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I wasn't trying to be condescending. I'm sorry that I misread your previous comment. I read it wrong as you saying the people who are upset by it and not you talking about the situation.

Getting someone drunk in order to trick them into sex because they wouldn't do it sober isnt questionable? And then the brother crying because his brother manipulated him and purposely got him drunk to have sex makes me sex negative? If we were talking about consensual non-consent it would be different but we aren't.

It was updated. It looks like 15 episodes with each couple getting 2 episodes and then maybe an ending episode with all of them?

I feel like doing a 2 hour window is so weird. It's going to encourage pirating. Why would they chose to do that? I mean I was lucky to be able to watch the live stream, but that's just nuts.

Yeah. I feel like this is a show you just gotta kinda go with the flow or you'll go mad. haha

I dont understand why you are being so combative. I'm basing it on the comments on the shows socials. You don't have resort to calling people "dim witted horse shit" Like what? It's clear there was a major consent issue, whether that bothers you or not is up to you.

Alright. I watched the official livestream of the first episode. I just wanna remind everyone that each couple gets 2 episodes so it moves FAST. Like... FAST.. It's kinda ridiculous but I was laughing almost the whole time b/c at times it was just like huh what?

Thank you so much!!

I was speaking generally and I think it's pretty clear the majority of the international fans were bothered, which of course means some weren't...

After watching the first episode I think I kinda get the synopsis now... well for the most part at least.

Ohh I liked that. Pretty good first episode.. looks like they will be tackling some serious issues. First scene was a nice little emotion hit to the gut.

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I'm watching Lovely Writer too and it's like SUCH a contrast to this. (I was actually really enjoying this.. but the consent issue is making me feel conflicted now). I just want Gene to say "THIS IS SEXUAL HARASSMENT" while watching History4

hahaha what a turn your comments have made

It's so crazy because I read a comment saying that the international fans and the Taiwanese and Chinese fans are reacting completely different! The Taiwanese and Chinese fans think it was hot and aren't bothered and the international fans are like what?! are you kidding... So that's interesting..

but it's like an obsession in some of these shows

yeah I agree with this.. Shi De is just not connecting it in his brain. I think they might talk about his half brother and then realize that the girl (whom he is like wtf.. what girl.. I'm so confused) that everyone keeps mentioning is actually his step sister and be like whoa whoa whoa wait.

As someone who was really enjoying it.. that was a major issue for me too. I know I can personally overlook things in fiction that I would NEVER overlook in real life. My worry is if consent keeps getting treated this way... it will condition people more and more to think that type of behavior is okay or excusable...

I don't think people are upset there is someone who enjoys bls as a character.. it's "who's the top and who's the bottom" (which I actually find annoying with people obsess about who's the top and bottom in fiction.. because what? it's always stereotypes and the bottom is always the weak feminine character.. hate that), let me take weird invasive photos and keep them on my phone.. it just too extreme for someone to do to real life people. So it just pushes the negative stereotype that women who like bl are out of touch with reality and fetishize gay relationships.

And I'm saying this as someone who is enjoying the show.

The consent issue really kinda made me conflicted. I was really enjoying this show (and I won't drop it, but I mean I'm not gonna blame people who do). Because it's fiction we get to actually see into people's minds (we can analyze that Xing Si never seemed to push Yong Jie away until he realizes he's relishing the touch too much etc) , but in real life what happened would be completely 100 percent wrong... we dont have that ability in real life to see into people's minds. It just worries me because if the media keeps portraying consent that way it will continue to condition people to think this type of behavior isn't that bad and apply that to real world situations.

I'm in two minds now. I've been really enjoying it, but the major consent issue kinda killed my enjoyment. I know I personally can separate something happening in fiction and getting past some issues and reality where it would be COMPLETELY insanely unforgivable. But at the same time if people only see consent treated this way it can slightly condition them to see it that way in real life... which kinda worries me (not just in bls but in straight media too).