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Actually Marie Antoinette wasn’t such a bad queen of France. She never said let them eat cake that was attributed to her wrongly.
I know that Marie Antoinette has nothing to do with this drama but wanted to clarify that she wasn’t wouldn’t have insisted that lychees be brought hundreds of miles for her as Noble Consort Yang did.

I am rewatching this drama cause I don’t have another drama that I am interested in watching at the moment. I am just thinking about how funny it was was that Wei Shiao gave Xiao Qiao 500 war horses to thank her. It just reminds me of a husband giving a wife a top of the line vacuum cleaner. It’s a very practical gift and is useful , but not romantic. Ha! Her reaction was great and he was so oblivious.

Exactly! Da Qiao gave a very human response. How many of us can willingly think of the bigger picture and sacrifice our loved ones for the greater good. We might all say that we will do it but when it comes down to it it’s hard to make that self sacrifice. She was also pregnant. Not to say pregnant people are selfish and cowardly but there are different things that woman consider when one is pregnant.

I can totally understand Da Qiao’s stance and am sad that she got so much hate. She should have asked her husband’s opinion though. But she was too worried and feared for his life if he knew. Again, being pregnant can sometimes cloud one’s judgement.

The FL is by no means perfect. She does make mistakes but she owes up to them and tries to rectify them. This dramas is actually better written than some other cdramas.

Again context matters, don’t just watch a clip and assume that is what happens.
I am rewatching this drama myself as I haven’t found another one that catches my interest.

She slapped him for a reason. He basically tricked her to get the seal of city from her. He then kicked her out of the city. When he heard that she was with her cousin he immediately believed that she willingly left with her cousin. He then put out a kill on sight order for her. For all of these reasons alone her slapping him was justified.
He does squeeze/choke her neck in a later episodes when he things that he tried to open his box. So in that instance he is disrespecting her by getting physical and abusive with her when he lost his temper.

I looked forward waking up to new episodes from this drama now I don’t know what to watch. Have to rewatch something else now. Hoping for a new drama that I can get into like this one drops soon.

In book she paid alot for a golden mask to cover up her mutilated nose. It didn’t heal well and was black.

She still plans to seduce more men so she is going to get the beat mask that she can.

Yes I interpreted it him waiting to paint a goddess, who is unattainable anyways.
I like this depictions of his feelings for her better. In the drama it’s her kindness and belief in his innocence that moved him.

In the book he just lusted after her beauty.

The grand princess was a flawed mother. She indulged her daughter’s every whim and cleaned up her messes. She never had Ming Yue face the consequences for her actions until the end. She spoiled Ming Yue and made her feel like she was superior to others and other people’s lives didn’t matter. Ming Yue probably learned by example and followed her mother’s lead to take things that didn’t belong to her or force someone to marry her just because she can.
So even though she “loved” her daughter but she didn’t teach her daughter well. And being spoiled Ming Yue wasn’t the best either. She was very entitled and used her position to threaten people and she learned this from her mother’s over indulgence. So sadly I feel that the grand princess’ love wasn’t the right type of love. It is hard so hard to be a parent and at times parents needs to show their kids tough love and tell their parents no and not to indulge them in everything thus not raising them to be spoiled brats. It’s important to teach kids to be grateful and how to be kind. Sadly no one probably showed the grand princess that kind of love so she didn’t know how to love her daughter correctly.

Wang Xinyue has a gravities about him that belittles his age. He can act older if he wants too and his voice is really great, especially in the Double. It is surprising that he is so young.

In the Double which was also kind of set in during the Song dynasty the girls go through a hair pinning ceremony. So once a girl reaches marital age they get their hair pinned up. I didn’t really see it shown in other dramas or I don’t remember seeing it, so maybe it was just a Song dynasty thing or for that particular drama. So maybe if that hair pinning ceremony is accurate than that is why the third lady pinned her hair up .

Maybe when she first went into the city she hasn’t had her ceremony yet, and she pinned her hair up when her mother was trying to find a husband for her.

During the Ming dynasty unmarried girls had their hair down but once they were married their hair was pinned up.

