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iI don't think everybody wants Granny to turn away JH but to be fair to TK. with all the atrocities that JH have done to YD/TK, not eevryone is happy that JH is all forgiven because he is a Gong. TK is a Gong although he is adopted and should be treated as a Gong and not giving privilige and goodwill to JH because he is bloodline. He had done a lot of hurt to TK/YD and he should at least atone for those sins and not just be forgiven because he is family

I forgot to link: Family Law and Family Behaviour
https://iussp.org/sites/default/files/IUSSP%20Family%20Law%20and%20Family%20Behavior%20Moon%20and%20Choe-paper-final%20version%2820%20October%202020%29.pdf

From reading Korean civil laws, in the past ( prior to 2005) the husband ( who has a legitimate wife) can bring an illegitimate child ( by a mistress/concubine) and the wife has no choice but raise this illegitimate child as her own. there are changes in Korean civil law because it discriminated children born out of wedlock from the mother.

even with the changes post 2005 Korean Civil laws. when the child is born, the first thing to do is identification of the father and if there is no father then the child gets the mothers surname ( This is the case of YD adopting YD's surname). If the father acknowledged the illegitimate child, then this illegitimate child can adopt his father's surname and he can still bring home the child to his legal wife.

So in short, a man could bring his illegitimate child to her legal wife to raise.

My theory, JH is fraternal twin of TK, born by Inok, who was abducted when he was a child and brought home to Strawberry ( nun's mother; if this arc of the story is true, not fake). JH is not the son of Strawberry. The father ( JH/TK's father) brought home JH to Strawberry and was raised by Strawberry so, JH is a half-brother of the nun, thus JH is not a Gong and twin of TK. LOL

Also it is possible, ( the writer forgot all the clues from earlier episodes of twin storyline). JH is the son of the husband of Strawberry , so JH is still half brother to the nun, not related to the Gong.

Or The husband of Strawberry also impregnate Inok so TK and JH are half brothers. Strawberry's legitimate daughter is the nun . it aligns with the narrative that TK/JH/nun's father is a playboy and promiscuous.

If I remember it right, I do not think he is DS (YD Uncle's son). From previous episodes Hee said that he cheated on DS when they were together and got pregnant. But this writer sometimes forgets what he wrote in earlier episode (i.e. years that TK was adopted Gongs; it kept changing ) and so it might still possible

I think JH is trying all his options in claiming paternity of HN.

TK is trying to do the right things, he plan to adopt HN after one year of marriage.

https://www.thekoreanlawblog.com/2020/07/korean-common-law-marriage-korea.html

actually TK can claim that HN was his child because the child was born within 300 days after termination of their marriage

Article 844 (Presumption as Husband's Child)
(1) A child conceived by a wife during the marriage shall be presumed to be the child of the wife's husband.
(2) A child born after two hundred days from the day when the marriage was formed or born within three hundred days from the day when the matrimonial relation was terminated, shall be presumed to have been conceived during the marriage.

even if they have not been officially registered their marriage, they can claim de-facto marriage ( time is not important)

Does Korea have Common Law Marriage?: Korean Common Law Marriage (De Facto Marriage) Basics
While the concept of a Korean Common Law Marriage (since Korea has no concept of a Common Law) does not exist, Korea has a similar law than the laws, in the States, often referred to as Common Law marriage. FYI – few U.S. States recognize common law marriage.

Korean Common Law Marriage
In Korea, the concept of Common Law Marriage is referred to as De Facto Marriage. In Korea, all “legal marriages” are marriages that are registered at the local town office or recognized via marriage

abroad (comity). The De Facto Marriage is a limited exception to this “legal marriage” concept. The following is a basic explanation of the major relevant aspects of Korea’s De Facto Marriage Law.

Korean Common Law Marriage (De Facto Marriage in Korea) Situations
A De Facto Marriage is recognized by a Korean Court, typically, in three different basic situations:

The couple has publicized, announced or otherwise outwardly showed their relationship is akin to a marriage;
The couple had a formal public wedding ceremony; or
The couple lived together as a married couple.
Korean De facto Marriage Test
To establish a De Facto Marriage the couples must:
1. Both intend for the relationship to be akin to marriage; and
2. Live as a married couple.

The aforementioned situations, typically satisfy a court. In recent years, the amount of time of the De Facto marriage is irrelevant if intent is established and the couple lived together as a married couple. Unlike, in many States, the time period one lives with another spouse is, often, irrelevant.

