Where did you watch it till the end? Viki only has 21 episodes.
I have two different ones. Anyway, I found most of the episodes on Bilbili.tv and on dailymotion. Unfortunately on dailymotion episodes 27 and 28 have been removed last night. I finally found all of them on kisskh.do
Where did you watch it till the end? Viki only has 21 episodes.
Went there and there is a casino pop-up every time, then it asks me to scan something with my phone. No way I'm doing that. Instead, I found it on bilibili.tv.
Frankly, the breakup was enough to hate him, the way it was done. Even if there were no other reason at all apart from that. But for that she forgave him too easily.
i 100% agree!! she is very money paranoid and at first it was understandable but then when she asked to pay gas…
You're again saying the same exact thing and proving my point. If she doesn't earn money and doesn't pay the rent or contribute to expenses in any way, then she's a kept woman. Yes, you didn't mention house work, but if she has any conscience, of course she will do her best to contribute in other ways in exchange for the man's contribution, i.e. doing the housework. But if she does nothing but provide him sex, how is she different than a prostitute?
i 100% agree!! she is very money paranoid and at first it was understandable but then when she asked to pay gas…
Which century do you come from? "He is a man, men love to go out earn and spend on their loved ones"? What you just wrote could have said by my grandparents. When the man worked outside the house and brought the money while the woman stayed in the house cooking and cleaning and taking care of the kids, and be adoringly thankful if he brought her a present. Women also love earning money and spending on their loved ones.
The speech here looks pretty believable but you people rlly need to see the actual press conference. It's just…
I found it better than the ones usually written by someone from the agency, as is usually the case, LOL. A bit repetitive, but that tends to be a problem with AI.
it has tarnished his image forever...but he is to blame. Should have spoken the truth about dating the first time…
He tried to hide it because of toxic fans that want to dream that their oppa is only in love with his fanclub and has no private life. Why don't Western actors hide their relationships?
And I’m convinced at this point that the big budget comes from the government trying to increase birth rates…
I don't think she took criticism personally. She was just trying to offer a different perspective, as she saw and felt the drama. Speaking generally here, not only about this drama, but also of others that narrate stories from those eras... While watching a drama we have to take into account the historical times, the context. We cannot project our own modern situation. Korea after the war was in a really dire state of poverty. It's not a question of "poverty is fine". Poverty was there anyway, for the great majority of people. Those who had a strong family support system fared better than others who navigated the cruel world alone. Not "fine", but "better". Although this is a Korean story, even European countries after the two World Wars were in a very bad situation as well. Many had lost their homes and their breadwinners, factories and offices had been bombed, even if you were a skilled professional or artisan people didn't have the money to pay you, Ruins all around and people went hungry. Maybe the only way Americans can relate to it somehow is by thinking of the Great Depression. And yes, of course, the position of women back then was much much worse than it is today. Even if you read Jane Austen's novels, you will see that those who didn't marry, even if they were educated, had a very bleak future. And this persisted, in various degrees, for much of the 20th century. Korea, China and Japan are, together with India and with the Muslim countries, some of the places where women are still second-tier citizens. Many Korean young women are rebelling, but others have internalized the dictates of patriarchy in a way that they seem "the normal thing to do" and they support it staunchly. In fact all of us foreigners who love Korean dramas, feel conflicted when we see what Korea is really like. I also speak for myself. There are many things I love about this country/culture but there are also many things I hate. I would never raise a daughter there.
