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your theory may still be correct ( JH/TK sharing the same parentage; fraternal twins?), but the writer is running out of time. he had introduced another big conflict, possible kidnapping of HN.

The writer/director has a lot of loose ends that he need to address (Hee/DS/CM&SoJ storyline, YM/SW/SG and mother SS arc, and SJ/Jang Ho arc.

Is SJ's redemption arc finished ? ( I FF'ed most of her scenes. LOL . With a few scenes where she was remorseful and she is forgiven for all the
hurt/chaos that she caused together with JH.

I have read a lot of comments regarding forgiveness of the sins of JH (he can change his mind about his change of heart regarding HN, ( he should not asked YD to abort HN) because he is human after all.

I know the characterization of YD had become weaker every episode (now she is reduced to being so passive, other people are doing the talking for her) but what if she was a lot more weaker during the earlier episode of the series. What if she aborted the HN because even her family was asking her to do it ( abortion). Then HN is not in the story (then there is no drama LOL). It is like killing somebody and was so remorseful but he is gone, no amount of guilt can make someone alive.

What I am saying is that there are acts that cannot be easily forgiven
(like asking the mother to get an abortion or kill a baby, it is the decision of the mother alone, not anybody else especially because it is a very private matter in which the mother will suffer the consequences of her actions. This article shows that there is overall decline in mental health of women who are pressured to have an abortion by family/friends and partners.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9981219/

We have been discussing JH's parentage since the middle of the series and we cam out with different theories ( if people are interested, there is a discussion above the comments "Who is Kim Joon Ha, the only character who is unrelated to the 3 major families?)

The writer may have change the plot, to appease netizens ( who are mostly women) who were howling about the sudden twists and turns. I don't think he was intending to gave the audience a shock factor, he is just a man of his culture with the rise of antifeminism in South Korea among men. But he was unready for the backlash , with most international audience howling in protest about the characterization of JH ( and the favouritism that the writer have given this character). He is now at a lost how to salvage his progressive storyline that the writer/director enticed the audience.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/03/1135162927/women-feminism-south-korea-sexism-protest-haeil-yoon

II discussed this in the earlier episode. I don't agree with BN and DW (YD's family) the way they handle YD's pregnancy. I also voice my disagreement with what rights have your family on your body ( can they ask for you to get an abortion ). Apparently there is, according to some of the commenters here who have Asian heritage.

It is because of an entrenched beliefs, a combination of filial piety and patriarchal beliefs of inferiority of women ( in general) more entrenched in South Korea and other Asian countries. I am not saying that Western society does have patriarchal beliefs but it is more muted.

They are not demanding custody though, they have visitation rights (HN visits or they visit). Compared to JH who claimed to be the father, he is DEMANDING custody. That's the difference.

I also said in one of my comments that DS ( YD's Uncle) is the only one who is quite supportive of YD. That's the reason why DS was the one that YD called when she gave birth to HN.

Some of the commenter's were saying at that time that YD was horrible, not informing her other family, I am not saying that YD was
correct, but YD only felt safe with DS). They are all horrible and I agree.

WOW. Good acting by RSR who played Juwon. I was so impressed with the crying scene.

I will reiterate, JH is abuser period so I used the word abuser because HE IS. No one is proposing half and half custody because JH is a JERK, and everybody is clamoring for him to go away because if they are like me, I do not want my child to be near a man who can influence my child in a bad way

Well if YD have listened to JH, then there is no baby HN. that is what I mean when I say that figuratively speaking JH does not have a child. He should be begging for YD to at least give him visitation not DEMANDING custody.

This is my perspective. and I also have issues with this writer and the director who takes social issues lightly. If you read some of my past ( buried in the 16000 comments).

I have issues with the writer/director when they created a scene where Inok ( TK's mother) "delivered" YD to JH. You don't deliver a woman to a man who emotionally abused her. Inok does not have that right but in this drama, it was alright.

better understand domestic violence or intimate partner violence. You may find JH not as jerk, but he displays all the red flags of an man who have issues about power and control ( coercive control).

https://dfvbenchbook.aija.org.au/terminology/coercive-control/

I don't think that it is love of HN that JH wants custody. If you watch the drama in its entirety, he wants the custody of HN ( and live with YD as a family), because he does want to lose to TK, it is because of his pride, and selfish wants/need. His ego was hurt.

