of it through most of the series. I actually thought it would improve as the series progressed, but it didn't! Why was I not surprised!!?? I'm so glad that this series DID NOT have a season 2. That would've been tragic. But, then again, What the Duck the Series (which was equally as awful as this, IMO) had a season 2. So I guess I Will Knock You can also have a season 2. Yeah, good luck with that! LMFAO!!!!

Now, having read your synopsis, I do have a better appreciation for the series. Thanks!

Agreed.

I think Ming is a disgusting POS, too. And, at present, there's nothing in the plot to give any kind of redemption, except for that last scene with Joe. We all know the drill. Ming will be forgiven, Joe will get back with him and all will be well with the world! That's such BS it makes my bald head grow peach fuzz. Just once in these bls, let's see the "wronged/injured" party get some f*cking payback before he takes him back!

Agreed. It is a little annoying. Joe doesn't seem to have a clue of what he's doing or why he's in this other Joe's body. Hopefully, it'll get fleshed out before too long.

Agreed.

Interesting synopsis! I like how you incorporated "all" the various relationships amongst these friends. However, like most posters, I think that the series could pick up the pace just slightly, especially between Phum and Peem. If MDL is right and there's 16 eps., there's still alot of eps. left to cover. Hmmm?

Thanks! I actually got ur point, too. LOL!

Good point! But I wasn't really talking about "right" vs "wrong." I was actually about the "wrongs" that are done to the main character in the novel.

This is why I now avoid reading the book before watching the bl series. I keep having hope that the producers and writers might "correct" some of the wrongs done in the book. Yeah! Let the victim exact a little payback! Yeah! Let the villain receive a litte justice BEFORE the inevitable redemption! That's all I'm saying!

Yeah!

Yes, I'm going to say it. There is NO F*CKING WAY any of what happened in this ep was ok! Yes, it's drama. Yes, it's fiction. And, yes, many may like this kind of portrayal of a BL relationship. But that is b*llsh*t and as @Niki Demonix stated, "No sympathy for Ming!!!!"

After about (5) years, I rewatched UWMA, and I have the same opinion today as I had then. Although this series tends to be a little overdramatic for a typical BL, it still is a classic, IMO. There's drama (boy is there drama), intrigue, and an angst to see how it all turns out. And, that scene in the beginning is a "killer" to start the series off. Finally ep. 17 has the ability to bring all of that emotion and tears right out of you (if you have any kind of heart). I still say 8.2 is NOT enough of a score to really tell you how good this series actually is. But again, it's just one person's opinion. Happy Viewing! LMFAO!

Agreed!

I would agree on some of what you stated, such as the characters are mature. I'm not sure about the likeable part. I'm also not sure about the smutty nonsense part. However, you do make some valid points (especially the asexual part). As for the cliche lgbtq+ roles, that is as old as BLs. In the lgbtq+ community there are a host of "identities" the community has. But, in mostly Thai BLs, they tend to stick with the top/bottom, dom/sub, hubby/wifey roles, especially for males, placing men in classic roles similar to a male/female relationship. Although there are many lgbtq+ couples who "choose" that type of relationship, there are far far far more couples in the lgbtq+ that do NOT. I speak from personal experience. The cliche is that that is the "norm" in male couples and not one of many choices within the community. That's what I mean.

P.S. Like the "too much vanilla" coment made. What was up with that????

Unfortunately, there is nothing unique about this BL. It has cliche characters, a cliche plot, cliche BL tropes and cliche lgbtq+ roles. The only thing saving this series is the chemistry of the mains, as well as the seconday couple. Although, it doesn't hurt that the cast are all good "eye-candy" and occasionally humorous. LMFAO!

This series is really pissing me off! Up is playing the character of Ming too well. He's a despicable individual. Poom, portraying the lovesick puppy is ok too. This series is truly a lakorn! I kinda like that we're getting a little background story. But, IDK, something is off about this series and I can't put my finger on it. Oh well, I guess I just have to wait, and wait, and wait, and wait to see what happens next. Hint, hint, hint! LOL!

Wow. That's actually a tough question. Yes, there are many character driven BLs out there (that aren't HS or uni BLs). Some are good, some are not so good. Whether you'll think that they're good or not will be up to you. Also, Japanese/Korean/Taiwanese BLs, IMO, tend to be much more character and plot driven than Thai/Vietnamese/Filipino BLs. So, check out this site on info of most of the BLs in the past few years:

https://world-of-bl.com/

Really??!! I didn't know that! Thanks for the info. Now, it makes sense to me.