In the middle of ep.4 I was already tired. The same old tropes, like painting by numbers. The plain-looking, bubbly, impulsive and warm-hearted female lead who forgives so easily and misunderstands so easily. The seemingly cold male lead, the nice second male lead, the evil executives, the bully colleagues... So boring, OMG. I feel I have already watched a number of dramas just like this. Plus a great number of things that are hard to believe and illogical. People in the Viki timed comments were calling them out all the time. How did he know she was there? How this happened? Why does she do this since it would have been much easier and more natural to do that? Absurd things to bring the plot that the writers want but were so contrived. I meant to drop the show, but there was something in the female lead that kept drawing me in. Zang Chun Xuan is a very expressive actress. Yes, she sometimes overdoes the pouting/cute thig, but she's good in the dramatic parts too, and there's never a boring moment with her. At the end, you fall under her charm. Yes, the drama is super cliché and old-fashioned, and you know exactly how it's going to end. But it's not that bad, for a Chinese drama. Especially since I was down with a flu and I wouldn't be able to stand something more mentally stimulating. I think it's a solid 7, right? (Poor cat, did they drug him during the filming?)
This was ok but his "cold director" persona made it hard to relate to him. The ML and FL had zero chemistry probably…
I thought that in this drama this cold director persona was much more childish and endearing. He let himself show his true emotions many times even from the very first episodes.
Very good drama! Really gripping and deep. I binge-watched it until the wee hours. A very good account on how trauma works and can really break you, making it difficult to function even as an adult. Their relationship was interesting, and the actors were all very good. The atmosphere in Motel California was very well captured. The coziness, Mr. Gwon and so on. The heartless cruelty of small-town people is also very realistic. There were some flaws, though. The back story was confusing, the way it was presented. WARNING. MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD I saw many people in the Timed Comments not understanding who had an affair with whom and whether mother Mia was pregnant (and with whom) when she eloped. The fact is that there were two different incidents: 1) when she was pregnant, and the husband couldn't come quickly to take her to the hospital because he was away, to help his childhood friend (nasty MIL) with some problem. One has to ask, is he the only person in the whole town that could take her to the hospital? 2) Here there's a gap. Presumably after this she became resentful and started seeing another man, taking their children with them (so presumably no sex, just having a nice time together). 3) Now the husband promises to go to California together with his family, but someone scams him out of his money. He beats the scammer, ends up in prison for the night. The wife, who had been waiting with her suitcase outside the motel (why outside?) gets very disillusioned, and decides to abandon her child and elope with the nice guy. Because presumably you cannot leave your husband taking your child with you (WHAT?). The little girl, who for some reason was afraid that her mother would leave, the night before had sabotaged the exhaust of the car. But which car? Presumably the mother would leave with her lover's car. So did the girl go to that car and sabotaged it with the stuffed doll? But they didn't leave with that one. Instead that car was taken by the wronged wife (the nasty MIL) to go and kill herself (which unfortunately didn't happen). Then whose car did the two fugitive lovers take? There were other inconsistencies. Really, in South Korea, you can adopt someone in 10 minutes? I made a quick search, and it seems it's complex as everywhere else. I also disliked the way they treated the question of animal welfare. The hubae wants to save lab dogs (who are notoriously tortured, even undergo vivisection), and our kind hero tells her that it's enough to make them as comfortable as possible. Then she repeats this conversation to her lover, who is mourning the sale of his favourite cow, who obviously is going to be slaughtered. She tells him that it's enough that she had a happy life when she was with him. So he will go on raising cattle as a job, knowing that he's raising them to be killed? It would have been more realistic and more honest to not give the characters this hypocritical kindness and concern towards animals, to say "Oh well, people must eat meat, that's the way it goes, and we cattle ranchers must also make a living, so there's nothing to be done", rather than serve us those BS excuses. I found the ending a lacking, too. Suddenly the bullies turn a new leaf and apologize en masse - what? Only because they saw she succeeded in her job? Or because her lover asked them to say this? The toxic elders are revealed to supposedly be kindly after all and we are told that basically she didn't know their good sides like volunteering at the old people's home? But when she visited that farmer to get his signature, he treated her horribly and wanted to make her kneel to even consider signing, and told her that everything bad in his life was her fault. Now they magically became nice because she thanked the elders for keeping her father company? The fate of the father is uncertain. I understand that they wanted to end on an upbeat note, but we heard her say (after talking to the doctors, obviously) "Turns out that he is very sick". Chemotherapy might work, might not work. It was one of the cases where we could have appreciated a "one year later" last scene. We hear her say to her lover "I'm not going anywhere, I'll stay by your side". Does this mean that she will stay in her hometown? And what kind of work can she do there? Yes, she will remodel the motel to make it into a care home. And then? What? She had co-created a company in Seoul, she had started to build a future. He was willing to do veterinary research in the capital. So what's the plan exactly? Stay with her father until he gets better and then leave? Stay there as a stay-at-home mom? We are left completely in the dark. Last but nto least, the two examples of the FL's work as a designer (her apartment and then the pool terrace decoration) were both horrible! Couldn't they hire a better designer for this? And her hair colour, why was it greenish blonde? That's another bad aesthetic choice on her part (since we have seen from the flashbacks that her original hair was pitch black).