De Facto Marriage “Divorce”
The recognition of a court that a De Facto Marriage exits grants to the spouses of this marriage protections similar to that of legally married couples – with one major caveat. A spouse in a De Facto Marriage may not claim division of property after the death of the other spouse. However, prior to death the spouse may file a lawsuit for a division of family assets and claim damages for pain and suffering (consolation money) caused by the other spouse in the de facto marriage.

But JH can sue JH for fraud.

https://askkorealaw.com/2017/11/17/child/

I am not a lawyer but researching civil laws in South Korea

In order for JH to claim paternity he had 2 options
1. he should report himself to be father in Korean local government
2. filing a paternity suit
you can read it here

Establishment of Paternity under Korean Law
In case of unmarried couples, the birth father has no parental rights and obligations until his paternity is established in Korea. That can be done in 2 ways. One is to report himself as the father with the Korean local government. And the other one is filing a paternity suit.

Determination of Child Care Issues
When the parental relationship is established, the unmarried couple needs to agree on child care issues such as child custody, visitation, and child support. The same goes for the couple divorcing in South Korea. When it is hard to reach an agreement, the matters will be heard and decided by the judge per the party’s filing



a suit with the Korean family court.

How do the Korean Courts Decide Who Gets Child Custody?
The Korean judges consider and review various factors in making the decision of child custody. The rule of thumb is the best interest of the child.

In Korea, it is very hard for the father to be awarded custody when the child is very young. The mother’s consent or history of child abuse, abandonment, mental illness are required for the father to have the child custody.

When the child grows, the chances that the father takes the custody right gets bigger. Then the parties should actively demonstrate to the judge how he or she can provide a better atmosphere for the child.

In this regard, financial capacity is not a decisive factor. That is because the financial aspect of the child’s care is supplemented by the child support by the non-custodial part/

it also needs consent from the natural parents ( if JH can establish his parentage) , unless JH fails to perform his parental duties ; attributable to himself. i.e., neglect

and attributes of adoptive parents i.e., TK's motives ,YD and TK competence as parents

Correct, adoption of HN can be done after the 3 years of marriage between TK/YD

Provided, That this shall not apply where either of the husband and wife who have been married for at least one year or more makes the full adoption of the other spouse's child as his/her one

you can read it here:
Civil Law of South Korea on full adoption

Article 908-2 (Requisites, etc. for Full Adoption)
(1) Any person who intends to make the full adoption of a child shall make a request to the Family Court for such full adoption upon meeting all of the following requirements:
1. The adoption shall be made jointly by the husband and wife who have been married for at least three years: Provided, That this shall not apply where either of the husband and wife who have been married for at least one year or more makes the full adoption of the other spouse's child as his/her one;
2. A child to be fully adopted shall be a minor;
3. Consent to such adoption shall be obtained from the natural parents of a child to be fully adopted: Provided, That the same shall not apply, if the parents are unable to give consent due to the declaration of the loss of parental authority, unknown whereabouts of the parents or by any other cause;
4. If a child to be fully adopted is at least 13 years of age, the adoption shall be permitted with the consent of the child's legal representative;
5. If a child to be fully adopted is under the age of 13, the child's legal representative shall permit the adoption on behalf of the child.
(2) The Family Court may accept the claim made under paragraph (1) even without the consent paragraph (1) 3 or 4 or the permission paragraph (1) 5 in any of the following circumstances. In such cases, the Family Court shall examine the person entitled to consent or permission:
1. Where the legal representative refuses to give consent or permission without any just ground: Provided, That if the legal representative is a person of parental authority, he/she shall have any cause referred to in subparagraph 2 or 3;
2. Where the natural parents have failed to perform the duty to foster the child or to exercise the visitation right for at least three years due to a cause attributable to themselves;
3. Where the natural parents have abused or deserted the child or otherwise have severely impaired the welfare of the child.
(3) The Family Court may reject the request made under paragraph (1) if such full adoption is deemed inappropriate for the welfare of the child to be adopted, taking into consideration the situation of the child's fostering, the motives of such full adoption, the prospective adoptive parents’ competence for fostering the child, and other circumstances.
[This Article Wholly Amended on Feb. 10, 2012]

It infuriates me when men gives excuses that they can be a father when all they did was a sperm donor.

It also infuriates me that they can be called a father when they literally told the woman that she should abort their child. It was indirect at first but JH told YD again in TK.s office that TK should perform the procedure. If YD was weak and did not endure, she could have done the abortion but she did not and now the father (JH)came back and said, I want you and my baby.

