Vicki Pink

Trainees and celebs are cut off from family actually.

By those who managed Britney Spears ? Michael Jackson ? Amy Whinehouse ? Marylin Monroe ? I don't mean to be sarcastic, but in the west people are just better at hiding the mental damage it does to the stars. They go to "rehab". Well, some do die "mysteriously". All over the world the entertainment industry is a mess.

This is messed up. And too disturbing for me to even find the words to verbalize how I'm feeling rightnow. I used to enjoy KARA's music years ago. I'm totally disturbed and confused. But not surprised. The music and film industries are toxic and terrible environments to work. All that glitters is not gold.

8.3 / 10 is low ?

Wow, looks like a terrible show. Especially the part about the ending. This alone convinced me that it wasn't worth watching. That is the type of makjang that I seriously hate. It's always a bad idea to do this towards the end, I agree that it is disrespectful to the audience. UGH thanks for warning us!

MELTING ME SOFTLY - My heart skipped a beat. Chang Woookaaa!!! I MISSED YOU!!!!
When The Camellia Blooms - Because of Kang Ha Neul AND Gong Hyo Jin (it can't go wrong) !
People with Flaws - Why didn't you list Ahn Jae Hyun ? Come on !
War of Prosecutors - Miss Jung Ryeo Won is back :)
Emergency Lands of Love - HyunBin's last chance for me.
Stove League - Not into sports, but with watch, for Nam Goong-Min.

That's one disadvantage to being a celebrity. And they have to accept it.

They are professional actors, very good at giving a picture perfect image of their couple. I don't know one couple of actors who doesn't pull that off. Reality is ugly. At the end of the day they're no superhumans, they're just as flawed as the rest of us, only better dressed and groomed than most of us. That's about it.

Crush anybody who hurt her, how ? Her endorsements are gone, he divorced her not the other way around (if she's not the bad guy in the situation, her attitude right now doesn't help), she's stagnating in her career. Instead of letting a lawyer and a PR crew handle the situation she's acting stupid on social media. Not only is this hurting her reputation professionally, but even personally. Do you think any high caliber guy is gonna risk dealing with this, should they separate ? With the money she has she could have let professionals handle the whole thing. Divorce is really hard, she's not in a good emotional state, she should get off social media. She is portraying herself as a silly woman. Even if she may not be, initially, this is what she'll be remembered for.

I definitely won't read the essay (far too long), but I respect your tenacity. However I read your conclusion, and this again shows why we just won't ever agree. You come from a perspective that "everything is relative", which I find completely illogical because what is is what is whether you redefine it or not. The reality of WHAT LOVE IS won't change just because you call it a verb with a personal definition. Following this logic all verbs are redefinable. That's unrealistic and it opens doors to lying to self. The truth is that in life, there are some absolutes. One absolute is that human nature hasn't change since the beginning of time. Another absolute is that feelings fluctuate, so no matter how many people you date you WILL fall out of love with them at some point, affairs fail for a reason. This is why TRUE LOVE has been throughout history considered to be an ACTIVE CHOICE to commit (marriage) and care, endure, sacrifice for the greater good. Today's generation "falls in love" and falls flat on their face too. The worst outcomes to this thinking are noticeable in North America and western Europe. People have the most insane expectations and "definitions" of love and marriage. Everywhere else people tend to avoid this "Love is relative / Feelings matter first / Passion over Reason" idiotic and very modern mindset. Why ? Because our nature is not pretty. Our ability to "love like in the movies" is extremely limited and doesn't last. Those Facts always trump Fiction. Again, understanding Love based on reality and history, is more effective than relying on our own fantasies. And again gendered history as we have been taught, for women, is mixed with a bunch of lies, and lack of contextual knowledge. I know you think you know, but I used to be like you when I was around your age. Just like a 14 year old will also think they know everything, when they know less than you if they're a decade younger. Have a good one.

@lovecoutureflyy - You're still very young. It explains your perspective, I've been there so I hope you don't take it the wrong way. To the risk of sounding redundant, there are general outcomes in life when you make certain choices, and outliers. In general, if you get married with the mindset of the old days, the outcome is it will most likely last forever, like it used to.

Millenials are an instant gratification generation so no they're not as willing to work out issues as hard, it's the TINDER generation, the "Situationship / Friends with benefits" generation, the generation that will unfriend you on facebook and cut you off for different political views overnight, hence wanting to play marriage without the commitment, and expecting a house that was started from the roof (shacking up, having kids, etc) before the foundation (a commitment that bounds and protects a family legally) to stand. Statistics show, it doesn't work. Order matters. 10 years is NOTHING when it comes to a lifetime commitment contract. It is average, it is a young marriage.

