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Yeah, although a lot of people seem to be judging the drama only for the crime or the romance part, this drama portrayed 2 very important issues of the society we live in - the struggles of people with disabilities and their family members and how apathy seems to be a real issue. There have been several cases where the lack of action from bystanders caused someone to get hurt or even die. I think this drama taught some really important lessons.

I personally felt moved by a lot of characters. It’s not that I did not feel sympathy for Ma Ri, but with so many characters with bigger problems, hers seemed less important. I actually understand her feelings since I never got any sort of acceptance or recognition from my father even tho I was always the top student in my class since grade school. But I stopped looking for his acceptance as I grew up because I realised he was the same way with my sister, he just doesnt care at all. Even with our mother he is like that. He never took us to the hospital when we got sick or visited when both my mother and sister were admitted there. He is the definition of apathy. So I can relate to Ma Ri in some way, although at least you can tell her mother loves her and just didnt show it in a way that was clear to her.

Yeah. Although he acted like Ma Ri, his reasoning for that was that he knew if he got hurt or even died, his mother would have no one to take care of her. So he started to avoid anything that would put him in risk and that made him temporarily apathetic. Yoo Ryung made the true him come out again and follow his conscience and detective instincts instead of the protocols.

Yup, I loved it too when he did that. Even the second male lead did not know how to react and everyone else was blaming her and he was the only one who understood her. It was one of the nicest things I have seen a male lead do for the female lead.

Thank you. ^^
The male lead himself also had some character development, mostly because of her. He was always playing safe and forgetting it was not only about following protocols and orders. In a way he was like a male version of Ma Ri, which I believe was the only reason they ever dated, because they were very similar in the way they treated cases and life in general. Then the female lead came along and completely changed his world, for the better. Yet people treat her like she was only a source of trouble for him.

You’re welcome! I went back because I was also curious. That scene was shown like in 3 separate perspectives in the same episode. The first is the subway ghost’s perspective, then it is what the security camera recording (the part that we are shown) and the 3rd time is when the female lead’s friend is telling her what happened that day. So it is hard to reach any conclusion. We were never shown things from Yoo Jin’s perspective. The first perspective is biased since it is a serial killer who lost his daughter’s perspective, the second is a recording and the third is from someone who was not even there during the event. Showing Yoo Jin’s perspective would have shed some light on what really happened.

Exactly. She put herself aside so many times to help other people. So many were helped by her. If she was as selfish as people are making her, she would have only cared about her sister’s case and not put herself in danger to help people she did not even know. Yes, she had many flaws, but that is because she is human. I think people are so used to the typical kdrama plot where the female lead is kind and selfless and does not hurt a fly and the male lead is perfect in every aspect, that they forget how real people are flawed, they are not perfect. I cried several times while watching this drama and most of them were because I could feel the female lead’s pain.

There is a reason why the male lead fell in love with her despite her being so reckless. She was full of empathy which was one of the things most characters lacked and so do people in real life. In fact, if more people were like the female lead, someone would have stopped that mentally ill man from pushing anyone. I can almost see Yoo Ryung in that situation. She would be like grabbing him by his wrist and pushing him down to the floor before the little girl even had the chance to take 2 steps back. And no one would have died.

Ok, I went back and re-watched it and she was there first. Then the girl came and was standing with her back towards the tracks. The killer came and after kind of messing with a few people targeted the little girl. She got scared, dropped her lollipop and slowly started to step back. Yoo Jin noticed the killer’s strange behaviour and instead of avoiding him like everyone else there she looked right at him in the eyes. That triggered him and made him change his target from the little girl to Yoo Jin and push her. I dont think she intended to protect the little girl. She probably stared at him because with her disability she might have not seen that act of staring as a threat to her safety. But to someone mentally ill staring could be seen as a threat which explains why he pushed Yoo Jin.

Dont worry, I did not think you sounded angry. XD
I am not sure if she was standing there before or after the girl arrived, but she was there before the killer got closer, so I am not sure. I could tell she felt he was a threat but I have no idea if she was intending to protect the girl. I would have to re-watch that scene to be sure.

Ok, thank you. When you finish watching let me know if the female lead has a proper ending.

I think people hating on the female lead and/or the drama completely missed the point of watching it. More than a crime drama, this drama was about real people and their struggles. You cannot watch this drama using only logic. You also have to use your heart to understand why the characters do certain things, especially the female lead. You really cant use logic to understand her, you have to use empathy. You have to put yourself in her shoes, imagine that was your disabled twin sister that disappeared for years, you dont know if she is even alive and the police completely dismissed you and your pain. Would your first worry be to follow protocols and orders and make sure your actions do not cause your colleagues problems? I am not saying the female lead was right in what she did. But judging her character just based on the consequences of her actions and not on what she was going through or on how many people she helped along the way is just not fair to her character or the drama.

