May I ask why this matters? Clearly they don't fit into neat boxes, which is true of just about any gay couple.…
Then why not just imagine it how you want instead of needing to know? It's funny that there are questions that are misogynist to ask, but when it comes to men, nothing is out of bounds. Again, not an attack, but can you imagine casually asking a woman you don't know "Do you prefer vaginal sex or taking it up the ass?"
I think maybe people are mistakenly equating top and bottom with a gender identity, when it's just a preference for a sexual role that has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the person's personality or even the relationship dynamic.
agreed, it completely lost its way with episode 6, they just gave up with every single thing that was being set…
There are so many talented writers in the world, but somehow productions have a very difficult time finding them. I wonder if what they do is look for a manga, novel, or whatever that has a lot of views, then decide to adapt it. Sometimes that can work, but usually it doesn't because they are totally different media. There are things you can do in a manwha that would be XXX rated in live action, and without the darker or racier moments, all you have is dull sludge. I'm not necessarily referring to this story, but more often than not, BL novel adaptations leave quite a bit to be desired when filmed live-action.
That's a really deep question. I'd say it's progress. There is a tendency to be more sensitive about the failings…
Oh, I was only referring to the bi character. The female character is as regressive as it gets.
As far as cheating goes, it's part of life - almost everyone cheats at some point, and pretending it doesn't commonly happen or that it's an unforgivable moral failing doesn't change that or make it an unsuitable topic fora drama. (Whether or not it's forgivable is dependent on circumstances.)
Wait, Sixteen Candles? What rape scene? That was practically G-Rated. I can't watch that entire video right now because I'm at work but I did sneak the beginning of it, and it seems to miss the point that the nerds' misogyny is considered unacceptable and creepy in-show and the female character is the only one that has it all together, and over time the non-joke characters develop for the better due to her influence.
This seems to be to be part of a trend in younger generations to expect everyone to start out perfect - it's one of the reasons movies have become so dreary - there are no character arcs. People like to criticize the 80s, but that was a period in which powerful women started to appear in the media and where a lot of the rights that everyone takes for granted now were fought for and won.
This started out as the KBL airing that I liked the least and ended up being the only one I liked. I guess I also liked All the Liquors, but that was more shallow and less memorable. This is to me proof that long length does absolutely nothing for a series - it's all dependent on how good the storytelling is - you can tell a well-developed story in 15 minutes, or 18 hours - and you can tell a dull story in 15 minutes and a rushed on in 18 hours.
The pacing of this was excellent, it said everything it needed to, and it ended.
I feel like the same reason that it had potential to be interesting made it tank. What I mean is that the story…
I sort of agree, but 3.5 hours is longer than The Godfather. It's really plenty of time to explore a lot of themes very deeply, and I think the problem is more that the author had no idea how to advance the plot and just let it wander in a static way for 6 episodes..
Guys I know this a lil bit too late to ask, but who's the top or the bottom? I'am kinda confuse woth this too,…
May I ask why this matters? Clearly they don't fit into neat boxes, which is true of just about any gay couple. That's not an attack - I'm just curious why you want to know.
I was enjoying this series, but I totally lost interest in Ep 6 and dropped it. I'm getting to that stage where life is too short to watch series that I don't enjoy.
The issue is that the story is totally static. Archery, blah, blah, extremely unpleasant malicious homophobe blah blah, repressed longing, blah, etc. etc. What's the point? What does this have to say, other than Korean actors have implausibly perfect skin?
KBL is even worse than Thai at getting lost along the way - the latter tend to lose energy along the way, but KBLs start off with a bang and then never go anywhere at all. This was a disappointment.
Is it a sign of progress in the (Japan) movie industry if a character (Ina Shuhei) is bi if he is also this strange…
That's a really deep question.
I'd say it's progress. There is a tendency to be more sensitive about the failings of characters that belong to minorities and fear that the negative representation harms that group, but this is really only a problem if that group is always portrayed that way. In the case of Asian drama, screaching trans characters that aggressively paw at every half-attractive man that passes them is a good example of offensive stereotyping, but I don't think one promiscuous bi character is a problem.
There was a period about 20-30 years ago when gay characters in the US were all more perfect than the love child of Jesus and Buddha, and as a result they were all cripplingly boring and could serve no dramatic purpose other than to advise friends, and were inevitably written out. Finally we reached a point where gay characters could be villains or complicated again, and thank God. The Perfect Gay was a corrective against older stereotypes that made all gay men slimy treacherous perverts, but IMO either extreme is damaging.
Christ on a fecking bike.Do you have any idea what pressure and emotional blackmail gay people often go throuh…
It's actually hard to get through life as a gay person in a conservative society without something like this happening. In high school I was assigned a girlfriend by society, and I ended up engineering my One True Love getting her best friend as his girlfriend, and although we were too repressed to have sex, we were definitely the only true relationship in the mix. No doubt that was confusing and painful for the girls (especially his gf, who he ended up marrying for 10 years), but it's not something you do out of malice or selfishness - it's not always even 100% conscious, and it's 100% fear-based. You don't just face ridicule, you're risking total societal rejection, including by your own family, as well as serious and potentially fatal violence, loss of your job, and the more or less total destruction of your life.