I finally found all of them on kisskh.do
Instead, I found it on bilibili.tv.
If she doesn't earn money and doesn't pay the rent or contribute to expenses in any way, then she's a kept woman.
Yes, you didn't mention house work, but if she has any conscience, of course she will do her best to contribute in other ways in exchange for the man's contribution, i.e. doing the housework. But if she does nothing but provide him sex, how is she different than a prostitute?
What you just wrote could have said by my grandparents. When the man worked outside the house and brought the money while the woman stayed in the house cooking and cleaning and taking care of the kids, and be adoringly thankful if he brought her a present.
Women also love earning money and spending on their loved ones.
Speaking generally here, not only about this drama, but also of others that narrate stories from those eras...
While watching a drama we have to take into account the historical times, the context. We cannot project our own modern situation.
Korea after the war was in a really dire state of poverty. It's not a question of "poverty is fine". Poverty was there anyway, for the great majority of people. Those who had a strong family support system fared better than others who navigated the cruel world alone. Not "fine", but "better".
Although this is a Korean story, even European countries after the two World Wars were in a very bad situation as well. Many had lost their homes and their breadwinners, factories and offices had been bombed, even if you were a skilled professional or artisan people didn't have the money to pay you, Ruins all around and people went hungry.
Maybe the only way Americans can relate to it somehow is by thinking of the Great Depression.
And yes, of course, the position of women back then was much much worse than it is today. Even if you read Jane Austen's novels, you will see that those who didn't marry, even if they were educated, had a very bleak future. And this persisted, in various degrees, for much of the 20th century. Korea, China and Japan are, together with India and with the Muslim countries, some of the places where women are still second-tier citizens. Many Korean young women are rebelling, but others have internalized the dictates of patriarchy in a way that they seem "the normal thing to do" and they support it staunchly.
In fact all of us foreigners who love Korean dramas, feel conflicted when we see what Korea is really like. I also speak for myself. There are many things I love about this country/culture but there are also many things I hate. I would never raise a daughter there.
https://gulfnews.com/entertainment/kim-seon-ho-overwhelmed-by-cameo-response-to-when-life-gives-you-tangerines-i-joined-with-a-fluttering-heart-1.500080040
Plus a great number of things that are hard to believe and illogical. People in the Viki timed comments were calling them out all the time. How did he know she was there? How this happened? Why does she do this since it would have been much easier and more natural to do that? Absurd things to bring the plot that the writers want but were so contrived.
I meant to drop the show, but there was something in the female lead that kept drawing me in.
Zang Chun Xuan is a very expressive actress. Yes, she sometimes overdoes the pouting/cute thig, but she's good in the dramatic parts too, and there's never a boring moment with her.
At the end, you fall under her charm.
Yes, the drama is super cliché and old-fashioned, and you know exactly how it's going to end. But it's not that bad, for a Chinese drama. Especially since I was down with a flu and I wouldn't be able to stand something more mentally stimulating. I think it's a solid 7, right?
(Poor cat, did they drug him during the filming?)