" In the beginning, marriage wasn't about love at all. To put it plainly, it was a transaction. " -- Welcome to reality. This is nothing new. The truth about a long lasting marriage has NEVER been about "LOVE" i.e. the Hollywood / Hallyu / Romance novels definition of it (passion, obsession, unrealistic crazy sex etc). The essence of marriage will always be the same. Real marriage is to this day, a transaction, and a partnership. Some factors may differ, but the nature remains the same. And marriage is more stable in Asia and Eastern Europe (except celebs) because they are LUCID about the reality of marriage and again HUMAN NATURE. This is why arranged marriage (i.e. selection based on common values) work better in general, and it has nothing to do with forced marriage. Nothing has changed but the weather and those who lose at this commitment are those who "marry for love" with no use of REASON. He looks good, she's hot. Talk to married people who have been married over 10 years, and love each other by choice, they'll teach more than two "free spirits" moving in together, marrying 5 years later, then wondering why they got divorced 4 years into the marriage. House started from the roof. My grandma was loved deeply, but she used REASON to make her choice, and she and my grandpa learned to love each other.

As I stated in my previous post, LOVE - the TRUE ONE, is a CHOICE made after vetting values compatibility, not fluctuating feelings or a rush of hormones, that's the fickle definition of love concocted by entertainment, that formula ruins life and families. Because it distorts your perception of reality. I may love dramas, but I live in reality. We got it wrong today. Less stigma doesn't make it better. There's less stigma on AIDS than 20 years ago, doesn't mean AIDS is something to take less seriously. Less stigma on out of wedlock pregnancies, doesn't mean the consequences aren't worse for women (we lose in life, and legally).

"Many didn't stay with their significant others because of love, but because they didn't have any other options." -- Nope, this is always the argument to explain why women stayed married (the party of the old days with "no option"), but it's more complex and a lot of distortions are being promoted. Women in my grandma's time worked, my grandma worked two jobs too then built her career when all her kids were old enough, and less professional options didn't mean ZERO. How come Cleopatra ran a nation long before feminism, if women never had any other option ? There's literature on true history of women and the lie neo-feminism promotes, I suggest you read a few books on the subject. Also people didn't have the mindset to get married to divorce so they had to be WISER in their choices too. Not everything from the past was bad, women had less professional options but were way more protected legally along with their children. Ask divorced single moms if their lives are better. My co-worker yesterday burst into tears because she's going through a divorce that she wanted, and has a child. She used that divorce option but can't get over it. Even MEN suffer from the consequences of choosing divorce. THIS ARTICLE is about a man divorcing, just like Song Song. I have a close friend whose husband divorced her, he is depressed and sinking. Men and women suffer for choosing to divorce IN MOST CASES. This is what mainstream media won't tell, but real life paints a different picture. We are being sold something that is not the ticket to freedom it is promoted to be.

DIVORCE is useless unless you face cheating or abuse. DIVORCE IS A TRAUMA - for children, spouses, and their respective families - not an "option to use when we're no longer in love". That's immature thinking. Nobody quits their job when they don't enjoy it, if the goal is is to BUILD A CAREER. You're supposed to KNOW there are going to be seasons when you will hate your job, and get over it.

"the idea of marriage continues to change for each generation" -- Ideas don't change reality. Ideas of sexuality change all the time. The outcome of unwanted pregnancies and STDs, and an inability for the vast majority of "free people" to sustain a stable long lasting relationship, won't evaporate if sex is not used in a proper context at a proper time. So "ideas" are not what we should be looking for, but the true purpose and nature of whatever we study, cause those 2 things won't change no matter how much the ideas and eras change. The NATURE of marriage hasn't change, most of the world gets it. A certain part of the globe wants to redefine it. But redefining an apple calling it an orange will not change the NATURE of the apple.

"I noticed how you highlighted family, and that is definitely something I notice that affects other people, especially Koreans, who come from a collectivist culture." -- family affects everyone. I'm from western Europe and of course it's just as crazy as the US. We are social beings in nature, collectivist cultures are the majority and are closer to the reality of human nature than individualistic ones (which are VERY NEW in human history, and have failed as far as societal and familial stability is concerned).

"The 'true love' of the past, in my opinion, was endurance because there really wasn't an escape route. " -- And also because people thought differently and more long term. Human nature doesn't change just because we have dramas to binge watch. If you don't endure, you don't get to create a home and strong family unit for a lifetime, this life is not a movie. LIFE IS HARD, AND THAT INCLUDES MARRIAGE. There are gonna be loveless years, heartbreak, frustration, hate, tears and whatnot. Mutual respect and a willingness to ENDURE and work it out, are essential to hope for a long lasting union, cause "the feeling of love" will fluctuate, inevitably. And even if you marry someone you "looove", those obsessive feelings last but 2-3 years. What is left once "the feels" are gone ? No solid foundation, no solid marriage. This is the real world, sorry to be harsh.

