Vicki Pink

Oh well I see your point but Brangelina is a bad example. He cheated on his wife with Jolie, being from the older generation I followed the debacle, he was 110% married and living with his wife when their affair started. All people could say was "Jolie is prettier" and "Oh Aniston is selfish", as if her husband couldn't possibly know her mindset, and nobody called George Clooney selfish for not wanting kids.. Any form of disagreement, children included, is not a reason to give a "pass" to cheating. Otherwise why even begin an exclusive relationship, and claim commitment "for better or worse"? If that was the other way around, society would have crucified Aniston and called her a whore, oh but Brad is legit. How hypocritical. I didn't feel the slightest amount of sadness when Brangelina split. That was well deserved karma.

You'd be surprised the amount of arranged marriages in this business.

"It makes me happy I don't know why" - This is EXACTLY what I was thinking and you worded it so well. The drama made me happy. I watched it within a week to 10 days, and I'm generally a turtle when it comes to completing dramas. I enjoyed your review!

"the ideal cliche romcom" You summed it up PERFECTLY.

One of the best romcoms I've seen to date, as a drama fan "veteran". Is it perfect ? Nope. Is it enjoyable and entertaining ? Absolutely.

@Faith, agreed. Those things are hard to forgive. I wasn't too fond of him because of this, but it's been so long. I have moved on, partly because he didn't "insist" on body shaming women over and over year after year, unlike many who actually don't care due to their status as men in society (Trump for instance). Can you imagine if someone dug up the stupid thoughts and things we said / posted 6 freaking years ago ? I chose to give him the benefit of the doubt. People can mature and learn when they choose to, hopefully he did, and got lectured by some ajuhmma relative. If he had to apologize then, he and his company felt the heat. His apology wasn't convincing but it's unrealistic to think he was going to be "a changed man" a couple of days after being (rightfully) dragged for his blatant disrespect. Nobody changes such sentiments over night. But hopefully, he grew up with time.

If he still thinks like this, sooner or later, it will transpire and backfire. Including in his love life (that is the penalty of woman-hating). I have no doubt that whether he has changed or not will be reflected at some point in his future interviews. Guys who are hardcore jerks can't help themselves. They have to display their ignorance. Time will tell. But I chose to give him a second chance. I don't think it's fair to hold someone's past against them, UNLESS they keep making the same mistakes unapologetically, which doesn't seem to be his case.

It is mostly women. I mean we're talking about a country that had a female president not to long ago, so while misogyny exists in Korea, it's not "worse" than in western countries it is just expressed differently. K-women have a lot of disadvantages, but they also have advantages that we don't have. Most of the misogyny is perpetrated by the women. And I would say most of the misandry is from men themselves. The attractive ones CANNOT get along with people of their own gender. It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman. Same sex "friends" envy them. Happens everywhere but it is taken to another extreme in SK. It's a cultural thing, It's a highly competitive and far too image-obsessed society.

Now when it comes to relationships, it is harsher on the women, and while guys can be unfair, I find the women to be worse. And it pains me to say this. In fact SJK had no problem marrying a woman with "that many exes", but many female fans couldn't believe this. Oh why didn't he choose a fairly attractive 27 year old girl who never even kissed and held hands before ? Korean guys date older girls also pretty easily but the women "can't accept" it instead of cheering her up. Meanwhile they complain about the obsession society has with women's looks and age. It is very complex, but the girls sabotage their own progress.

They would never bash a male k-celeb with that many exes. And we all know many of them are freaks. Do we need to list the recent sex scandals ? Ok. Let me stop.

It's a drama.

Divorce is scandalous especially for female... celebs. But for the commoners, divorce is just as much of a shame for men in Korea and Asia as a whole. Divorced men are perceived as pariahs that couldn't lead and provide for a family.

@kkkdrama, agreed! And unfortunately it is the female fans locally who do this. These women are brought down by other women. It's a shame.

Yes but I think she meant, not the majority of them. You both seem to put faith in celebrity couples, listing a few exceptions won't change the rule. Show business is not a circle that values marriage at all. Many get married because it looks good to society, doesn't mean they take those vows seriously, they obviously don't.

Everyone looks wrinkly and saggy by 50, looks fade away fast. As much as I love dramas, reality hits hard. There's nothing wrong with dating someone you find yourself compatible with who happens to be attractive (they need love too), but beauty is not the end all be all to life. It can be extremely tricky because it blinds us to red flags. Putting that short lived stuff on a pedestal is a recipe for disaster. I used to be into very handsome men (TV material), until I dated a couple of them and found out the hard way that they're not "special" at all. Many of them are difficult people precisely because they get away with so much. I was brainwashed by the media. I admit it. But reality NEVER lies. Now I borderline have an aversion to good looking men. Celebrities have chaotic love lives and somehow people STILL believe beauty is the key to "a fairy tale marriage". Oh what a world we live in. Maybe we should take notes from this failure.

I didn't even see it in DOTS...

But although "scandalous" in Asia they seem pretty common too on Hallyu unfortunately. There's something healthy about finding it scandalous in a way I think. It shows that people still take marriage quite seriously.

Oh, well said. It's a hard process. Divorce is actually traumatic, and anyone who thinks it's easy just because the media makes it look that way, probably never saw a friend or relative go through one. It can completely destroy a life and someone's sense of self, even when everything looks neat on the surface. Divorce is promoted as a "ticket to freedom", and that may be the case if abuse was involved, but that remains the exception and not the rule. It's very painful and a deep wound in a family, that deeply affects not only the spouses, but their siblings, parents and children.

@CherryBunny - definitely see your point. It's just that some subjects are so touchy and serious that things can quickly escalate. So I was a bit worried about the communication between you both. But I do see your point and understand the importance of respect. Much love!

CherryBunny - I don't think Ugly Duckling had bad intentions in stating this. I hope you guys won't be too harsh on her/him. Maybe also as someone who likes her it can be hard for her/him to accept. That said, I understand UD's perspective if she/he was not aware of any specific detail when she wrote this a few hours ago (Ceki stated they reported hanging). Sometimes the media report things that don't make complete sense so it's not bad to remain a bit skeptical at first. I don't question this report but I have questioned a suicide report or two in the past, because of many contradictions.

That said, thank you MDL for letting us know and my condolences to her family. I thought she was extremely talented (though I was never a fan) and truly enjoyed her in Who are you School 2015. She's unfortunately part of the long list of late K-celebs who committed suicide. I am shocked but not surprised.

Sorry for sounding like a perv... but I can't handle the level of sexiness of KJK's lips. I can't even focus on his whole face, I keep catching myself staring at those lips. JKJ is one lucky actress!

@RueXie Thanks for sharing!!!