A very good account on how trauma works and can really break you, making it difficult to function even as an adult. Their relationship was interesting, and the actors were all very good. The atmosphere in Motel California was very well captured. The coziness, Mr. Gwon and so on.
The heartless cruelty of small-town people is also very realistic.
There were some flaws, though. The back story was confusing, the way it was presented.
WARNING. MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD
I saw many people in the Timed Comments not understanding who had an affair with whom and whether mother Mia was pregnant (and with whom) when she eloped.
The fact is that there were two different incidents:
1) when she was pregnant, and the husband couldn't come quickly to take her to the hospital because he was away, to help his childhood friend (nasty MIL) with some problem.
One has to ask, is he the only person in the whole town that could take her to the hospital?
2) Here there's a gap. Presumably after this she became resentful and started seeing another man, taking their children with them (so presumably no sex, just having a nice time together).
3) Now the husband promises to go to California together with his family, but someone scams him out of his money. He beats the scammer, ends up in prison for the night. The wife, who had been waiting with her suitcase outside the motel (why outside?) gets very disillusioned, and decides to abandon her child and elope with the nice guy. Because presumably you cannot leave your husband taking your child with you (WHAT?). The little girl, who for some reason was afraid that her mother would leave, the night before had sabotaged the exhaust of the car.
But which car? Presumably the mother would leave with her lover's car. So did the girl go to that car and sabotaged it with the stuffed doll? But they didn't leave with that one. Instead that car was taken by the wronged wife (the nasty MIL) to go and kill herself (which unfortunately didn't happen). Then whose car did the two fugitive lovers take?
There were other inconsistencies. Really, in South Korea, you can adopt someone in 10 minutes? I made a quick search, and it seems it's complex as everywhere else.
I also disliked the way they treated the question of animal welfare. The hubae wants to save lab dogs (who are notoriously tortured, even undergo vivisection), and our kind hero tells her that it's enough to make them as comfortable as possible. Then she repeats this conversation to her lover, who is mourning the sale of his favourite cow, who obviously is going to be slaughtered. She tells him that it's enough that she had a happy life when she was with him. So he will go on raising cattle as a job, knowing that he's raising them to be killed?
It would have been more realistic and more honest to not give the characters this hypocritical kindness and concern towards animals, to say "Oh well, people must eat meat, that's the way it goes, and we cattle ranchers must also make a living, so there's nothing to be done", rather than serve us those BS excuses.
I found the ending a lacking, too. Suddenly the bullies turn a new leaf and apologize en masse - what? Only because they saw she succeeded in her job? Or because her lover asked them to say this? The toxic elders are revealed to supposedly be kindly after all and we are told that basically she didn't know their good sides like volunteering at the old people's home? But when she visited that farmer to get his signature, he treated her horribly and wanted to make her kneel to even consider signing, and told her that everything bad in his life was her fault. Now they magically became nice because she thanked the elders for keeping her father company?
The fate of the father is uncertain. I understand that they wanted to end on an upbeat note, but we heard her say (after talking to the doctors, obviously) "Turns out that he is very sick". Chemotherapy might work, might not work. It was one of the cases where we could have appreciated a "one year later" last scene.
We hear her say to her lover "I'm not going anywhere, I'll stay by your side". Does this mean that she will stay in her hometown? And what kind of work can she do there? Yes, she will remodel the motel to make it into a care home. And then? What? She had co-created a company in Seoul, she had started to build a future. He was willing to do veterinary research in the capital. So what's the plan exactly? Stay with her father until he gets better and then leave? Stay there as a stay-at-home mom? We are left completely in the dark.
Last but nto least, the two examples of the FL's work as a designer (her apartment and then the pool terrace decoration) were both horrible! Couldn't they hire a better designer for this?
And her hair colour, why was it greenish blonde? That's another bad aesthetic choice on her part (since we have seen from the flashbacks that her original hair was pitch black).