To refute your points
1. having multiple partner carries the higher risk of contracting STD. This is a basic information in sexual education. At episode 1, JH bought new underwear for SJ and it was in the bed. This implies that they had intimate relationship. And because he was using protection does not excuse that he was cheating on YD. It is a complete betrayal of trust.

2. You can reject someone and break up and not be cruel about it. SJ was so cruel when he broke up with him calling him easy and she does not like him anymore because he was too easy. This is not a sign of maturity, but a brat who was lashing out to TK because of grandmother. She can still break up with him or even discuss things with him but what did SJ did, was to insult him which has a long lasting effect on TK.

3.SJ knew that TK was not willing to marry her. when you re-watch the episode when SJ was trying to fit her wedding dress, TK told her that she should marry another person, But SJ blackmailed him saying that he does have a choice about this marriage,, because no one will believe his (TK) word in his family Remember the scene at the annex of TK's house when SJ told him that he cannot backed out. SJ deserves to be humiliated ( I actually rejoice when it happened), She (SJ) is a liar, manipulative and vindictive.

see above for 4.

of course, you are entitled for your opinion, but it is the privilege of being a man where there is gender inequality where even men who abuses women are given the utmost privilige and right because they are thje sperm donor

was JH lying about being an orphan or his adoptive mother whom texted him? The voice is a little older, so probably not an ex girlfriend that JH probably jilted

JH said his mother was dead and he even swear on her grave. I cant remember what episode but earlier episodes.

I don't know if someone has noticed that YD's mother told SJ's father that her husband cheated on her . They were talking in the park ( in episode 38). is this related to Jay is a doppelganger to DW, YD's brother.

What rights does IO to "deliver" YD and HN to JH. JH is a domestic abuser. It can happened in real life that homicide can happened to a partner in DV and it is not uncommon. Does she(IO) take responsibility for it? I do not know what the writer is thinking about the scene, but she is taking this scenario so lightly when people die of homicide due to DV. This is just to increase the angst in the drama.
=https://www.missionaustralia.com.au/domestic-and-family-violence-statistics#:~:text=Domestic%20and%20family%20violence%20in%20Australia%20statistics&text=On%20average%2C%20one%20woman%20every,a%20current%20or%20former%20partner.

In fact, most these characters are domestic abusers, they are all emotionally manipulative. and we can see the product of emotional abuse i.e. TK. He was the victim of DV that happened in the Gong's family.

https://www.courts.qld.gov.au/going-to-court/domestic-violence/what-is-domestic-violence

I think you are right. The writers have been hinting that BN is strawberry. The granddaughter of BN (SK) have been wearing strawberry motif clothing since the ealier episodes.

Rewatching from start of the drama (with FFW of some scenes) I do not understand the family of YD, the brother DW said that he wants to throw the baby away, wants her to have an abortion and pressuring her with time to get rid of the baby immediately. I am of Asian heritage and I cannot undertand why a very personal and private matters like having an abortion is being decided by family members. I will get so angry if my brothers and/or sisters tell me what to do with my own body ( even if it destoys my life). I do not know much about Korean culture, is it normal or because it is drama?

My guess is that JH will sue for parental rights which requires them to do DNA testing. And I will throw out there but some secret will be revealed that are lurking in the background i.e. TK/JH heritage. It might aldo reveal the identity of Strawberry ( YD is the daughter of Strawberry i.e, BN)

I do not think it is possible.

Establishment of Paternity under Korean Law
In case of unmarried couples, the birth father has no parental rights and obligations until his paternity is established in Korea. That can be done in 2 ways. One is to report himself as the father with the Korean local


government. And the other one is filing a a paternity suit.










How do the Korean Courts Decide Who Gets Child Custody?
The Korean judges consider and review various factors in making the decision of child custody. The rule of thumb is the best interest of the child.

In Korea, it is very hard for the father to be awarded custody when the child is very young. The mother’s consent or history of child abuse, abandonment, mental illness are required for the father to have the child custody.

When the child grows, the chances that the father takes the custody right gets bigger. Then the parties should actively demonstrate to the judge how he or she can provide a better atmosphere for the child.

In this regard, financial capacity is not a decisive factor. That is because the financial aspect of the child’s care is supplemented by the child support by the non-custodial parent

You can read it here: https://askkorealaw.com/2017/11/17/child/