Ep16 I am still having a good time! Why take this too seriously? It is only a short form Qing era story, it doesnt have to be great literature. A friend calls it neo-gothic. Love that about it too.
I like the FL, she reminds me of a scrappy friend of mine, a lovely wild flower who can stand up to the strongest wind. I think the General has bedroom eyes and keeps nicely offering to help make a baby, what's not to like?
True comedy surprises and opens your eyes. This one has a MAMMOGRAM!!! I laughed and laughed!!!
A true Zhang Qing Jie project, this drama just goes a little bit beyond, while still fitting perfectly into its particular genre. Not ironic not self-deprecating but somehow wickedly cheerful about its very existence.
Thank you Lily Alice for this article. It could have been shorter, and I dont endorse repeating everything just any celebrity says. Also I am no fan of Jackson's work, just of him as a thoughtful intelligent person out there. He said some really good things in this interview that made even me, an elderly woman with completely different life experiences, think positively and review what I have been through.
But most importantly we are seeing a real push by China to export cultural products that goes beyond the more stuffy usual. I think its good, I think it affects the production of Cdrama and even if JW seems a little far afield I think he shines a positive light on the process. It is important to separate out creators from the state processes which may support them or create obstacles for them. I feel as if my responsibility as a consumer is to look at the art from the point of appreciation, part of which is keeping a perspective both on the limitations artists use with such creative ingenuity in the East, and the more usual aesthetic considerations.
I have finally started watching this, am at ep21. Chen Kun is the hottest thing ever. How can that man have been 45? He is also a brilliant actor, and it looks like he got stuck in action films after this?
Anyway, the take on palace intrigue as endless skirmishing which crushes the soul is one of the ways I can relate it back to Zou Yue's s cripts, like POJ.
It’s true for any cdrama. How can non Chinese person fully grasp it although they can still enjoy what they…
I realized I was going to be missing half the script for a Cdrama ever after when I watched Joy of Life 1 a year or two back. You can literally see the actors delivering good punch ;lines and waiting that millisecond for it to hit. It makes me feel like I am 6 again, trailing around after the grown-ups trying to guess their jokes.But it is still fun -- as long as the subtitles give us something silly to laugh at. In LBFAD the Demon King just keeps saying 'whatever' and it had me rolling in the aisles.
Why did Wei Yan received death penalty while Li Jing (grand tutor) who committed treason was not punished?
I think about it as total human suffering plus personal karma: Wei Yan's totals include all retainers associated with the tiger tally, the Jizhou massacre itself which includes the death of the Crown Prince, his treatment of family, including bringing up the ML without love to be his weapon, then we have his affair with a royal concubine. The Old Emperor was a bad guy, so was WY trapped? Maybe. But should he get another chance? Only for the sake of the family he despised....BUT he was sexy, focused, extremely powerful and manipulative, a mensch in this life. He got a death without humiliation. Li Jing was an autocratic creep too, but his sins were arrogance, pride, stupidity (he backed the wrong person for the job) and treason. His punishment was to have the position he cared for so much taken away, much crueller than death.
My feeling is that the show had its own standards -- loyalty to the state was way down on the list of values. Protecting the inoocent was very high. Sincerity in love was very high.
The largescale slaughters -- Lin'An, JiZhou were counted precisely in terms of lives. The Imperial Family were small potatoes, their world a perverted one.
I mean, yeah. Not a fan of the masculinity comment because WTF is that supposed to mean? Like, this isn’t a…
The movement of lips could have something to do with the expectation of dubbing, even self-dubbing, in China.
But I would be careful about criticizing how people move their lips in different languages.
The fact that some westerners show their tongues while talking is considered gross in plenty of places, so different expectations of manners make a difference.
Aesthetic standards around sounds in different languages also play a part.
And there is an interplay between emphatic stress and tones which may prevent or make unnecessary larger movements of lips.
aren't you being too sensitive? it's about the whole industry not just that specific guy...