In any case, like you said, cheating happens. even with couples that love each other. Welcome to life. Setting up a red line is self-defeating. If you've built a loving relationship with someone and share a life together, will you throw it all away because he strayed? The answer is "it depends", and that's why it's a common element in drama. It's complicated and it's part of life. I don't get why anyone is watching romantic dramas if all they can tolerate is people farting rainbows and unicorns.
What is the most annoying word in the English language? I would say "gonna", but that's not a word so it doesn't count. But whenever anyone writes it, Satan weeps tears of joy.
The most annoying word in English is a tie: "toxic" and "toxicity".
This series is terrible. I'm a little confused, because there were many points at which someone could have detected how bad it is: upon reading the novel, the screenplay, the total lack of enthusiasm of the actors, the wig... did nobody notice the project derailing like a train hauling toxic chemicals? (It's not an annoying word when used properly.)_
It makes sense that a group of friends are all gay couples. It's everything else that makes no sesne. I'd like to blame the acting on the director, because many of these actors have put in spectacular performances in the past, like Rossi who plays Day's brother and the guy in the white outfit. But with a story and dialog this terrible, I'm not sure anyone could do better.
Is this good? I loved the first scene, then it went on to an endless drinking scene that I just couldn't pay attention to, got bored and gave up. It felt like it was about drunk girls looking to get laid.
I keep wondering why they like each other when they should be busy getting into prof's pants.
To be fair, I'd f@#$ my dog too if he looked like Choco (actually, it's really that he's being f@#$ed by his dog, not the other way around, which is slightly less disturbing, because dogs can't really consent. Although if he has dog "equipment", that can be a bit problemmatic, especially if it's size is proportionate to his new body. That was a weird thing to think about, but I blame you).
I think maybe people are mistakenly equating top and bottom with a gender identity, when it's just a preference for a sexual role that has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the person's personality or even the relationship dynamic.
As far as cheating goes, it's part of life - almost everyone cheats at some point, and pretending it doesn't commonly happen or that it's an unforgivable moral failing doesn't change that or make it an unsuitable topic fora drama. (Whether or not it's forgivable is dependent on circumstances.)
Wait, Sixteen Candles? What rape scene? That was practically G-Rated. I can't watch that entire video right now because I'm at work but I did sneak the beginning of it, and it seems to miss the point that the nerds' misogyny is considered unacceptable and creepy in-show and the female character is the only one that has it all together, and over time the non-joke characters develop for the better due to her influence.
This seems to be to be part of a trend in younger generations to expect everyone to start out perfect - it's one of the reasons movies have become so dreary - there are no character arcs. People like to criticize the 80s, but that was a period in which powerful women started to appear in the media and where a lot of the rights that everyone takes for granted now were fought for and won.
The pacing of this was excellent, it said everything it needed to, and it ended.
The issue is that the story is totally static. Archery, blah, blah, extremely unpleasant malicious homophobe blah blah, repressed longing, blah, etc. etc. What's the point? What does this have to say, other than Korean actors have implausibly perfect skin?
KBL is even worse than Thai at getting lost along the way - the latter tend to lose energy along the way, but KBLs start off with a bang and then never go anywhere at all. This was a disappointment.
I'd say it's progress. There is a tendency to be more sensitive about the failings of characters that belong to minorities and fear that the negative representation harms that group, but this is really only a problem if that group is always portrayed that way. In the case of Asian drama, screaching trans characters that aggressively paw at every half-attractive man that passes them is a good example of offensive stereotyping, but I don't think one promiscuous bi character is a problem.
There was a period about 20-30 years ago when gay characters in the US were all more perfect than the love child of Jesus and Buddha, and as a result they were all cripplingly boring and could serve no dramatic purpose other than to advise friends, and were inevitably written out. Finally we reached a point where gay characters could be villains or complicated again, and thank God. The Perfect Gay was a corrective against older stereotypes that made all gay men slimy treacherous perverts, but IMO either extreme is damaging.
In any case, like you said, cheating happens. even with couples that love each other. Welcome to life. Setting up a red line is self-defeating. If you've built a loving relationship with someone and share a life together, will you throw it all away because he strayed? The answer is "it depends", and that's why it's a common element in drama. It's complicated and it's part of life. I don't get why anyone is watching romantic dramas if all they can tolerate is people farting rainbows and unicorns.
The most annoying word in English is a tie: "toxic" and "toxicity".
This series is terrible. I'm a little confused, because there were many points at which someone could have detected how bad it is: upon reading the novel, the screenplay, the total lack of enthusiasm of the actors, the wig... did nobody notice the project derailing like a train hauling toxic chemicals? (It's not an annoying word when used properly.)_