Children who witness violence are also victims of domestic abuse, not only the wife or the partner ( in this YD). It is called child abuse .

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2002/1201/p2052.html

I don't think YD and TK are selfish. They are protecting HN from JH. You should read the articles that I linked to better understaqnd

Your belief is very patriarchal in nature. we have a long way to go in this world, people have so much entrenched archaic beliefs and it saddens me.

I disagree. Figuratively speaking, JH does not have a child, it was aborted on the first -trimester ( first 12 weeks of pregnancy). he asked YD to abort the child not once but twice, and that/s the reason why YD shackled up with TK, to protect her child ( and the reason why she left TK ) when JH came back from the States and creating mayhem with SJ. I don't think it is the best interest of the child.

Children who grew up in abusive relationship have long lasting effect on the lives of those children.
https://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/domestic-violence/effects-domestic-violence-children
Just because he (JH)was a sperm donor that he had all the right in the world to be father. JH is a domestic abuser. he might not hurt physically YD (yet) but emotional abuse is just or much more hurtful than physical abuse.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7683637/#:~:text=1996).-,Emotional%20abuse%20may%20be%20the%20most%20damaging%20form%20of%20maltreatment,2013).

Its true that accept and love children even if they are adopted but if it creates havoc on the
lives on those around him (JH), then he is better off somewhere. Plus he does not like joint custody, he wants the full custody of HN, plus he also wants YD as a bundle.

the date on the article is June 17,2023, give and take a week when it written then the episodes are 23-25. episodes 23 is when YD/TK first date? episode 24 are in the art museum and episodes 25 is when TK was forced to golf with JH and JH/TK had a fight.

that is what I was thinking about the redemption arc of JH. A little attrition from JH, and everything will be okay. Just like SJ, what did TK said to her when they were in front of the elevator. "are you happy now because everything that you wanted is happening" and she is a changed woman.

I think the writer forgot the earlier episodes that she will not buck down whatever was happening. Insult, begging, and sane conversation will not deter SJ. This is poor character development and redemption arc

Characters Se-jin and Joon-ha, despite being involved in infidelity, are portrayed in a way that surprisingly evokes sympathy from the audience.

This is from this article https://desis.live/the-real-has-come-is-the-right-blend-of-fun-whacky-and-emo/.

is this what the actor Jung Eui Jae had talked about, about sympathising with the character of JH. I think the writers/director need their head examine because they are failing. The audience hate JH and SJ and will not evoke sympathy from the audience. Not from my end.

this the reason why I was asking if there is an overall change of arc in the character development of JH. The actor said we can sympathise with him if we watch till the end. I don't see sympathy for him from the audience just overall hate for the character.

thank you. just finished the episode. I watched it in kdramahood,

I actually like this episode. It tugged my heart with the scenes of TK having pictures with his mom, BN being impulsive ( again) acting without thinking ( to confront TK's parents and grandmother for giving him blessings being taken out of the family's register), later embracing TK and giving him the blessings even if she disagreed with his decision, TK being drunk and saying his last goodbye to his family ( even if they were toxic) and sleeping in grandma's room and grandma besieged by guilt and have to confront JH about giving up raising HN.

I don't know how the writer will redeem JH, being selfish, manipulative, embolden ( asking so much favour from the Gong's family) when he is not even a blood relative. He is using grandma's guilt to drive away TK from the Gongs when he is not even a Gong. Did the writer change the overall arc of JH character. The actor told the audience that we can sympathize with him if we watch to the end.

There are only 4 episodes left. I cannot seem to see the slow development of Jerk JH to a pitiful JH. He is still a jerk up to episode 46. In order for JH's character to have a believable redemption arc, the writer should have began plotting his redemption arc. Or is it the same redemption arc as TK's mother, an embrace from the whole family will do .LOL

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