She's speaking generalities. The bulk of people married 20+ years don't get divorced. That is extra rare. Older generations were raised to select a life partner very differently. All those divorces left and right happen with people married 5 to 10 years at best, often less than 5. I see your point but it's important to note that while there is no guarantee, there are guidelines to follow to be better equipped to make it last. TV and magazines won't teach you that, mentors who have made it past 20 years and of course have a healthy respectful relationship will.

Younger generations haven't been taught how to select a life partner, the truth about the hard work of marriage, that you marry into a FAMILY, realistic expectations, non-negotiables / healthy standards, how to think in terms of life partnership which is the goal of marriage, and not in terms of "being married until times get rough" (except abuse and cheatings) since conflict will never leave human relationships. Very few millenials are told the truth that some seasons in the marriage YOU WILL fall out of love with your spouse. You will wake up not loving them. Because feelings fluctuate. True Love is a choice expressed through consistent actions, not a quest for "the feels".

DISCLAIMER : I'm not a fan of the guy, I actually admire the actress. So no, no oppa worship here.

I tend to be pro-women but let's be fair on this one, Gu Hye Sun was dead wrong. Dirty laundry is NOT to be washed in public. She was just so bitter she decided to sabotage his career. The one who is being abandoned is not necessarily the bad guy (we can't know unless we know the story) but in this case Gu Hye Sun's attitude speaks volumes about her character. At least SongSong had enough class not to head to social media to slander each other. It makes her look weak and mean. I had a friend like this, when her couple had issues, she would run to social media to bash her fiancee at the time. They got married and he is now miserable and tired. People who act like that are trouble makers and tend to be controlling.

As for how gender plays a role in perception when it comes to divorce (read some comments), this is not the 1920s, Korea is not nearly as misogynistic as it is portrayed to be. It is far more protective of women than America, or many western European countries. In fact, in 2012 they elected a WOMAN as president, and none of their male presidents refer to women the way Trump does. Women are their own worst enemies in Korea. Also, men divorcing is just as much of a taboo because they're considered unable to sustain a family and therefore not men enough, whether they're being divorced or filing for divorce. Hence Ahn JAe Hyun losing more endorsements than his own wife. As much as I love supporting women, victimhood needs to stop. As far as I'm concerned, Gu Hye Sun looks bad now because of herself.

That was the point. She was cast aside precisely because she was ugly, boys mocked her precisely BECAUSE she was UGLY. Hence her face not even being shown to us. A face only a dad could love, a face even her mom disliked so much she supported her daughter's choice. That was the message behind not showing her face. The reaction of people around her proved that her ugliness wasn't just her perception but a fact. They took an extreme to address something the average person going plastic can't relate to.

I have korean friends who regretted going under the knife, as nobody in the street was doing a weird face or avoiding them, or mocking them when they walked outside before the surgery. They realized too late their self-image was distorted, their face had zero problem to begin with. It would be better to address the ridiculousness of mass distorted perception of normal, and its source than to focus on how personally one feels when it's an epidemic. People feel monstrous because they have been programmed to, it is more than just "personal" when everybody wants to look the same and sees unnatural beauty as "better" not just for themselves (personal) but for everyone else (universal). It's a national disaster. Just like eating disorders, by analogy, in all developed countries. It's more than merely personal, societies are being brainwashed into seeing abnormal behavior around food (counting calories, weighing oneself weekly, ignoring hunger signals "cause my doctor said so with his/her meal plan") as the norm. That's all I was addressing.

Husband material (totally rational and unbiased kyaahahahahh)... but I still think he is LOL.

Thanks :)

You should mark this one as a spoiler, please.

Super weird, but super interesting. I've just started it and not reading any comment yet. Just wanted to share, seeing Seo In guk in such a role is soooo impressive. I had no clue he had it in him to play such a role. So far, so good.

I was surprised you gave it a 6 until I saw the ratings for the music. I dropped that drama cause I got annoyed from the beginning. Thanks for your honesty.

Could you please say that again ? "Oh but oppa is innocent until proven guilty" (though they don't give the girls the same benefit of the doubt) to "oh but his music is good, I'm sure it's a misunderstanding"... I mean, it doesn't stop. I wrote in another post here, Korea had a female president not too long ago - millions of men voted for her, so all this "misogyny is male" talk is blown out of proportions. Both genders do it, and believe it or not the k-women far far more. They hinder their own progress, not much the guys.

As far as those two, who was right and who was wrong, we may never know. Those who divorce are not necessarily the victims. Sometimes they are just fickle. So SJK divorcing says nothing about who was the bigger problem. Something to keep in mind.