Oh another comment I want to add. I used to think that the mom in Pride and Prejudice, Mrs. Bennet was annoying. Well her portrayal in the 1995 miniseries with Colin Firth was annoying. But being a mother myself and understanding the pressure she was under to marry off her daughters I have a better understanding of her. The Li matriarch was the same way. At least Mrs. Bennet had a husband still and no one was coming to steal their property in a yearly basis.

She also had to change and become more aggressive in order for her and her daughters to survive. You can see in the episode where the 2nd son in law told the ML the Li family back story how the Li male relatives would come during the holidays and take things from them. She had to become stronger for her daughters. And maybe she had always had the traits that you found annoying but they were amplified because of her circumstances. She had to become the business lady. She couldn’t send her unmarried daughters out into the forefront to get customers she had to do it herself.


And like the FL said the Li daughters never stole, cheat, or did anything truly underhanded to get where they are. They had to survive in a society that wasn’t easy for them. The mom also encouraged and gave the 2nd son in law some advice and encouraged her daughters to be good wives, etc. She wasn’t perfect but she did raise 5 +1 daughters that were all great so that it really saying something.

Honestly, I agree with you. But SYR is a good friend and he could see that Shouhua still loved DYX, so he did the noble thing and let her go.

SYR did let her go at the end. He was like he will be coming soon. I believe SYR wanted Shouhua to send him on his way. I felt that he would’ve been a good match for her too. But they are both so serious so DYX probably is better for her to balance their personalities out.

Actually during the Song dynasty women did run businesses.

Found this article that states this. https://www.oerproject.com/OER-Materials/OER-Media/HTML-Articles/Origins/Unit5/Women-in-the-Song-Dynasty-of-China/790L
I also remember watching a YouTube video when I watched A Dream of Splendor, which was also set during the Song dynasty, that women were involved in businesses during that dynasty.

Wealthy men probably had concubines as status symbols, but usually men can’t have an official concubine before having an official wife first. The official wife had to welcome or agree to the husband having a concubine and the concubine had to serve
the serve the official wife tea first. The man can have maids but they weren’t given status.

This drama was set during the Song dynasty and operates within that time period realistically.

Would a wealthy man have married a lady from such a family? Perhaps not, but Mr. darcy didn’t have to marry Elizabeth either. The ML wanted to marry the FL because he likes her just like Mr. Darcy proposed to Elizabeth because he likes her.

I didn’t like the ML in Story of kunnng palace. He was much too aggressive , violent and toxic for me. I did like the drama though but he wasn’t my cup of tea.

I see this drama as a slice of life drama were the mom tries really hard to make a living and to marry off her many daughters. So far I am enjoying it.

And to give dowries away to her 5 daughters. It’s very much like Pride and prejudice with the girls’ situations.

I had read somewhere that Pope Clement was sympathetic towards Henry , but ultimately didn’t grant him one. I could be wrong about the Pope’s sympathies , as I can’t remember the source. Ultimately Henry 8 treated all of his wives horribly.

I know that annulment is not Catholic divorce and that Henry requested a dispensation from the Pope to marry her in the first place.

Polygamy is wrong and the Catholic Church does not allow it. Polygamy was not legal as it was in China . Many kings of Europe had mistresses, though. Henry VIII had Henry Fitzroy made his illegitimate son Duke of Richmond. Henry 8 didn’t chop off the heads of all of his wives. His wives fates were as follows, divorced(demoted to Princess of wales), beheaded, died after childbirth , divorced and demoted to Princess, beheaded, survived his death.

I doubt Henry’s dead queens would have preferred to let Henry have concubines. Catherine of Aragon, was a devote Catholic and Anne Boleyn and Catherine Parr were devote Protestants. He made wives of his mistresses so I would have doubted that his wives wanted to lose their position. Anne Boleyn was called a concubine by the Spanish ambassador.

The polygamy system in China was horrible to woman. Concubines were considered glorified slaves who had to serve the legitimate wife, can have their children taken away to be raised by others, their children cannot call them mothers. They can be sold off and beaten, etc. also, concubines are only prominent in wealthier families as a status symbol and tools to add heirs to the family. It was better for the woman to be a poor man’s wife than a rich man’s concubine.