Yes, you are right. And certainly it is weird that make-up for lead actors in k and cdrama is so heavy. Women too. It wipes out some micro-expression skills, I am sure.
It mystifies me, after we had a TV/fiulm stage-make-up revolution in the US a few years back. Products were finally created or used which looked beautiful on different skin tones and shades. Surely there are more translucent foundations available in Asia as well. Why arent they used?
I have said this elsewhere but I have a weird feeling that IQiyi only gave Netflix a limited license to simulcast POJ in a few countries in order to prepare for a big expansion of their subscription service over seas. In other words they used Netflix as free advertising. Wait and see if they make some promotional price available in Europe all of a sudden.
"It further adds a new dimension to the deep integration of Eastern aesthetics with the European public's preferences." A late breakthrough in Euro-appreciation of the technical skill involved in C-and-kdrmas nowadays. Now lets see if the numbers pick up in Europe for asian dramas, to match Latin America's at least.
As viewers will we have the right to know if AI is used and for what? Similiar to warning labels or labels listing the abiding by safety rules? If this really goes pearshaped, how will we find authentic content?
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I am still having a good time! Why take this too seriously? It is only a short form Qing era story, it doesnt have to be great literature. A friend calls it neo-gothic. Love that about it too.
I like the FL, she reminds me of a scrappy friend of mine, a lovely wild flower who can stand up to the strongest wind. I think the General has bedroom eyes and keeps nicely offering to help make a baby, what's not to like?
A true Zhang Qing Jie project, this drama just goes a little bit beyond, while still fitting perfectly into its particular genre. Not ironic not self-deprecating but somehow wickedly cheerful about its very existence.
He said some really good things in this interview that made even me, an elderly woman with completely different life experiences, think positively and review what I have been through.
But most importantly we are seeing a real push by China to export cultural products that goes beyond the more stuffy usual. I think its good, I think it affects the production of Cdrama and even if JW seems a little far afield I think he shines a positive light on the process. It is important to separate out creators from the state processes which may support them or create obstacles for them.
I feel as if my responsibility as a consumer is to look at the art from the point of appreciation, part of which is keeping a perspective both on the limitations artists use with such creative ingenuity in the East, and the more usual aesthetic considerations.
So I think you made a good choice with this one.
Anyway, the take on palace intrigue as endless skirmishing which crushes the soul is one of the ways I can relate it back to Zou Yue's s cripts, like POJ.
Li Jing was an autocratic creep too, but his sins were arrogance, pride, stupidity (he backed the wrong person for the job) and treason. His punishment was to have the position he cared for so much taken away, much crueller than death.
My feeling is that the show had its own standards -- loyalty to the state was way down on the list of values. Protecting the inoocent was very high. Sincerity in love was very high.
The largescale slaughters -- Lin'An, JiZhou were counted precisely in terms of lives. The Imperial Family were small potatoes, their world a perverted one.
But I would be careful about criticizing how people move their lips in different languages.
The fact that some westerners show their tongues while talking is considered gross in plenty of places, so different expectations of manners make a difference.
Aesthetic standards around sounds in different languages also play a part.
And there is an interplay between emphatic stress and tones which may prevent or make unnecessary larger movements of lips.
It mystifies me, after we had a TV/fiulm stage-make-up revolution in the US a few years back. Products were finally created or used which looked beautiful on different skin tones and shades. Surely there are more translucent foundations available in Asia as well. Why arent they used?
A late breakthrough in Euro-appreciation of the technical skill involved in C-and-kdrmas nowadays.
Now lets see if the numbers pick up in Europe for asian dramas, to match Latin America's at least.
I have a strong intuition that the limited release iqiyi gave to Netflix was designed to boost a push by Iqiyi to expand into overseas markets.
They used netflix for free advertising.
In chinese does Iqiyi even post real numbers for views etc? Inside mainland china only or for outside regions?
Are the 'reservations' ahead of time meaningful?
Can anybody out there with some expertise summarize where to find reliable numbers? BUT NOT 'BUZZ' NUMBERS!
If this really goes pearshaped, how will we find authentic content?