Totally agree, people who are hating so much on her are either insensible or have never suffered or met someone who suffered injustice. Although I personally would act smarter and less reckless than her, I would have made the same decision as the female lead. The police failed her, her sister has a disability making her an easier target, she had to go years without even knowing if her sister was alive, I would be desperate too, protocols and orders would be the least of my worries. And even with all that baggage, she still took time to help other victims and families. As a human being I cant hate her character or this drama that taught so many important lessons and touched on so many serious and realistic issues.

Me too. It would have made a very interesting plot twist. I initially though he got close to the female lead because 1-she looked like his first victim and 2-because she was getting closer to the truth. I only discarded that idea completely like 4 episodes before the ending. XD
This is what happens when you watch way too many crime dramas and series, you dont trust anyone, even the handsome and kind second male lead. ^ ^

I think she was already standing there when the killer showed up. But there is definitely no doubt that she never intended to push the girl. She was falling so it was a reflex to grab whatever was closer. If she had grabbed a different part of the dress the girl might have fallen on top of her instead. Sadly she grabbed the collar, which was a smaller piece of the dress that could not stand the little girl’s weight and ended up ripping. You might have felt that way because of her reaction to the killer getting closer, I guess she could sense he was dangerous.

I understand what you’re saying and I think both her mother and male lead failed her, but that does not change the fact that she treated her job, a job that involves people going through painful events, as if it was some desk work. Yes, she followed protocols, but she failed to connect as a human being, making her fail as a police too. She ignored the family member of a possible murder victim, she completely dismissed any tips or suggestions that she did not believe or agree with - like how the subway ghost could be using the tunnels; she failed to connect with and treat respectfully the rape victims, and she did let her emotions affect her job in some situations, although she tried to disguise it as following protocols or doing what is best for the cases. Most of the time she gave off the vibe that she just wanted to get it over with, find the culprits and close the cases. In real life that is one of the main reasons police sometimes ignore victims or lock up innocents, cause they just want to get it over with, close the case and get recognition for their well done job.
And although I agree the female lead was pretty reckless and overlooked protocols and orders, she pretty much cracked the case open and helped several other people along the way. As a fellow human being I feel more sympathetic towards her than Ma Ri. If I was on the victims side I would rather have the reckless police working on the case.
But like I said, I understand why you personally would feel that way about her. Her mother really messed up and so did the male lead.

Exactly. That is how I felt. Although this drama was not perfect, no drama is in fact, it taught some important lessons and I was able to connect with the characters. I smiled, laughed, got angry and cried while watching it. Definitely not a plot to watch lightly since there were so many serious and realistic issues portrayed.

Obviously there were some flaws, and as usual the first half was more interesting than the second since the mystery slowly started disappearing. But it was still interesting to watch and I could connect to the characters, be it the victims, the police, and in some cases, even the perpetrators. I smiled, laughed, got angry and cried together with them. Although I mostly watch dramas for the romance, I liked that it wasn't the focus here or the story itself and cases would have suffered with that, making it just an average romance drama. It was refreshing to see a drama about the subway/metro police specifically. I did not even know that was a thing. XD
I liked how the drama taught some important lessons and showed how actions or lack of them can create a snowball of events that could impact the lives of a lot of people. I was also touched by the way people with disabilities and their families were portrayed.

At the end of the day, although not perfect, it was still a drama I enjoyed. 8/10

I liked it until they left the island, then everything started to fall apart. There is no doubt the female lead was not the typical female lead. She was greedy and selfish, but deep down she was not a bad person. In fact, I can count on my fingers how many people were honestly good and not just pretending, I can count with the fingers of one hand, cause it definitely was less than 5. Neither of the female leads deserved to be with the male lead, he was too good for them. Part of me wanted him to fall in love with the chubby servant. She treated him with the sincerity he deserved. Just my thoughts, but I knew the chances of that happening were almost non-existent.
I liked the ending, but only the last few minutes, everything else felt forced and rushed, unnecessary and cliché.

Why? I have only seen a few of her dramas and I dont consider her either a good actress nor a bad actress. I am not judging you, I am just wondering what you dont like about this particular actress. I also have 1 or 2 chinese actresses that have stopped me from watching some dramas, but their acting is really bad, they are expressionless.

I had this one on hold for a few months before I finally had the courage to started watching. I knew it would be one of those dramas that would hurt to watch. I was right. Over half of the drama was made out of the main leads suffering and was painful to watch. I have seen so many lakorns with similar plots and it never gets easier to swallow. I definitely do not agree with the way it ended when it comes to the female lead’s father. And after so much hurt, that ending was not enough to heal anyone, including myself.

Thanks for the info. So is the cheating already a fact or is it still to be confirmed but looking a lot like it?